Jordan Peterson vs Cathy Newman

Jordan Peterson vs Cathy Newman

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Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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richie99 said:
hairyben said:
NJH said:
Anyone see last week's episode of the Orville that aired here in the UK on Fox? (The Orville is a comical version of Star Trek)

In this episode they came upon a planet just like 21st century earth except that the entire legal and political system had been replaced by a form of social media and Jeremy Kyle TV show style popularity contest, things which got voted up by the mass of people become declared the truth. People that got voted down to 10 million down votes lobotomised, and this could be for the most inane daft things like causing offence to a public statue or not giving up your seat for a pregnant woman (if you handled your tour of Jeremy Kyle type TV shows badly which the law decreed you had to do to convince the public your not a bad person).

It was a terrifyingly dystopian vision of a world which horrifically many are trying to bring about in this world today!
I'm noticing a bit of really not on-message tv/film sneaking past the hyper-left-worship that is the Hollywood etc media industry, interestingly many of those in the firing line aren't really picking up on just how darkly critical some of this stuff is
There is a disturbing episode of Black Mirror were everyone is constantly rated by everyone they interact with. The points accumulated translate into a combination wealth/class system which limits your social, job, purchasing choices. The story is based around a woman who flips. Very disturbing even by black mirror standards.
How about by Chinese standards?

http://uk.businessinsider.com/china-social-credit-...

Goaty Bill 2

3,415 posts

120 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Otherwise known as 'Gaming'.
Charming little social control philosophy.

Game your populace into behaving.

Oh wait. That isn't exactly original is it?


Ari

19,348 posts

216 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Murph7355 said:
Ari said:
Quite incredibly, she learned nothing from her interview - she's still banging the 'it's all so unfair to women' drum.



The responses however... biggrin

It doesn't matter how much bad stuff is seeded from the internet, THIS is what it was invented for.

Absolutely priceless.

Is it really her account? If it is, she's rapidly running out of "benefit of the doubt" with regards to how bright she is!
I’m afraid it is...

Dindoit

1,645 posts

95 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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chrispmartha

15,501 posts

130 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Dindoit said:
Here’s your Jordan Peterson again

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/96146152...
“We don’t know what the rules are”

Whos we? And a simple rule is don’t sexually abuse women in the workplace, even if they do dare to wear lipstick

V8mate

Original Poster:

45,899 posts

190 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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chrispmartha said:
Dindoit said:
Here’s your Jordan Peterson again

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/96146152...
“We don’t know what the rules are”

Whos we? And a simple rule is don’t sexually abuse women in the workplace, even if they do dare to wear lipstick
it was so obviously a heavily edited clip to make him look stupid... pointless to discuss it.

Goaty Bill 2

3,415 posts

120 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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V8mate said:
chrispmartha said:
Dindoit said:
Here’s your Jordan Peterson again

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/96146152...
“We don’t know what the rules are”

Whos we? And a simple rule is don’t sexually abuse women in the workplace, even if they do dare to wear lipstick
it was so obviously a heavily edited clip to make him look stupid... pointless to discuss it.
Is this the video? Jordan Peterson Is Canada's Most Infamous Intellectual (HBO)
9 minutes
The one in the tweet won't play on my system.


V8mate

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45,899 posts

190 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Goaty Bill 2 said:
V8mate said:
chrispmartha said:
Dindoit said:
Here’s your Jordan Peterson again

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/96146152...
“We don’t know what the rules are”

Whos we? And a simple rule is don’t sexually abuse women in the workplace, even if they do dare to wear lipstick
it was so obviously a heavily edited clip to make him look stupid... pointless to discuss it.
Is this the video? Jordan Peterson Is Canada's Most Infamous Intellectual (HBO)
9 minutes
The one in the tweet won't play on my system.
Actually, I apologise. Seeing Goaty's post of the full video, it's not an edited piece in the Tweet. I was just struck by the staccato nature of his responses.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

109 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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So it just makes him look stupid then?

V8mate

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45,899 posts

190 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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ZedLeg said:
So it just makes him look stupid then?
No, I didn't persist with watching the Twitter clip properly because it didn't seem like his natural delivery.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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chrispmartha said:
“We don’t know what the rules are”

Whos we? And a simple rule is don’t sexually abuse women in the workplace, even if they do dare to wear lipstick
THere are some dipsticks in the responses to that guy, claisscalliberal.

Goaty Bill 2

3,415 posts

120 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Halb said:
chrispmartha said:
“We don’t know what the rules are”

Whos we? And a simple rule is don’t sexually abuse women in the workplace, even if they do dare to wear lipstick
THere are some dipsticks in the responses to that guy, claisscalliberal.
Not too hard to find where he [claisscalliberal] deliberately misquotes Peterson to make up his own sentence, "Women are hypocrites if they wear makeup to work and think they shouldn't be sexually harassed".

In fact a number of supporters of claisscalliberal, seem to have the same problem.

So what you're saying is... <fill in with preferred self-serving misinterpretation>

and the cycle repeats...

And for balance, some of Peterson's supporters, they would also do well to practice articulating their thoughts in a more private environment before entering the tw@ttersphere.


Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Goaty Bill 2]Not too hard to find where he [claisscalliberal said:
deliberately misquotes Peterson to make up his own sentence, "Women are hypocrites if they wear makeup to work and think they shouldn't be sexually harassed".
In fact a number of supporters of claisscalliberal, seem to have the same problem.
So what you're saying is... <fill in with preferred self-serving misinterpretation>
and the cycle repeats...
And for balance, some of Peterson's supporters, they would also do well to practice articulating their thoughts in a more private environment before entering the tw@ttersphere.
I only looked at the top few. I find twiter bothersome to navigate, and it tend to put me off it, not as easy as FB.

Aphex

2,160 posts

201 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Vice turned into mad the lefty liberal junk site like buzzfeed did years ago

oilbethere

908 posts

82 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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chrispmartha said:
Dindoit said:
Here’s your Jordan Peterson again

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/96146152...
“We don’t know what the rules are”

Whos we? And a simple rule is don’t sexually abuse women in the workplace, even if they do dare to wear lipstick
So what you are saying is that you think it's ok to abuse women.

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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oilbethere said:
chrispmartha said:
Dindoit said:
Here’s your Jordan Peterson again

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/96146152...
“We don’t know what the rules are”

Whos we? And a simple rule is don’t sexually abuse women in the workplace, even if they do dare to wear lipstick
So what you are saying is that you think it's ok to abuse women.
hehe Poor lobsters are trying to make a storm in a teacup.

chrispmartha

15,501 posts

130 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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hyphen said:
oilbethere said:
chrispmartha said:
Dindoit said:
Here’s your Jordan Peterson again

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/96146152...
“We don’t know what the rules are”

Whos we? And a simple rule is don’t sexually abuse women in the workplace, even if they do dare to wear lipstick
So what you are saying is that you think it's ok to abuse women.
hehe Poor lobsters are trying to make a storm in a teacup.
Nope, don’t get either of those two posts?

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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chrispmartha said:
hyphen said:
oilbethere said:
chrispmartha said:
Dindoit said:
Here’s your Jordan Peterson again

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/96146152...
“We don’t know what the rules are”

Whos we? And a simple rule is don’t sexually abuse women in the workplace, even if they do dare to wear lipstick
So what you are saying is that you think it's ok to abuse women.
hehe Poor lobsters are trying to make a storm in a teacup.
Nope, don’t get either of those two posts?
You need to watch the JP & CN interview in full.

oilbethere

908 posts

82 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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chrispmartha said:
hyphen said:
oilbethere said:
chrispmartha said:
Dindoit said:
Here’s your Jordan Peterson again

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/96146152...
“We don’t know what the rules are”

Whos we? And a simple rule is don’t sexually abuse women in the workplace, even if they do dare to wear lipstick
So what you are saying is that you think it's ok to abuse women.
hehe Poor lobsters are trying to make a storm in a teacup.
Nope, don’t get either of those two posts?
So what you are saying is that you are sexist?

Russian Troll Bot

24,990 posts

228 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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We like to use the word Cathy Newperson around here