45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 4)
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minimoog said:
Anybody wanting to know the nature and scope of the Russian interference in US politics described in the indictment should read this thread:
https://twitter.com/baratunde/status/9646079010788...
Good thread, or at least my bias agrees with everything Baratunde said so I think it's a good thread https://twitter.com/baratunde/status/9646079010788...
I've no doubt the Russians are well organised in exploiting vulnerabilities in our democracy, however before we can judge it's effectiveness we need to see metrics for how far their information spread, through which routes it spread and then compare against similar metrics for misinformation in mainstream media.
My hunch is that the Russians will have had some success in reinforcing preexisting biases but minimal influence beyond that. People's biases and their ability to challenge their own biases will remain 'made in America'.
Tartan Pixie said:
minimoog said:
Anybody wanting to know the nature and scope of the Russian interference in US politics described in the indictment should read this thread:
https://twitter.com/baratunde/status/9646079010788...
Good thread, or at least my bias agrees with everything Baratunde said so I think it's a good thread https://twitter.com/baratunde/status/9646079010788...
I've no doubt the Russians are well organised in exploiting vulnerabilities in our democracy, however before we can judge it's effectiveness we need to see metrics for how far their information spread, through which routes it spread and then compare against similar metrics for misinformation in mainstream media.
My hunch is that the Russians will have had some success in reinforcing preexisting biases but minimal influence beyond that. People's biases and their ability to challenge their own biases will remain 'made in America'.
Lots of Trump fans in Detroit
The stuff in the Baratunde twitter post is shocking, but it’s just too long and complicated for people who use Breitbart and Infowars as their main source of truth. That’s why it will have little or no effect on Trump’s core support.
Jader1973 said:
Apart from blaming the people who didn’t try hard enough to report the latest school shooter, he is now saying the maybe the FBI would have done something if they weren’t so busy with the Russia probe.
What an utter, utter scumbag.
the perpetrator WAS reported to FBI, they didn't react and they should be held accountableWhat an utter, utter scumbag.
the other part of his tweet is classic Trump so just ignore it
AreOut said:
Jader1973 said:
Apart from blaming the people who didn’t try hard enough to report the latest school shooter, he is now saying the maybe the FBI would have done something if they weren’t so busy with the Russia probe.
What an utter, utter scumbag.
the perpetrator WAS reported to FBI, they didn't react and they should be held accountableWhat an utter, utter scumbag.
the other part of his tweet is classic Trump so just ignore it
AreOut said:
the perpetrator WAS reported to FBI, they didn't react and they should be held accountable
What should the FBI have done? Trump specifically let people with mental problems hold guns. If they took his guns away it would be a breach of his goddam constitutional rights and they would have their asses sued off.Escapegoat said:
p1stonhead said:
‘Children died because I’m being investigated’
What an absolute piece of st.
Can't find that quote; where was it?What an absolute piece of st.
Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign - there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!
rscott said:
He just said they're spending too much time investigating collusion and not enough on the basics:-
Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign - there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!
Are you claiming the ENTIRE staff of the FBI are working on the Trump case?Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign - there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!
If so, I suggest you are gullible.
Eric Mc said:
rscott said:
He just said they're spending too much time investigating collusion and not enough on the basics:-
Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign - there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!
Are you claiming the ENTIRE staff of the FBI are working on the Trump case?Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign - there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!
If so, I suggest you are gullible.
Edited by p1stonhead on Sunday 18th February 14:14
Eric Mc said:
rscott said:
He just said they're spending too much time investigating collusion and not enough on the basics:-
Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign - there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!
Are you claiming the ENTIRE staff of the FBI are working on the Trump case?Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign - there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!
If so, I suggest you are gullible.
Would you like a parrot?
Trump is an idiot.
And, of course, there are lots of other law enforcement agencies in Florida and the US that also failed to act on the tip offs that were being given to them about Cruz. In the US, law enforcement is primarily a state (and even county) based system. As far as local investigations are concerned, the FBI can only get involved if they are invited in by the local law enforcement agencies.
I am pretty sure Trump has not got a single clue as to how the law works in the country of which he is President.
And, of course, there are lots of other law enforcement agencies in Florida and the US that also failed to act on the tip offs that were being given to them about Cruz. In the US, law enforcement is primarily a state (and even county) based system. As far as local investigations are concerned, the FBI can only get involved if they are invited in by the local law enforcement agencies.
I am pretty sure Trump has not got a single clue as to how the law works in the country of which he is President.
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