45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 4)
Discussion
frankenstein12 said:
What I find deeply troubling is CNN the mouthpiece of the Clintons involving themselves in this legal case to target an opposition media personality and by extension media house.
As to Cohen and dodgy dealings whatever happens happens.
You think Fox wouldn't do the same? As to Cohen and dodgy dealings whatever happens happens.
There are far more troubling aspects of this circus!!
bodhi said:
Sorry to disappoint you dear boy, but I am not a Trump supporter at all - I'm just not a hater. I just find the constant slating of him a bit tedious, as if you take away his Twitter account, the US isn't in a bad shape at all.
Always up for a discussion and despite what anyone thinks I'm not a trump hater, just fascinated by what I think will be one of those historic moments.So lets looks at your claims
The economy is growing - Trump inherited a very good economy from Obama. His tweets have had some disastrous effects on the stock market, but the tax cuts for companies have helped this.
Employment is up - Again Trump inherited a good economy and solid job growth figures, unemployment has stayed around it's 4.1% but the economy needs to create 75,000 to 100,000 jobs per month to keep up with growth in the working-age population. In general terms employment figures are slightly down on what was expected compared to the same times in previous years.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
Consumer confidence is high - True but then the US consumer is very materialistic. Unless in serious deficit they still borrow and spend.
Companies are bringing fortunes back onshore - Whilst there's plenty of team trump saying this, what company has actually done this?
They are talking of taxing companies heavily who hold money offshore, but I've not actually seen any company do this yet?
illegal immigration is down - There's no doubt Trumps racist rhetoric made the US an unattractive destination, border arrests were down significantly until april 2017, but have doubled again since then. The number of deportations has fallen significantly and there are still an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the US despite the increase in ICE raids.
and foreign policy has definitely taken a step in the right direction after some serious missteps under Obama.
What foreign policy has Trump actually managed to get right. Announcin g he was pulling out of Syria, encouraging Assad to use chemical weapons because he thought the US didn't care?
Pulling out of trade agreements, leaving China to fill the gap.
What policy has he got right?
Mueller investigation- I'm waiting to see how this turns out. If he finds evidence of collusion then impeach him - if he finds nothing, we know the leader of the free world is squeaky clean. He should probably find something soon however, as the Americans I work with are rapidly losing interest, apart from a couple of Californians still in the ravages of TDS.
It's not going to be he finds nothing - he already has.
13 Russians and 3 russian companies charged.
Flynn, Papadopolous, Rick Gates have pleaded guilty to making false statements about their contacts with Russians to investigators
Mannafort and Gates charged with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges and acting as a russian conduit for trump using their connections from the Ukraine. Gates has taken a plea deal
Alex van der Zwaan - Mannafort and Gates lawyer, pleaded guilty and was sentenced and is now a cooperating witness
Richard Pinedo pleaded guilts and is now a cooperating witness
Thats before we even get to Cohen, the money laundering, the NDA's. Mannaforts desperate attempts to hide incriminating docs away in a storage locker.
Thats just collusion. You could write a book on Trumps obstruction, the sackings, the constant calls to people who may/are witnesses against him etc
Oh and Bohdi - how many seats has he/the republicans lost this year in campaigns - especially those he got involved in?
A new York assembly seat last night which the GOP had held for over 4 decades is the latest.
They've just held Arizona, but that 21 point lead has dropped to 6 points. The GOP pumped huge amounts of money into this campaign after several recent losses.
Just the 40th legislative flip for Democrats since Trump’s inauguration.
A new York assembly seat last night which the GOP had held for over 4 decades is the latest.
They've just held Arizona, but that 21 point lead has dropped to 6 points. The GOP pumped huge amounts of money into this campaign after several recent losses.
Just the 40th legislative flip for Democrats since Trump’s inauguration.
Edited by Byker28i on Wednesday 25th April 09:10
Byker28i said:
Yesterday it was revealed that despite trump claiming he never spent a night in Moscow, when the kompromat was alleged to be made. He told this to Comey.
Flight records have revealed that Trump was there from Friday to Sunday, meaning he definitely spent the night, which means he directly lied to the FBI about an ongoing criminal investigation.
Thats the trouble with so many lies - it difficult to remember just which ones you've told...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-23...
Seth Abramson has a long thread on this
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/9885018674...
More to this - Politico have picked it up as have many other news agenciesFlight records have revealed that Trump was there from Friday to Sunday, meaning he definitely spent the night, which means he directly lied to the FBI about an ongoing criminal investigation.
Thats the trouble with so many lies - it difficult to remember just which ones you've told...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-23...
Seth Abramson has a long thread on this
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/9885018674...
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/23/trump-mo...
There's more witnesses saying Trump was there and was inviting women to his room
http://beta.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ex-miss-...
And another of the claims of trump is that the urination story can't be right because he's a germophobe, yet yesterday in plain view of cameras dusted dandruff off Macrons shoulder.
Edited by Byker28i on Wednesday 25th April 09:06
An interesting report of Ty Cobb talking loudly about the russian investigation whilst in a public airport
https://twitter.com/trumpanhator/status/9885613091...
https://twitter.com/trumpanhator/status/9885613091...
Byker28i said:
Gameface said:
The dandruff on Macron thing was beyond pathetic.
He's such a snide
.
Lets not forget trump says he's a germophobe, so that would be a very strange action?He's such a snide
.It was clearly an attempt to publicly belittle Macron, and he came out and said as much.
Trump did his stupid alpha male handshake with Macron previously.
He's such a weird man child.
Byker28i said:
Gameface said:
The dandruff on Macron thing was beyond pathetic.
He's such a snide.
Lets not forget trump says he's a germophobe, so that would be a very strange action?He's such a snide
.Donald Trump's unpleasant personal characteristics are almost beyond description. From what I recall, he was considered to be a crass joke 25 years ago. He certainly has stamina.
Ps. Trump is alethephobic, rather than germophobe, non?
frankenstein12 said:
What I find deeply troubling is CNN the mouthpiece of the Clintons involving themselves in this legal case to target an opposition media personality and by extension media house.
As to Cohen and dodgy dealings whatever happens happens.
Except it wasn't just CNN that intervened? And given Sean Hannity's comments on the case before his name was revealed was a huge conflict of interest that he hadn't declared to his viewers. As to Cohen and dodgy dealings whatever happens happens.
It's odd that you find it troubling that one news organisation would try to expose this conflict of interest, and not troubled about Sean Hannity's hiding his interest in the case when discussing the matter on the air.
bodhi said:
Mueller investigation- I'm waiting to see how this turns out. If he finds evidence of collusion then impeach him - if he finds nothing, we know the leader of the free world is squeaky clean.
That has to be a wind up, surely.No matter what Mueller finds, there is not one single aspect of Trumps life that is "squeaky clean"!
MC Bodge said:
Cringe-worthy and thoroughly inappropriate, as usual.
Donald Trump's unpleasant personal characteristics are almost beyond description. From what I recall, he was considered to be a crass joke 25 years ago. He certainly has stamina.
Ps. Trump is alethephobic, rather than germophobe, non?
He claimed the pee pee tape couldn't be true because he was a germophobe.Donald Trump's unpleasant personal characteristics are almost beyond description. From what I recall, he was considered to be a crass joke 25 years ago. He certainly has stamina.
Ps. Trump is alethephobic, rather than germophobe, non?
Mind you - he also claimed he wasn't there - didn't stay overnight, so it couldn't have happened
Schiller his security, claimed no women went to his room, but he was only outside for a short while
There's a few contestants/women have claimed he invited them to his room that night...
esxste said:
frankenstein12 said:
What I find deeply troubling is CNN the mouthpiece of the Clintons involving themselves in this legal case to target an opposition media personality and by extension media house.
As to Cohen and dodgy dealings whatever happens happens.
Except it wasn't just CNN that intervened? And given Sean Hannity's comments on the case before his name was revealed was a huge conflict of interest that he hadn't declared to his viewers. As to Cohen and dodgy dealings whatever happens happens.
It's odd that you find it troubling that one news organisation would try to expose this conflict of interest, and not troubled about Sean Hannity's hiding his interest in the case when discussing the matter on the air.
Perhaps thats what Cohens advice was, how to use fake names on shell companies, NDA's etc
Byker28i said:
How he hid his name behind shell companies for the house purchases, knowing they'd be embarressing if found out?
Perhaps thats what Cohens advice was, how to use fake names on shell companies, NDA's etc
Has anyone seen the Stormy Daniels NDA? I read a report stating that a LLC was one of the parties, which just sounds bizarre.Perhaps thats what Cohens advice was, how to use fake names on shell companies, NDA's etc
Europa1 said:
Byker28i said:
How he hid his name behind shell companies for the house purchases, knowing they'd be embarressing if found out?
Perhaps thats what Cohens advice was, how to use fake names on shell companies, NDA's etc
Has anyone seen the Stormy Daniels NDA? I read a report stating that a LLC was one of the parties, which just sounds bizarre.Perhaps thats what Cohens advice was, how to use fake names on shell companies, NDA's etc
http://media.phillyvoice.com/media/documents/storm...
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