45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 4)

[Byker28i]

andy_s said:

p1stonhead said:

Wow that dandruff thing is insane.

I think he has an Alpha Male Handbook from 1958 with a well thumbed section on 'Dominating the Stairs'.

“When the aging gorilla is confronted with the much more virile, new alpha-male, he shows submissiveness by grooming the alpha-male, but the gesture is actually a vain attempt by the old gorilla to humiliate his much younger rival.” — Jane Goodall

[esxste]

CypSIdders said:

That has to be a wind up, surely.

No matter what Mueller finds, there is not one single aspect of Trumps life that is "squeaky clean"!

Of course its a wind up. Muellers investigation has already uncovered wrong doing. Trump himself *might* not be involved, but plenty of people around him were.

[paua]

andy_s said:

p1stonhead said:

Wow that dandruff thing is insane.

I think he has an Alpha Male Handbook from 1958 with a well thumbed section on 'Dominating the Stairs'.

Hope he doesn't get to the chapter about hammering in frozen sausages.

[anonymous-user]

Byker28i said:

andy_s said:

p1stonhead said:

Wow that dandruff thing is insane.

I think he has an Alpha Male Handbook from 1958 with a well thumbed section on 'Dominating the Stairs'.

“When the aging gorilla is confronted with the much more virile, new alpha-male, he shows submissiveness by grooming the alpha-male, but the gesture is actually a vain attempt by the old gorilla to humiliate his much younger rival.” — Jane Goodall

Can you imagine if someone did that in your office or at a meeting?

I don’t mind the females at work removing a girls blonde hair from my shoulder or something quite affectionate, but nobody wants that fat old sweaty pervert rubbing them up.

First the handshake thing then making out he’s got dandruff, what next patting on the head or his bum?

[vonuber]

Why would a germophobe sleep with random women whilst using no protection.

[Lazermilk]

Byker28i said:

andy_s said:

p1stonhead said:

Wow that dandruff thing is insane.

I think he has an Alpha Male Handbook from 1958 with a well thumbed section on 'Dominating the Stairs'.

“When the aging gorilla is confronted with the much more virile, new alpha-male, he shows submissiveness by grooming the alpha-male, but the gesture is actually a vain attempt by the old gorilla to humiliate his much younger rival.” — Jane Goodall

Is he the missing link?

[Gameface]

To deliberately belittle someone in the eyes of millions like that, I'm surprised Macron didn't knock his hand away. He'd have been within his rights to. I bet he seething. And rightly so.

Does Trump believe we don't see through his smarmy act? It makes my skin crawl.

[Europa1]

Byker28i said:

You won't see the NDA, but plenty of court docs around - Essential Consultants LLC
http://media.phillyvoice.com/media/documents/storm...

Thanks. The NDA is Exhibit 1 to that document. From a quick read, it looks like the LLC was a party solely for the purpose of paying the US$130,000. The parties are cited as David Dennison [pseudonym for Trump] "and/or Essential Consultants LLC", which seems a bit sloppy, particularly as the NDA does not then go on to say how the "and/or" works in terms of the parties ability to enforce various provisions. Interestingly it also contains a clause stating that each party has taken legal advice in relation to the agreement and understands its meaning. As Cohen is claiming it's binding despite the fact that "David Dennison" did not sign it, does that mean that David Dennison took legal advice and is fully aware of the contents of the agreement?

[schmunk]

Gameface said:

To deliberately belittle someone in the eyes of millions like that, I'm surprised Macron didn't knock his hand away. He'd have been within his rights to. I bet he seething. And rightly so.

But he didn't, because he's calm and classy.

[schmunk]

paua said:

andy_s said:

p1stonhead said:

Wow that dandruff thing is insane.

I think he has an Alpha Male Handbook from 1958 with a well thumbed section on 'Dominating the Stairs'.

Hope he doesn't get to the chapter about hammering in frozen sausages.

...or the one on throwing bottles of Lucozade.

[Gameface]

schmunk said:

Gameface said:

To deliberately belittle someone in the eyes of millions like that, I'm surprised Macron didn't knock his hand away. He'd have been within his rights to. I bet he seething. And rightly so.

But he didn't, because he's calm and classy.

Certainly took admirable restraint.

Perhaps if it had been on French soil it might've been different.

[captain_cynic]

Gameface said:

To deliberately belittle someone in the eyes of millions like that, I'm surprised Macron didn't knock his hand away. He'd have been within his rights to. I bet he seething. And rightly so.

Does Trump believe we don't see through his smarmy act? It makes my skin crawl.

Oh Trump most certainly knows that most people think he's an absolute cretin... He also knows he can get away with it.

For now at least. Its always been an unwritten rule in politics that you never go after the last guy because you don't want the next guy to go after you but after Trump broke another unwritten rule, don't weaponise the police, he may not be afforded this courtesy by the next president (Cuomo, Delaney or possibly Biden).

Thats if he survives until Nov 2020.

[captain_cynic]

Gameface said:

schmunk said:

Gameface said:

To deliberately belittle someone in the eyes of millions like that, I'm surprised Macron didn't knock his hand away. He'd have been within his rights to. I bet he seething. And rightly so.

But he didn't, because he's calm and classy.

Certainly took admirable restraint.

Perhaps if it had been on French soil it might've been different.

Macron knew keeping his cool would make him more popular in Europe. He's nothing if not an astute politician.

As an aside, for a laugh my martial arts instructor taught us how to deal with a Trump style handshake. If Trump tries to pull you towards them forcefully just keep going and he wont be able to hold on. If you want to embarrass him, say hi to the VP like you intended to ignore him.

[Eric Mc]

Gameface said:

Certainly took admirable restraint.

Perhaps if it had been on French soil it might've been different.

It will just be filed away for future reference as and when needed.

[Gameface]

Eric Mc said:

Gameface said:

Certainly took admirable restraint.

Perhaps if it had been on French soil it might've been different.

It will just be filed away for future reference as and when needed.

Theres a long queue of those, I'd imagine...

[Byker28i]

Europa1 said:

Byker28i said:

You won't see the NDA, but plenty of court docs around - Essential Consultants LLC
http://media.phillyvoice.com/media/documents/storm...

Thanks. The NDA is Exhibit 1 to that document. From a quick read, it looks like the LLC was a party solely for the purpose of paying the US$130,000. The parties are cited as David Dennison [pseudonym for Trump] "and/or Essential Consultants LLC", which seems a bit sloppy, particularly as the NDA does not then go on to say how the "and/or" works in terms of the parties ability to enforce various provisions. Interestingly it also contains a clause stating that each party has taken legal advice in relation to the agreement and understands its meaning. As Cohen is claiming it's binding despite the fact that "David Dennison" did not sign it, does that mean that David Dennison took legal advice and is fully aware of the contents of the agreement?

The same NDA with the same names Cohen used for GOP deputy treasurer Elliott Broidy who paid $1.6m to a playboy model he got pregnant.

Throughout the document, Daniels is referred to by the pseudonym “Peggy Peterson” (or “PP”) and Trump is referred to as “David Dennison” (or “DD”), to minimize the odds that their true identities could be made public.
A separate side letter agreement, also attached in the lawsuit, specifies that PP is a pseudonym for Daniels. The original side letter also lists the true names of “David Dennison” and “EC, LLC,” but they are redacted in the version included in the lawsuit.

Avenatti's argument is that trump did not sign it, either as himself or as David Dennison. Instead, the agreement was initialed and signed by Essential Consulting. Indeed, portions of the contract that are labeled to be initialed by “DD” are instead initialed by Essential Consulting
“Mr. Trump … did not sign the agreement, thus rendering it legally null and void and of no consequence,” Avenatti writes in the complaint. He alleges that Trump “purposely did not sign the agreement so he could later, if need be, publicly disavow any knowledge of the Hush Agreement and Ms. Clifford.”

See: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/13/...


Edit: remember also that Karen McDougal, who claimed a 9-10 month affair with trump, is now free to tell her story after the Enquirer dropped it, shortly after Cohens office was raided as it's claimed Cohen had a hand in that catch and kill also
https://www.vox.com/2018/4/18/17254786/karen-mcdou...

Edited by Byker28i on Wednesday 25th April 12:21

[sugerbear]

Europa1 said:

Byker28i said:

You won't see the NDA, but plenty of court docs around - Essential Consultants LLC
http://media.phillyvoice.com/media/documents/storm...

Thanks. The NDA is Exhibit 1 to that document. From a quick read, it looks like the LLC was a party solely for the purpose of paying the US$130,000. The parties are cited as David Dennison [pseudonym for Trump] "and/or Essential Consultants LLC", which seems a bit sloppy, particularly as the NDA does not then go on to say how the "and/or" works in terms of the parties ability to enforce various provisions. Interestingly it also contains a clause stating that each party has taken legal advice in relation to the agreement and understands its meaning. As Cohen is claiming it's binding despite the fact that "David Dennison" did not sign it, does that mean that David Dennison took legal advice and is fully aware of the contents of the agreement?

DT has publicly denied knowledge of the agreement and payments that Cohen made. (His standard response appears to be deny, fake news, then deflect to Clinton/Obama). Michael Avenatti must have been elated that a key witness has opened his mouth instead of keeping it shut. If DT wasn't aware of the agreement that puts Cohen in jeopardy as he cant' enforce the deal (and raises questions of why the deal was made without the clients knowledge). Of course we know that DT is not being honest.

The National Enquirer has also held back from publishing damaging stories for both Trump and Weinstein. Now with Weinstein they could leverage him to get them photo shoots and access to film stars but with Trump you have to question what is in it for the paper other than influence and the ear of the president.

In other news I see DT he has thrown his physician under the bus this morning.

[Eric Mc]

Gameface said:

Theres a long queue of those, I'd imagine...

No doubt. Trump's next book (ghost written of course) will be "How To Make Enemies and Influence People".

[frankenstein12]

Countdown said:

frankenstein12 said:

What I find deeply troubling is CNN the mouthpiece of the Clintons involving themselves in this legal case to target an opposition media personality and by extension media house.

Why do you find CNN reporting the news “troubling”? Does having Trump et al’s lies being continually and repeatedly exposed make you feel uncomfortable?

What i am referring to is CNN's cult like determination to bring down Trump and anyone associated with him or who supports him.

In this case Hannity. CNN had their lawyers argue that Hannity should be made public as someone who had liaised with Cohen. Until their lawyer intervened the Judge was happy to keep his name sealed and in fact even Muellers council were reasonably happy to have his name sealed from public record.

CNN however had their lawyers come forward and argue successfully that Hannities name should be made public and dragged into it.

CNN and Fox both take shots at each other and in public so to speak thats fine imo if a bit childish but as far as I am concerned while they have grounds to argue that the Cohen suit is in the public interest and should be possible for them to report on I dont believe they had any right to set out to expose Hannity as being in contact with Cohen as he is a major rival of theirs as that is exactly what I believe their intent was.

They then also almost immediately started reporting that he should be fired or should resign. All seems very dirty to me.

As far as Trump is concerned I think a lot of what he has done or tried to do is good. I dont believe him to be racist at all. I do however believe he has broken a great many promises/ideals that he stated the biggest and most serious imo being his recent attacks on Syria which in turn has put me off him considerably.

Does he lie? Well yes often it seems. Did he collude with Russia? No i dont believe so but only time will tell and if he did then of course he should face the consequences as anyone else should.

As to the whataboutism.

I think it is EXTREMELY valid. If you really look into things there is a very nasty web of collusion all around the DNC Clinton etc. There is mountains of stuff going on and at every step it seems to be getting ignored/buried.

There was Hillaries Emails where she very clearly lied imo (as someone who has to go through security clearing and do regular refresher courses on information security and handling) for the wife of an ex president to claim she did not understand the security markings on documents or how to handle the information is a very clear lie.

There is also recently evidence that Hillary and her campaign and the DNC broke election funding laws and a case was put together and filed with the FEC who promptly did nothing with it even though it apparently shows misappropriation of millions of dollars in campaign funding to the extent a private group are now taking legal action against the FEC to get them to deal with it.

Etc etc.

[Shakermaker]

Someone on Twitter the other day mentioned that Trump has been using his personal mobile phone to make calls that are for "work" purposes more and more, rather than using the WH-issued mobile phone that he is meant to use for things like that.

Not seen it discussed further, just wondering if that was actually the case, or just speculation from a political journalist in the USA using "sources" badly?

If he hasn't done so - fine, no issue.

If he has done so - similar to Hillary and her emails, surely?