45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 4)

[anonymous-user]

frankenstein12 said:

See its posts like this one from Gregg and others on here like the ones with Trump in a dress etc which make me realise its almost pointless trying to engage in discussion on this forum as you are all so filled with rage and hatred towards Trump you have lost all sense of decency or perspective.

You are the same people who will attack his family or as in this case his "kids" and accuse them of being rock dumb.

I wish we were all as rock dumb as his kids we would all be a lot wealthier and more successful in life.

Its as ever interesting a typical tactic of liberals or anti Trumpers to launch vicious and petulant attacks on the friends and family of those they dislike.

Oooo-Kay.

Let’s just run that one through the prolixity filter.

Here we go.

“Because you called Trump’s kids rock dumb, your opinions of Trump are worthless”.

Leave aside the fact (for it is a fact) that Donald jnr is quite possibly dumber than a rock, and that Steve Bannon (dangerous, but certainly no idiot) shares the view that Ivanka is thick as they come. Just ignore those inconveniences for a second.

Do you see what’s wrong with the reasoning in your position?

I’m guessing that neither you nor coyft have done a great deal of your own research into Trump’s business life. Might be a good way to spend a few hours. Knock yerselves out.

[andy_s]

frankenstein12 said:

I wish we were all as rock dumb as his kids we would all be a lot wealthier and more successful in life.

Its as ever interesting a typical tactic of liberals or anti Trumpers to launch vicious and petulant attacks on the friends and family of those they dislike.

We'd be a lot wealthier if our parents were millionaires? Astute.

And please, labelling people who don't like Trump as 'liberals' is a bit old and patently not true. No wonder your comments don't get taken seriously, but then I don't think that's what you want anyway...

[RobDickinson]

According to republican principles it's your fault if you are poor or sick.

[frankenstein12]

Halb said:

Why does Clinton's name even get mentioned now? SHe lost and pretty much disappeared.

Dissapeared oh fk me thats funny. She is regularly in the news doing interviews etc whining about who was to blame for her losing the election.

Dissapeared wow thats funny.

[anonymous-user]

Here’s one for the resident Trump ball* washers to ponder overnight.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/attorney-michael-...

Stormy Daniels’ lawyer, Avenatti, trailed today on MSNBC the idea that the $1.6m that Cohen paid for an abortion for GOP donor Elliot Broidy was actually paid ... for Trump.

Now the religious right have given Trump a mulligan over him screwing a porn actress, and boasting of pussy grabbing and God knows what else, but abortion? That’s pretty much murder in their eyes. If there’s truth in thus we may find out whether his boast about being able to shoot someone in the middle of 5th Ave and not lose any support is true.

Sleep tight, ball washers!

*golf balls.

[frankenstein12]

Greg66 said:

frankenstein12 said:

See its posts like this one from Gregg and others on here like the ones with Trump in a dress etc which make me realise its almost pointless trying to engage in discussion on this forum as you are all so filled with rage and hatred towards Trump you have lost all sense of decency or perspective.

You are the same people who will attack his family or as in this case his "kids" and accuse them of being rock dumb.

I wish we were all as rock dumb as his kids we would all be a lot wealthier and more successful in life.

Its as ever interesting a typical tactic of liberals or anti Trumpers to launch vicious and petulant attacks on the friends and family of those they dislike.

Oooo-Kay.

Let’s just run that one through the prolixity filter.

Here we go.

“Because you called Trump’s kids rock dumb, your opinions of Trump are worthless”.

Leave aside the fact (for it is a fact) that Donald jnr is quite possibly dumber than a rock, and that Steve Bannon (dangerous, but certainly no idiot) shares the view that Ivanka is thick as they come. Just ignore those inconveniences for a second.

Do you see what’s wrong with the reasoning in your position?

I’m guessing that neither you nor coyft have done a great deal of your own research into Trump’s business life. Might be a good way to spend a few hours. Knock yerselves out.

I dont need to do any research to know to have the deceny to not attack someones family just because I dislike them as a person.

[Zod]

frankenstein12 said:

I dont need to do any research to know to have the deceny to not attack someones family just because I dislike them as a person.

Your comportment here suggests that you lack decency and judgement.

If your superiors saw your posting record, you would be in trouble.

Even if you just clean toilets.

[anonymous-user]

frankenstein12 said:

I dont need to do any research to know to have the deceny to not attack someones family just because I dislike them as a person.

coyft said:

Who gives a fk if he's got $500m or $5bn?

Why would I need to do any research into his business affairs? He's got a fking Boeing 757-200 private jet!

He has all the trappings of a billionaire, he lives the lifestyle of a billionaire, he owns his own golf courses, hotels and restaurants.

As far as I can see he has lived this life all of his life. Who gives a fk if he's got $500m or $5bn?

Thank you both. Neither of you disappointed.

Wilfully blind loyalty built on a solid bedrock of total ignorance. Touching. Unusual too.

Educate yourselves. You never know. You might enjoy it.

[anonymous-user]

coyft said:

Greg66 said:

Thank you both. Neither of you disappointed.

Wilfully blind loyalty built on a solid bedrock of total ignorance. Touching. Unusual too.

Educate yourselves. You never know. You might enjoy it.

You come across as such a tt.

He has a 757-200. Is that not successful enough for you?

He is a driven goal oriented individual and has been incredibly successful. That is an undeniable fact.

Live with it, suck it up, the man has achieved everything he's ever wanted to.

You genuinely know nothing about him, do you? Not a thing. And yet you worship him like he’s a God.

Bizarre. It’s like trying to talk to a flat earther.

Enjoy your stubborn ignorance. I guess it kind of suits you.

[Halb]

frankenstein12 said:

Halb said:

Why does Clinton's name even get mentioned now? SHe lost and pretty much disappeared.

Dissapeared oh fk me thats funny. She is regularly in the news doing interviews etc whining about who was to blame for her losing the election.

Dissapeared wow thats funny.

Trump is ubiquitous in the news, even UK news, Clinton is nowhere. Regardless, even if you feel she has not disappeared, she's old news.

[anonymous-user]

p1stonhead said:

Oh my word he actually called Fox and had a proper ranty meltdown. Imagine any other president even getting to ten percent of this level of mental on tv!

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/989479385983062...

That was really quite something. He actually sounds mentally ill, and about to have a breakdown.

CNN Sums it up better than I can. Worth a read:

Trump's 'Fox & Friends' rant was beyond unhinged - By Michael D'Antonio

It began with the hosts of "Fox & Friends" beaming at him through the camera, like parents besotted with a first child.

Then, obviously triggered by CNN's Town Hall with former FBI Director James Comey -- "I watched leaking, lying Comey last night. ... I hated to do it" — President Donald Trump launched into a disjointed rant that revealed his mind to be a frightening and chaotic place.

There, he is practically perfect and just about everyone is out to get him.

The hosts' smiles turned to sober looks of concern as a decompensating Trump lurched from one topic to the next.

Highlights included:

• That Comey has "been leaking for years. ... He did an illegal act and he said it himself in order to get a special counsel against me. ... He is guilty of crimes."

• His longtime "fixer" Michael Cohen, who was recently raided by the FBI, is invoking his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination in connection with an adult film star's lawsuit" because he's got other things, he's got businesses. ... But I'm not involved." Besides, Cohen only did "a tiny, tiny little fraction" of the legal work Trump needed.

• Investigations into Russian meddling in the 2016 election are a "witch hunt" that have placed a "phony cloud" over him.

• He deserves an "A-plus" grade thus far in his presidency.

• "You look at the corruption at the top of the FBI. It's a disgrace."

• Trump's nominee to run the Department of Veterans Affairs withdrew because Sen. Jon Tester, who revealed serious questions about his performance as White House physician, was motivated by politics.

• Trump's Justice Department, which oversees the most important probe, is filled with people "who shouldn't be there," and thus the President is "disappointed" in the department's performance.

• Trump failed to acknowledge his wife's birthday with a present because "I'm very busy to be running out looking for presents, OK?"

In roughly 20 minutes Trump aired his thoughts and feelings at a manic rate that reminded me of the comedian Robin Williams at his peak.

Hillary Clinton, CNN ("fake news") and Kanye West all got their mentions.

The difference, of course, is that Williams was a brilliantly funny man. The President wasn't trying to be funny at all. He was instead making a case for himself as a great leader besieged on all sides by terrible enemies.

Trump's paranoia, a lifelong trait that he has admitted is part of his makeup, was so evident in his monologue that it constitutes a case study in delusion.

At one point he noted, "I'm fighting a battle against a horrible group of deep-seated people."

At another he announced, "Look at others CNN, they will have a council of seven people and of the seven people everyone is against me. Where do they even find these people?"

As "Fox & Friends" co-host Brian Kilmeade then offered his own seemingly disconnected observation — "I'm not your doctor"-- he expressed what many viewers, including me, must have felt: Trump was on the verge of some sort of meltdown. He needed not an interviewer but an intervention.

Indeed, no medical degree is required to recognize that the President had gone off the rails. Jumping from topic to topic, he offered raw emotions, non sequiturs and florid exaggerations.

His VA nominee is deserving because he has a fine son at the US Naval Academy. The porn star he is alleged to have had sex with is "crazy Stormy Daniels."

A president's words matter, which is why every president in modern times has taken care to speak in a coherent and measured way so he could be understood. Some, such as George W. Bush, were chided for their occasional struggles with the English language. But their words never indicated they were unreliable or unhinged.

Trump sounded as if he wrote down a bunch of phrases on little scraps of paper, tossed them into a hat and then took them out, one by one, to shout out on live TV.

Trump's performance was a disturbing reflection of both his undisciplined mind, and his unprincipled character.

It was an abuse of his office, and of the American people who deserve much more than the sloppy, emotional, self-indulgent performer who seems to be pretending he's President.

Even the cheery hosts of "Fox & Friends" turned grim-faced as Trump ranted, and it was left to Kilmeade to put a stop to the babbling.

"We could talk all day but looks like you have a million things to do," he said, as if to remind Trump that he is President of the United States.

Trump took the hint and ended the performance, leaving the world to tremble at the madness.

[Wacky Racer]

My own view is I thought Trump was going to be a disaster and laughing stock as President.

I have been proved wrong, he is turning out to be a very good one, who has hardly put a foot wrong, yes he has a rather dubious past but what politician hasn't.

He is a brilliant and shrewd businessman and won't be pushed around by anyone.

Clinton who?

[anonymous-user]

coyft said:

Try to use your words.

[anonymous-user]

coyft said:

I tried that, now I can stop laughing at you.

Oh dear. Now you’re just making an even bigger fool of yourself.

[minimoog]

Looks like Trump Ballwashing Syndrome is a thing here on PH.

[andy_s]

Hare Psychopath Bingo:

pathological lying
glib and superficial charm
grandiose sense of self
need for stimulation
cunning and manipulative
lack of remorse or guilt
shallow emotional response
callousness and lack of empathy
parasitic lifestyle
poor behavioral controls
sexual promiscuity
early behavior problems
lack of realistic long-term goals
impulsivity
irresponsibility
failure to accept responsibility
many short-term marital relationships
juvenile delinquency
revocation of conditional release*
criminal versatility

For our Pro-Trump participants, the one to note is 'manipulative'; using a glib and superficial charm allied to pathological lying to manipulate people, like yourselves, to their own ends.

Now while many leaders in both industry and politics are somewhere on the scale, Trump is at the pinnacle, like Putin and KJU. If you admire any of these people, you should perhaps look again at that KoolAid bottle before you finish it, because you have been fooled.

If you're impressed by his wealth, I suggest you look at how he got it and wonder how he didn't lose it, despite his numerous bankruptcies.

His biggest triumph was to tap into discontent with the mainstream, a view I have sympathy for and to some extent agree with. But instead of Mr Smith, you got a psychopath who you are so enthralled by that you've lost all sight of what is really going on.

[Ructions]

[paulguitar]

Wacky Racer said:

My own view is I thought Trump was going to be a disaster and laughing stock as President.

And you have been proved completely, demonstratively correct.

[paulguitar]

coyft said:

andy_s said:

Hare Psychopath Bingo:

pathological lying
glib and superficial charm
grandiose sense of self
need for stimulation
cunning and manipulative
lack of remorse or guilt
shallow emotional response
callousness and lack of empathy
parasitic lifestyle
poor behavioral controls
sexual promiscuity
early behavior problems
lack of realistic long-term goals
impulsivity
irresponsibility
failure to accept responsibility
many short-term marital relationships
juvenile delinquency
revocation of conditional release*
criminal versatility

For our Pro-Trump participants, the one to note is 'manipulative'; using a glib and superficial charm allied to pathological lying to manipulate people, like yourselves, to their own ends.

Now while many leaders in both industry and politics are somewhere on the scale, Trump is at the pinnacle, like Putin and KJU. If you admire any of these people, you should perhaps look again at that KoolAid bottle before you finish it, because you have been fooled.

If you're impressed by his wealth, I suggest you look at how he got it and wonder how he didn't lose it, despite his numerous bankruptcies.

His biggest triumph was to tap into discontent with the mainstream, a view I have sympathy for and to some extent agree with. But instead of Mr Smith, you got a psychopath who you are so enthralled by that you've lost all sight of what is really going on.

Given all that, it's incredible that the US economy is growing, stocks have had a record run and unemployment is falling. Oh and let's not forget the we might even avoid a nuclear war with North Korea.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

It's not at all incredible. All of that was firmly in place when he took office.

If the Korean situation improves, it will be despite, and not because of, Trump's behaviour up to now. He engaged in petty name calling with their lunatic leader, FFS. As yet, he has certainly not done anything to improve the situation.

[RobDickinson]

What's Trump done since taking office?

Managed to get the government shut down.
Increased national debt when he promised to eliminate it in 8 years.
Decreased trade and increased costs to us businesses with tariffs.
Given huge tax breaks to the wealth and removed Healthcare for the poor.
Dropped out of the tpp then later realized what it was actually about and wants back in.

Employment etc always lag political decisions so we are still seeing the results of the Obama Era policies continuing that trend.