45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 4)
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Mannaforts lost his case against the Justice Department that Mueller overstepped his authority
Paul Manafort lost his civil lawsuit attacking Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s authority to charge him with crimes unrelated to his role as President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman.
U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson in Washington threw out the suit Friday, saying the criminal cases against Manafort are the proper venue for his assault on the Justice Department’s May 17 order that granted Mueller authority to investigate Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-27...
Paul Manafort lost his civil lawsuit attacking Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s authority to charge him with crimes unrelated to his role as President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman.
U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson in Washington threw out the suit Friday, saying the criminal cases against Manafort are the proper venue for his assault on the Justice Department’s May 17 order that granted Mueller authority to investigate Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-27...
Byker28i said:
Hello - Cohen who had to get $130,000 loan against his house, lent a taxi mogul $26m just before the election along with his father in law, cohen gave $6m. And the guy used it to get into selling weed (smart move - lots of money there)
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/989836824628662...
Liked this one - https://twitter.com/thehill/status/989836824628662...
S'all good man...
The Observer isn't pulling punches: Kremlingate Is Really Just Watergate for Morons—With Russians
http://observer.com/2018/04/mueller-investigating-...
http://observer.com/2018/04/mueller-investigating-...
coyft said:
Byker28i said:
coyft said:
frankenstein12 said:
Coft I hate to side with everyone else on here but you have lost me with this one.. 
Thats a graph. A graph showing unemployment has been rapidly falling for over ten years and when Trump came in mid 17 it was flat mostly and has remained so.
As such how is it decreasing under Trump? Sure its not going up as many predicted it would under Trump but its also not exactly dropping dramatically either.
When Trump was elected unemployment rate was 4.6%, since then it has fallen to 4.2%. I never said it was dropping dramatically or that it wasn't following a trend. Thats a graph. A graph showing unemployment has been rapidly falling for over ten years and when Trump came in mid 17 it was flat mostly and has remained so.
As such how is it decreasing under Trump? Sure its not going up as many predicted it would under Trump but its also not exactly dropping dramatically either.
coyft said:
Byker28i said:
coyft said:
frankenstein12 said:
Coft I hate to side with everyone else on here but you have lost me with this one..
Thats a graph. A graph showing unemployment has been rapidly falling for over ten years and when Trump came in mid 17 it was flat mostly and has remained so.
As such how is it decreasing under Trump? Sure its not going up as many predicted it would under Trump but its also not exactly dropping dramatically either.
When Trump was elected unemployment rate was 4.6%, since then it has fallen to 4.2%. I never said it was dropping dramatically or that it wasn't following a trend. Thats a graph. A graph showing unemployment has been rapidly falling for over ten years and when Trump came in mid 17 it was flat mostly and has remained so.
As such how is it decreasing under Trump? Sure its not going up as many predicted it would under Trump but its also not exactly dropping dramatically either.
coyft said:
Given all that, it's incredible that the US economy is growing, stocks have had a record run and unemployment is falling.
We all quite rightly pointed out that it isn't falling, it's been stuck at 4.1% for the last 6 months, that before that was probably left over from Obama's legacy and Trumps policies haven't actually done anything to improve it.Quite rightly I've pointed out your now backpeddling...
coyft said:
Undoubtedly Trump has had a positive impact on those figures. His economic policy so far, has resulted in jobs being created.
If it’s undoubted then it should be easy to demonstrate a causal link.....e.g.This was the trend pre-Trump
At this point Trump did X
This is what changed as a result of Trump doing X
coyft said:
minimoog said:
I'm happy to acknowkedge that Coyft didnt explicitly say the record low figures are Trump's doing.
I'm also happy to keep believing that's what he meant though regardless of how he phrased it
Undoubtedly Trump has had a positive impact on those figures. His economic policy so far, has resulted in jobs being created. I'm also happy to keep believing that's what he meant though regardless of how he phrased it
I even gave you the link earlier. If you read more than headlines you wouldn't come out with such rubbish
Hows that swamp going?
Another republican resigns
Republican Pennsylvania Rep. Pat Meehan has announced his resignation effective today, says he will pay back the $39,000 to the Treasury used for his office’s sexual harassment settlement.
https://meehan.house.gov/media-center/press-releas...
Another republican resigns
Republican Pennsylvania Rep. Pat Meehan has announced his resignation effective today, says he will pay back the $39,000 to the Treasury used for his office’s sexual harassment settlement.
https://meehan.house.gov/media-center/press-releas...
Byker28i said:
Hows that swamp going?
Another republican resigns
Republican Pennsylvania Rep. Pat Meehan has announced his resignation effective today, says he will pay back the $39,000 to the Treasury used for his office’s sexual harassment settlement.
https://meehan.house.gov/media-center/press-releas...
It may shock you but reps from both sides keep resigning after being found to have acted inappropriately.Another republican resigns
Republican Pennsylvania Rep. Pat Meehan has announced his resignation effective today, says he will pay back the $39,000 to the Treasury used for his office’s sexual harassment settlement.
https://meehan.house.gov/media-center/press-releas...
A lot of Republicans/Trumps people have resigned but mostly because the rest of the republicans and supporters push them to do so.
I would also argue its a good thing they are being found and got rid of so that hopefully the party ends up with ony decent people. Shame the same cannot be said of the democrats whose supporters will forgive them any wrongdoing.
The drain the swmp people sadly dont seem to be gotten rid of well enough though. It seems there are still a lot of lobbyists who are really the bigger issue.
Edited by frankenstein12 on Friday 27th April 21:48
coyft said:
Countdown said:
coyft said:
Undoubtedly Trump has had a positive impact on those figures. His economic policy so far, has resulted in jobs being created.
If it’s undoubted then it should be easy to demonstrate a causal link.....e.g.This was the trend pre-Trump
At this point Trump did X
This is what changed as a result of Trump doing X
Coyft said:
Those employers must be mad, considering the economic fortunes of the US, is according to most on here, in the hands of an imbecile.
The success of the US economy is despite Trump, not because of him. frankenstein12 said:
It may shock you but reps from both sides keep resigning after being found to have acted inappropriately.
A lot of Republicans/Trumps people have resigned but mostly because the rest of the republicans and supporters push them to do so.
I would also argue its a good thing they are being found and got rid of so that hopefully the party ends up with ony decent people. Shame the same cannot be said of the democrats whose supporters will forgive them any wrongdoing.
The drain the swmp people sadly dont seem to be gotten rid of well enough though. It seems there are still a lot of lobbyists who are really the bigger issue.
17 Dems, 38 republicans so far I think...A lot of Republicans/Trumps people have resigned but mostly because the rest of the republicans and supporters push them to do so.
I would also argue its a good thing they are being found and got rid of so that hopefully the party ends up with ony decent people. Shame the same cannot be said of the democrats whose supporters will forgive them any wrongdoing.
The drain the swmp people sadly dont seem to be gotten rid of well enough though. It seems there are still a lot of lobbyists who are really the bigger issue.
Edited by frankenstein12 on Friday 27th April 21:48
The House Intelligence Committee on Friday released a GOP-authored, heavily redacted report that found no evidence of collusion between President Trump’s campaign and Russia. Democtrats on the committee have refused to sign it
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/385236...
The report is here if anyone fancies a read: https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180322/1...
John O Brennan former CIA director has said
A highly partisan, incomplete, and deeply flawed report by a broken House Committee means nothing. The Special Counsel’s work is being carried out by professional investigators—not political staffers. SC’s findings will be comprehensive & authoritative. Stay tuned, Mr. Trump....
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/385236...
The report is here if anyone fancies a read: https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180322/1...
John O Brennan former CIA director has said
A highly partisan, incomplete, and deeply flawed report by a broken House Committee means nothing. The Special Counsel’s work is being carried out by professional investigators—not political staffers. SC’s findings will be comprehensive & authoritative. Stay tuned, Mr. Trump....
Byker28i said:
The House Intelligence Committee on Friday released a GOP-authored, heavily redacted report that found no evidence of collusion between President Trump’s campaign and Russia. Democtrats on the committee have refused to sign it
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/385236...
The report is here if anyone fancies a read: https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180322/1...
John O Brennan former CIA director has said
A highly partisan, incomplete, and deeply flawed report by a broken House Committee means nothing. The Special Counsel’s work is being carried out by professional investigators—not political staffers. SC’s findings will be comprehensive & authoritative. Stay tuned, Mr. Trump....
GOP checked twice behind the sofa and asked Trump all abut any collusion, NO COLLUSION!http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/385236...
The report is here if anyone fancies a read: https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180322/1...
John O Brennan former CIA director has said
A highly partisan, incomplete, and deeply flawed report by a broken House Committee means nothing. The Special Counsel’s work is being carried out by professional investigators—not political staffers. SC’s findings will be comprehensive & authoritative. Stay tuned, Mr. Trump....
Byker28i said:
frankenstein12 said:
It may shock you but reps from both sides keep resigning after being found to have acted inappropriately.
A lot of Republicans/Trumps people have resigned but mostly because the rest of the republicans and supporters push them to do so.
I would also argue its a good thing they are being found and got rid of so that hopefully the party ends up with ony decent people. Shame the same cannot be said of the democrats whose supporters will forgive them any wrongdoing.
The drain the swmp people sadly dont seem to be gotten rid of well enough though. It seems there are still a lot of lobbyists who are really the bigger issue.
17 Dems, 38 republicans so far I think...A lot of Republicans/Trumps people have resigned but mostly because the rest of the republicans and supporters push them to do so.
I would also argue its a good thing they are being found and got rid of so that hopefully the party ends up with ony decent people. Shame the same cannot be said of the democrats whose supporters will forgive them any wrongdoing.
The drain the swmp people sadly dont seem to be gotten rid of well enough though. It seems there are still a lot of lobbyists who are really the bigger issue.
Edited by frankenstein12 on Friday 27th April 21:48
Byker28i said:
The House Intelligence Committee on Friday released a GOP-authored, heavily redacted report that found no evidence of collusion between President Trump’s campaign and Russia. Democtrats on the committee have refused to sign it
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/385236...
The report is here if anyone fancies a read: https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180322/1...
John O Brennan former CIA director has said
A highly partisan, incomplete, and deeply flawed report by a broken House Committee means nothing. The Special Counsel’s work is being carried out by professional investigators—not political staffers. SC’s findings will be comprehensive & authoritative. Stay tuned, Mr. Trump....
I would suggest be careful what you wish for. Every time they shake the tree more questions come out about the FBI and democrats than about Trump and co.http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/385236...
The report is here if anyone fancies a read: https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180322/1...
John O Brennan former CIA director has said
A highly partisan, incomplete, and deeply flawed report by a broken House Committee means nothing. The Special Counsel’s work is being carried out by professional investigators—not political staffers. SC’s findings will be comprehensive & authoritative. Stay tuned, Mr. Trump....
So far we have Strocak or however its spelt and the other FBI staffers texts where one of them actually states there is "Nothing there" in regards to the Russian collusion story.
We have James Clapper former DNI who leaked details of the steel dossier/briefing given to Donald Trump to CNN's Jake Tapper. It appears he also lied to congress about doing so. It also seems it was a setup with James Comey who briefed Donald Trump and Obama on it and advised the media had a whiff of the story just so that he could pass the dossier details to Clapper to Clapper to pass to CNN's Tapper.
We have seemingly numerous incednces of James COmey leaking confidential information.
The Steel dossier was the basis for the entire collusion narrative and investigation and I believe was used to obtain the fisa warrants that kicked it all off even though the FBI knew that it was dodgy info and paid for by the DNC.
I dont think Trump colluded with the Russians. If anything will bring him down i suspect its this stormy daniels affair and I dont think even that will.
Reality is everyone knows he lies and they have done nothing to remove him yet even after some fair old whoppers.
I very much doubt him lying about paying some porn star will be enough to get him removed from office.
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