45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 4)

[anonymous-user]

coyft said:

Byker28i said:

We know Hannity has close ties with trump, they speak regularly, used the same Lawyer, Cohen, have the same values, especially when it comes to making money and the truth...

There are reports that Fox News and Hannity are under investigation by the FBI for russian connections.
A single report for now, not repeated elsewhere so I wouldn't give it much weight yet, but it may be one to watc
https://patribotics.blog/2017/07/20/fox-news-hanni...

Once you’re in tune with the sensible people.

If Hannity and some Fox execs ended up being charged, we’d all be laughing long and hard.

Well done for catching up!

[frankenstein12]

coyft said:

Byker28i said:

We know Hannity has close ties with trump, they speak regularly, used the same Lawyer, Cohen, have the same values, especially when it comes to making money and the truth...

There are reports that Fox News and Hannity are under investigation by the FBI for russian connections.
A single report for now, not repeated elsewhere so I wouldn't give it much weight yet, but it may be one to watc
https://patribotics.blog/2017/07/20/fox-news-hanni...

I am fairly convinced at this point that Byker28i is Comey or one of the lead Democrats at this point. His constant pushing of the Russian collusion anti Trump narrative is really quite admirable and dedicated.

Maybe he is a Russian or Democrat Bot?

[Byker28i]

frankenstein12 said:

I have stopped listening to Giuliani. The man seems to only make idiotic comments/ Its like he feels he is competition with Trump to see who can say the most stupid st in a day.

I certainly don't think his comments are individually the request of Trump directly. I think Trump has simply told Giuliani to defend him and instead it seems he is trying to outdo him

I think the latest pardon talk is Guilliani just prepping trump for when he needs one, with the investigation into the leaks from the NY FBI office to him, prince etc.

[Byker28i]

frankenstein12 said:

I am fairly convinced at this point that Byker28i is Comey or one of the lead Democrats at this point. His constant pushing of the Russian collusion anti Trump narrative is really quite admirable and dedicated.

Maybe he is a Russian or Democrat Bot?

or perhaps just reporting the news and the details? There's so much it's hard to keep up, which is why it's handy to have multiple sources to correlate the stories against and apply weighting.

[Gameface]

coyft said:

It's not "news". It's just made up crap with no source.

I don't think you're arguing from a position of strength here...

[Byker28i]

Gameface said:

coyft said:

It's not "news". It's just made up crap with no source.

I don't think you're arguing from a position of strength here...

Funny. Unlike others I provide sources.

Still many thousands of people, thousands and thousands, have told me that coyft makes stuff up

Edit: have you noticed that anything trump says with numbers in it is wrong or a lie?

[frankenstein12]

coyft said:

Byker28i said:

frankenstein12 said:

I am fairly convinced at this point that Byker28i is Comey or one of the lead Democrats at this point. His constant pushing of the Russian collusion anti Trump narrative is really quite admirable and dedicated.

Maybe he is a Russian or Democrat Bot?

or perhaps just reporting the news and the details? There's so much it's hard to keep up, which is why it's handy to have multiple sources to correlate the stories against and apply weighting.

It's not "news". It's just made up crap with no source.

Sometimes yes sometimes no. There is a middle line which unfortunately people on both sides often fail to note such is their strength of feeling on the subject..

I would always argue anyone to keep an open mind to all facts or theories regardless of whether evidenced or whether you like them or dislike them.

They form a part of a greater picture and often conspiracies/theories can prove to be true/real.

Edited by frankenstein12 on Saturday 16th June 11:50

[rscott]

coyft said:

It's a source I'll give you that. Trouble is the source is a conspiracy theory site, to call it news is laughable.

Probably why he said "A single report for now, not repeated elsewhere so I wouldn't give it much weight yet, but it may be one to watch".
So making it clear it wasn't that solid a source.

[Gameface]

coyft said:

Gameface said:

coyft said:

It's not "news". It's just made up crap with no source.

I don't think you're arguing from a position of strength here...

Nice soundbite, but try quoting something.

Once again...

[Byker28i]

How have I missed this before. Good parody account, very funny
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealDonaldTrFan

[Byker28i]

Court likes to shout about no Russian collusion, how it's all fake, ignoring that this is exactly what's being investigated.

Manafort is being investigated for crimes relating to coluding with the Russians over their efforts to interfere with the 2016 election.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/...

The trump tower meetings, lied about multiple times, all the way to trump himself, is probably going to feature heavily in the final charges also.

Adam Schiff has said there's plenty evidence of collusion.

[unrepentant]

Byker28i said:

Challo said:

Those clips are a disgrace. He is the President and goes on live tv making outright false claims and lies. The ones about the dead soldiers remains is disgusting, claiming thousands of people have asked him to bring them back.

When your using dead soldiers for political gain it’s down right despicable

My wifes uncle server in Korea, he was 90 when he died a couple of years ago, so his parents would have been 110.
I didn't know the US had several thousands of people over 100

Or is it that the donald doesn't know which decade the korean war was in?

Trump can't tell the difference between Korea and Vietnam. He once heard someone on FOX say that their Son didn't come home from Vietnam and in his tiny brain he heard many parents asking him to repatriate their son's remains from Korea.

You have to remember that he's a sociopath with dementia. These things are difficult for him.

[frankenstein12]

Byker28i said:

Court likes to shout about no Russian collusion, how it's all fake, ignoring that this is exactly what's being investigated.

Manafort is being investigated for crimes relating to coluding with the Russians over their efforts to interfere with the 2016 election.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/...

The trump tower meetings, lied about multiple times, all the way to trump himself, is probably going to feature heavily in the final charges also.

Adam Schiff has said there's plenty evidence of collusion.

Evidence that Manafort colluded with Russians in the 2016 campaign please?

All that document does is make unfounded allegations.

I very much agree with others that this does seem like a campaign being run to try dig up some form of dirt on Trump by casting a huge fishing net to try find something or someone that can be pinned on Trump.

There is even a judge involved in this who has said has much and criticised Mueller and |Co in court for over reach in attempt to find some kind of crime committed by Trump which is not what the special councils directive was.

The special council investigation was set up to establish if there was collusion by Trump.

So far virtually none has been found. Sure lots of evidence has apparently been found of wrongdoing by people connected to Trump but little to none of it shows any collusion but seems to be being used to try get people who have worked with Trump to give evidence against him regardless of whether its to do with collusion.

[Byker28i]

I didn't say there was conclusive proof (yet), I said that Manafort was being investigated for collusion and provided the link

[Byker28i]

Almost 1600 children separated from their parents in the last 6 weeks

God tweeted
THOU SHALT NOT TAKE CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS AND PUT THEM IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS HOLY st WHY THE fk DO I HAVE TO SAY THESE THINGS
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheGoodGodAbove/status/...
😄

As a tactic it'll certainly work in discouraging people, but that doesn't make it right, no matter how many times they claim the bible says they can.

[Countdown]

Byker28i said:

How have I missed this before. Good parody account, very funny
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealDonaldTrFan

Possibly it might only be me that thinks this but the parody account isn't that much different to the real account.

And that's the worrying thing - there seem to be millions of people who agree with Trump's views even when they are a joke.

[ou sont les biscuits]

Countdown said:

Byker28i said:

How have I missed this before. Good parody account, very funny
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealDonaldTrFan

Possibly it might only be me that thinks this but the parody account isn't that much different to the real account.

And that's the worrying thing - there seem to be millions of people who agree with Trump's views even when they are a joke.

You mean the reel account?

[Davos123]

Louise Mensch's blog is not a source.

edit: If Coyft posted a link to infowars saying something like "only one source so far so take with a pinch of salt but one to watch" he'd rightly be dismissed as an idiot. Posting a link to Patribotics is exactly the same.

[_dobbo_]

frankenstein12 said:

There is even a judge involved in this who has said has much and criticised Mueller and |Co in court for over reach in attempt to find some kind of crime committed by Trump which is not what the special councils directive was.

The special council investigation was set up to establish if there was collusion by Trump.

So far virtually none has been found.

Once again you assume the lack of any public revelations means a lack of anything being found. Maybe wait until Mueller is finished.

Also you are massively misinterpreting what the scope of Muellers probe is, go read the document describing the scope of the investigation, then come back.

Edit to add - even if Mueller was exceeding his authority (he's not), so what? He's finding evidence of criminality everywhere he looks. Should all these criminals be allowed to get away with it?



Edit again, I'll even do it for you.

1.) The scope of the investigation does not include the term collusion at all. That's Trump's invention.
2.) It DOES include possible links or coordination between Trump’s campaign and the Russian government
3.) It does include obstruction of justice

and finally, the kicker:

4.) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation

So, in your opinion based on this, is Mueller exceeding his authority?

Edited by _dobbo_ on Saturday 16th June 14:01

[frankenstein12]

Byker28i said:

Almost 1600 children separated from their parents in the last 6 weeks

God tweeted
THOU SHALT NOT TAKE CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS AND PUT THEM IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS HOLY st WHY THE fk DO I HAVE TO SAY THESE THINGS
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheGoodGodAbove/status/...
??

As a tactic it'll certainly work in discouraging people, but that doesn't make it right, no matter how many times they claim the bible says they can.

As i posted previously what would you have them do.

Lock the kids up with their parents?
Let the kids roam the streets freely?
Place the kids in individual care homes?
Don't lock up the parents and just let them go free with their kids?