45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 4)

[andy_s]

paulguitar said:

He is having a massive Twitter tantrum today. Sounds very, very stressed. Something about to drop?

Plus ca change...

[The Vambo]

Max_Torque said:

Lets be quite clear here:

If you support Trump then you effectively either agree with, or are willing to turn a blind eye too, his bigoted, racist, and sexist attitude. In either case, that makes you morally bankrupt.

This effects everyone, you might not think so but it does. Are you married or have a girlfriend or even a daughter? How would you feel is you heard me talking about how i could "grab them by their pussy", even if it's just a boost to other sexist men? Seriously, think about it.

And whilst you can take a hard line on immigration, just remember that 99.9% of Americans are immigrant to their own country, and not that long ago either. Trump himself comes from a family who immigrated into the USA in 1885, which is just 133 years ago.


And that is Trump in a nutshell. He doesn't care if it's not happening to him, period. Zero empathy.

How quickly do you think he'd ban coal mining if someone wanted to open a coal mine next to one of his resorts?
How quickly would he change the immigration laws if a member of his family wanted in to the US?


So, you forgive me for having little sympathy for people saying "i support Trump, but i'm not a racist........."

That's a pretty pathetic post from a man of your calibre Max, give me every detail of a person for 30 years and I will show that they have said, done or thought something that excludes them from the podium of moral superiority that you and others have placed themselves on.

Every single person walking this planet has a skeleton in the closet, be it words thoughts or actions that if it was emailed to all of their friends and aquaintances would cause huge shame and embarrassment.

If you were on the trolly about to be wheeled into theatre and suddenly found that the surgeon who was about to remove that tumour beats their partner every night, would you demand they were sacked there and then?

Would you eff, morals are a blurred stick used as and when it suits the halfwit wielding them.

I am certainly not casting aspersions but the frequency with which individuals who demand others live up to their arbitrary moral standards turn out to be massively contradicting their own lecturing is too frequent to be a coincidence IMHO.

[frankenstein12]

Max_Torque said:

Lets be quite clear here:

If you support Trump then you effectively either agree with, or are willing to turn a blind eye too, his bigoted, racist, and sexist attitude. In either case, that makes you morally bankrupt.

This effects everyone, you might not think so but it does. Are you married or have a girlfriend or even a daughter? How would you feel is you heard me talking about how i could "grab them by their pussy", even if it's just a boost to other sexist men? Seriously, think about it.

And whilst you can take a hard line on immigration, just remember that 99.9% of Americans are immigrant to their own country, and not that long ago either. Trump himself comes from a family who immigrated into the USA in 1885, which is just 133 years ago.


And that is Trump in a nutshell. He doesn't care if it's not happening to him, period. Zero empathy.

How quickly do you think he'd ban coal mining if someone wanted to open a coal mine next to one of his resorts?
How quickly would he change the immigration laws if a member of his family wanted in to the US?


So, you forgive me for having little sympathy for people saying "i support Trump, but i'm not a racist........."

I don't personally believe he has a "bigoted" racist sexist, attitude but then that's just me and how i perceive racism and sexism. I don't cry myself to sleep if i step on an ant and wear black for weeks after.

[p1stonhead]

frankenstein12 said:

Max_Torque said:

Lets be quite clear here:

If you support Trump then you effectively either agree with, or are willing to turn a blind eye too, his bigoted, racist, and sexist attitude. In either case, that makes you morally bankrupt.

This effects everyone, you might not think so but it does. Are you married or have a girlfriend or even a daughter? How would you feel is you heard me talking about how i could "grab them by their pussy", even if it's just a boost to other sexist men? Seriously, think about it.

And whilst you can take a hard line on immigration, just remember that 99.9% of Americans are immigrant to their own country, and not that long ago either. Trump himself comes from a family who immigrated into the USA in 1885, which is just 133 years ago.


And that is Trump in a nutshell. He doesn't care if it's not happening to him, period. Zero empathy.

How quickly do you think he'd ban coal mining if someone wanted to open a coal mine next to one of his resorts?
How quickly would he change the immigration laws if a member of his family wanted in to the US?


So, you forgive me for having little sympathy for people saying "i support Trump, but i'm not a racist........."

I don't personally believe he has a "bigoted" racist sexist, attitude but then that's just me and how i perceive racism and sexism. I don't cry myself to sleep if i step on an ant and wear black for weeks after.

That means you are too chap

[frankenstein12]

p1stonhead said:

That means you are too chap

Yup absolutely died in wool racist and sexist here.

[Davos123]

frankenstein12 said:

I don't personally believe he has a "bigoted" racist sexist, attitude but then that's just me and how i perceive racism and sexism. I don't cry myself to sleep if i step on an ant and wear black for weeks after.

Not sure what stepping on an ant has to do with sexually assaulting women, separating children from their families and oppressing black people.

[frankenstein12]

Davos123 said:

Not sure what stepping on an ant has to do with sexually assaulting women, separating children from their families and oppressing black people.

Its got to do with being emotionally mature enough not to consider every little thing in life offensive or upsetting.

[Davos123]

frankenstein12 said:

Its got to do with being emotionally mature enough not to consider every little thing in life offensive or upsetting.

you don't think sexual assault is offensive or upsetting? You don't think it's upsetting to separate children from their parents?

[The Vambo]

Davos123 said:

Not sure what stepping on an ant has to do with sexually assaulting women, separating children from their families and oppressing black people.

Yeah, those black people with their new jobs and pardons and stuff. Slavemaster I tell ye.

[paulguitar]

The Vambo said:

Max_Torque said:

Lets be quite clear here:

If you support Trump then you effectively either agree with, or are willing to turn a blind eye too, his bigoted, racist, and sexist attitude. In either case, that makes you morally bankrupt.

This effects everyone, you might not think so but it does. Are you married or have a girlfriend or even a daughter? How would you feel is you heard me talking about how i could "grab them by their pussy", even if it's just a boost to other sexist men? Seriously, think about it.

And whilst you can take a hard line on immigration, just remember that 99.9% of Americans are immigrant to their own country, and not that long ago either. Trump himself comes from a family who immigrated into the USA in 1885, which is just 133 years ago.


And that is Trump in a nutshell. He doesn't care if it's not happening to him, period. Zero empathy.

How quickly do you think he'd ban coal mining if someone wanted to open a coal mine next to one of his resorts?
How quickly would he change the immigration laws if a member of his family wanted in to the US?


So, you forgive me for having little sympathy for people saying "i support Trump, but i'm not a racist........."

That's a pretty pathetic post from a man of your calibre Max, give me every detail of a person for 30 years and I will show that they have said, done or thought something that excludes them from the podium of moral superiority that you and others have placed themselves on.

Every single person walking this planet has a skeleton in the closet, be it words thoughts or actions that if it was emailed to all of their friends and aquaintances would cause huge shame and embarrassment.

If you were on the trolly about to be wheeled into theatre and suddenly found that the surgeon who was about to remove that tumour beats their partner every night, would you demand they were sacked there and then?

Would you eff, morals are a blurred stick used as and when it suits the halfwit wielding them.

I am certainly not casting aspersions but the frequency with which individuals who demand others live up to their arbitrary moral standards turn out to be massively contradicting their own lecturing is too frequent to be a coincidence IMHO.

Of course, everyone has flaws. But trump is POTUS and appears to be literally one of the worst people to have ever existed, seemingly with no redeeming traits.

Plenty of people are not racists, and just because your hypothetical surgeon operates on people as well as belting his wife, that does not make it acceptable, does it?

[Tampon]

Davos123 said:

I don't think you understand what empathy means. You can be very empathetic and completely evil. Sympathy and empathy are mutually exclusive

I don't think I could be more clear if I tried David.

You have me. All of me. Mold me into the way you see things. I want your truth, In me.

I now understand empathy, because of you. I had this other strange thought about what empathy meant. It was those left wing communists at the Royal Holloway University who have been plotting this deep state thought meld into world in their History and English departments.

I am lucky to have escaped that elitist world view and now have been renriched by Davos123 from the internet who is gracefully giving out free lessons to those who truly want them.

Keep me in mind when you type your insights next. Know they are willing recieved. Every keystroke should whisper the words "Tamponnnnnnnnnn".

1. MAGA #NewWorldOrder #Davos123forPM

[frankenstein12]

Davos123 said:

you don't think sexual assault is offensive or upsetting? You don't think it's upsetting to separate children from their parents?

Define sexual assault. Define Racism. Provide context and reasoning for separating kids etc and so on.

I am extremely bored of everything being described as sexist racist etc and blown out of proportion.
For ex as far as I am concerned calling a woman "love" is not demeaning or sexist but to others its the absolute end of the world. It may be irritating to someone to be constantly be referred to in that manner but its not "offensive" its just irritating.

In the case of these kids being taken from parents it is nothing new albeit the programme has been stepped up meaning more are being taken from parents. CONTEXT is that the US border is porous and there is not legislation and controls in place to fix the problem so Trump is using the tools at his disposal.

Is it harsh for the kids and their parents to be separated? Yes absolutely but the parents created the situation and knew full well it could happen by coming to the country illegally.

Cause and effect.
Its staggeringly simple.

Don't blame the jailer for the consequences of your own actions.

Edited by frankenstein12 on Sunday 17th June 17:59

[Davos123]

Weirdo. Not my opinion on what empathy means, the article I linked to was written by a professor of Clinical Psychiatry and Director of Psychopharmacology Clinic at Weill Cornell Medical College. I think if you asked a professor in the right field at Royal Holloway, they'd tell you the same

[Tampon]

Davos123 said:

frankenstein12 said:

Its got to do with being emotionally mature enough not to consider every little thing in life offensive or upsetting.

you don't think sexual assault is offensive or upsetting? You don't think it's upsetting to separate children from their parents?

Argggghhhhhhh.

My two new life mentors. dueling out the the larger parts of the meaning of life and morality.

What to do, what to do.

Croyft! Guide me through this dark valley of death and lead me the right way. Your messiahs are warring and confusing the flock.

[The Vambo]

paulguitar said:

But trump is POTUS and appears to be literally one of the worst people to have ever existed,

How the fk and I supposed to have an adult discussion with that sort of hysteria, Jesus.

To be honest, I have deleted about 3 replies to that post as they were too rude, you were good enough to reply to me. Can you not see the hysteria?

Worse than all the murderers? Worse than the rapists?

What about the recent politicians who have the blood of hundreds of soldiers on their hands?

Just think for a minute, what train of thought led you to posting that madness on a public forum? Do you really believe that?

[Tampon]

Davos123 said:

Weirdo. Not my opinion on what empathy means, the article I linked to was written by a professor of Clinical Psychiatry and Director of Psychopharmacology Clinic at Weill Cornell Medical College. I think if you asked a professor in the right field at Royal Holloway, they'd tell you the same

I told those people "university" about you and they could poke it. I don't think they let me back.

I am back with you Davos.

Begone Frankenstein, you big wobbly rasist you.

Croyft. Stand down. I call you back for the big stuff.

[frankenstein12]

Tampon said:

Argggghhhhhhh.

My two new life mentors. dueling out the the larger parts of the meaning of life and morality.

What to do, what to do.

Croyft! Guide me through this dark valley of death and lead me the right way. Your messiahs are warring and confusing the flock.

Loving your posts. Keep it up and do not change.

[Davos123]

This thread is ridiculous, any disagreement over something said about Trump makes you a raving right wing Trump fan. I can't stand the guy and I disagree with pretty much every single policy he's proposed or implimented. But because I don't think people should use conspiracy sites as a news source and I think that Trump is more dangerous because he has empathy but lacks sympathy, I'm somehow lumped in the same boat as Frankenstein? You're absolutely fking pathetic.

For avoidance of doubt, I'm a vegan in favour of fully open borders, high welfare and rehabilitative justice. I couldn't be further away from a Trump supporter.

[p1stonhead]

frankenstein12 said:

p1stonhead said:

That means you are too chap

Yup absolutely died in wool racist and sexist here.

If you agree with Trump on pretty much anything at this point, then yes you are.

[The Vambo]

p1stonhead said:

frankenstein12 said:

p1stonhead said:

That means you are too chap

Yup absolutely died in wool racist and sexist here.

If you agree with Trump on pretty much anything at this point, then yes you are.

More jobs for black people?

Here is a genuine question, which is better.........

A black president who provides fewer jobs for black people.

A racist white president who provides more jobs for black people.

Edited by The Vambo on Sunday 17th June 18:10