45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 4)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 4)

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Tartan Pixie

2,208 posts

148 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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RobDickinson said:
Captain bone spur announces a space force to try distract from all of the other issues.

Nice going Trump, USA can't even put a man into space right now..


To be fair the space force thing was brewing long before Trump plus the yanks are further forward in next gen space tech than their reliance on Russian engines would suggest. IIRC it was the Chinese who did a very public shooting down of a satellite which kicked off the space arms race that both the Russians and Americans had previously done a pretty good job of resisting.

The timing and total inability of the trump administration to connect arse with elbow does hoeverer lend itself well to illegal alien jokes smile

glazbagun

14,282 posts

198 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Can't find the Fake News thread, but relevent to one of the biggest liars on twitter:

1 in 4 correctly distinguish facts from opinion in survey

I find this staggering. I mean all get caught up in consensus views, but to be unable to tell the difference in print is actually horrifying.

Tartan Pixie

2,208 posts

148 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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glazbagun said:
Can't find the Fake News thread, but relevent to one of the biggest liars on twitter:

1 in 4 correctly distinguish facts from opinion in survey

I find this staggering. I mean all get caught up in consensus views, but to be unable to tell the difference in print is actually horrifying.
Thank you for the link. This stuff is the real deal, not the tittle tattle about collusion between culturally compatible cultures who but for the jock strap of arms sales and idiot politicians would be friends **SHOCK!!!!**

{Edit - On the off chance the above sentenceagraph could be taken as a dig at Byker's enjoyment that's not the intention. I'm generally quite pro Slavic/Russian because I love the people but the politics can go f itself. Byker links good, western stronk!}

[nod to tampon]
This link shows the beauty of idiots who are still f'ing about with the morality of skin colour. How are these not the perfect idiots to exploit!!!!!

Finally we've produced the stupidity of jihadis in a domestic audience RESULT!!!!

Give me a news network that spans America and I can do anything with these dumb s. Yes Yes YES!!!!! (sounds of cyberdong pumping a toaster*).

No, seriously. That sound you heard wasn't Murdoch n co cracking one out to their new found playthings. It was the sound of silicon valley and silicon glen laughing our fking heads off as we prepare to launch a gender fluid globalist immigrant in to the space which Trump's disruption has caused.

I wish I was joking but I know that look of pleasure on a trump supporter's face when policies stated line up so well with outcomes desired, it's always blessed desire when the orange one states that it was his outcome all along to produce an economic stimulus that leads to a tailwind which can be exploited by gender fluid globalists to furtherer their horrific goal of wanting humans who live on this planet to live in dignity.

I know they will look of pleasure because, not to break an NDA, but this isn't the first sock I've cucked... wait...WUT!
[/nod to tampon]



Of all odd places to be at the centre of this the university of Reading is worth looking up Kevin Warwick in particular. You can take a bunch of rat neurons, attach them to a robot and get behaviour similar to an average wall-mart participant**.

I've put this after the [/nod to tampon] because it's not a fking joke. Our minds can be programmed like a 386 chipset and until we see that programing and have it laid out before us we are all vulnerable.



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*Read more 40k WAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
also, r/grimdank
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**Wallmart's products are mostly sourced in China and it's one of America's biggest employers. China purchasing American debt so the human equivalent of rat neuron robots can go buy stuff is... uh.. it's an economist joke... at least I hope someone out there who's in to economics got it... what'd you say?... You find it sinister rather than humorous... really?!

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Edit - Removed errant comma before the grammar police could get to it, phew.


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Edited by Tartan Pixie on Tuesday 19th June 08:08

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

durbster

10,288 posts

223 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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frankenstein12 said:
As I said before I have no issue in principle with removing the kids from their parents pending processing
No, there's absolutely no justification for this. It's utterly horrific for the state to take children from their parents as nothing more than a deterrent.

What values does America believe it's protecting by doing this?

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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durbster said:
frankenstein12 said:
As I said before I have no issue in principle with removing the kids from their parents pending processing
No, there's absolutely no justification for this. It's utterly horrific for the state to take children from their parents as nothing more than a deterrent.

What values does America believe it's protecting by doing this?
White values

Byker28i

60,155 posts

218 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Countdown said:
frankenstein12 said:
Countdown said:
Is anybody surprised?

Like it or not ^^^ is the new “normal” in the US. Actually it’s not “new”. It’s been happening / growing for some time. The only thing that’s materially changed is that the people who share the views of Ann Coulter no longer bother to hide their bigotry and have an advocate in the White House.
Wanting the rule of law to be applied fairly and equally and borders to be effectively controlled is NOT bigotry. Its basic common sense.
What are you on about? Did you see the comment I was replying to? confused
F21 is ignoring the fact that the crime is actually classed as a misdemeanor, so the 'punishment' is particularly harsh. People are presenting themselves for asylum and being classed as having illegally entered the country, it's a different thing. Yes they are probably workign the system, but they should be due processed, not have their children ripped from them, which is happening many times.

Even when released or deported, the children are now in the system, being processed differently and are not returned. The parents don't even know where they are.

Then you've fox news hosts calling the cages, "essentially summer camps"
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/392922-laura-ing...


This 8 minute recording has children crying and a Border Patrol agent making jokes about an "orchestra" of wailing children.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/propublica-...

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Byker28i

60,155 posts

218 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Seventy said:
Nanook said:
Trump space force: US to set up sixth military branch - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44527672

I thought this was a joke at first.
Trump will eliminate all illegal aliens.
Shags porn stars and playboy bunnys, has a space force, his base will love this.
Where is Areout when you need him biggrin

Byker28i

60,155 posts

218 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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According to CNN's latest count... at least 14 Trump associates had contact with Russians during the 2016 presidential campaign and transition. Manafort, Gates, Kushner, Trump Jr., Papadopoulos, Page, Sessions, Stone, Gordon, Flynn, Prince, Cohen, Caputo, Berkowitz.

Not forgetting in Feb 2017 trump said: "I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge, no person that I deal with does.”
Pence said much the same.

trump jr told congress he was not aware
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrat...

Sessions had to change his statement when facts came out:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russi...

Papadopoulos admitted he lied as is now a cooperating witness
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-4182...

Roger Stone forgot all about his meetings until shown text messages that proved he had them
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/what-...

Flynn admitted he lied and is now a cooperating witness
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/20...

Prince meetings in the Seychelles etc

Then theres the Ukrainians, Israelis, Saudis, UAE, Qatar, Kushners 'peace trips' whilst he sought finance for his businesses etc


As with Nixon it'll be the obstruction and cover up that'll probably be their undoing.

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Byker28i said:
According to CNN's latest count... at least 14 Trump associates had contact with Russians during the 2016 presidential campaign and transition. Manafort, Gates, Kushner, Trump Jr., Papadopoulos, Page, Sessions, Stone, Gordon, Flynn, Prince, Cohen, Caputo, Berkowitz.

Not forgetting in Feb 2017 trump said: "I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge, no person that I deal with does.”
Pence said much the same.

trump jr told congress he was not aware
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrat...

Sessions had to change his statement when facts came out:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russi...

Papadopoulos admitted he lied as is now a cooperating witness
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-4182...

Roger Stone forgot all about his meetings until shown text messages that proved he had them
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/what-...

Flynn admitted he lied and is now a cooperating witness
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/20...

Prince meetings in the Seychelles etc

Then theres the Ukrainians, Israelis, Saudis, UAE, Qatar, Kushners 'peace trips' whilst he sought finance for his businesses etc


As with Nixon it'll be the obstruction and cover up that'll probably be their undoing.
Gonna need a bigger broom for all those witches caught in the WITCH HUNT!!!!!!

Byker28i

60,155 posts

218 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Did Sarah Sanders really say that Trump won't support any legislation that makes it illegal to separate families at the border, unless it's combined with funding for the border wall in yesterdays press briefing?

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Byker28i said:
Did Sarah Sanders really say that Trump won't support any legislation that makes it illegal to separate families at the border, unless it's combined with funding for the border wall in yesterdays press briefing?
Its always been a blackmail play to fund the wall. Its abhorrent beyond belief.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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p1stonhead said:
Its always been a blackmail play to fund the wall. Its abhorrent beyond belief.
This. Caging children is a bargaining tool to try force the senate to fund the wall Trump promised Mexico would pay for.

durbster

10,288 posts

223 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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These are concentration camps by definition, although the nazi comparisons don't help anything. It's been used so much it has no power.

It would be interesting to compare the US now with the build up to more recent episodes, like Milosevic.

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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durbster said:
These are concentration camps by definition, although the nazi comparisons don't help anything. It's been used so much it has no power.

It would be interesting to compare the US now with the build up to more recent episodes, like Milosevic.
The Nazi comparisons are a bit silly at this stage and the US will no way go as far. But damage is being done.

However, this passage someone shared on Reddit is something to think about. Death by a thousand cuts and all that. Its uncanny.

"...Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don't want to act, or even talk, alone; you don't want to 'go out of your way to make trouble.' Why not?-Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty. Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, 'everyone' is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You know, in France or Italy there would be slogans against the government painted on walls and fences; in Germany, outside the great cities, perhaps, there is not even this. In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, 'It's not so bad' or 'You're seeing things' or 'You're an alarmist.'

And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can't prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don't know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have....

But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That's the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked-if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in '43 had come immediately after the 'German Firm' stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in '33. But of course this isn't the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying 'Jewish swine,' collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in-your nation, your people-is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way."

-Milton Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-1945


Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 19th June 09:03

ScotHill

3,182 posts

110 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Am hoping that the mid-terms will sober things up somewhat, although I don't know how mid-terms are campaigned for - if it's mostly top-down from the Whitehouse then I find it difficult to see how truth would stand a chance. It hasn't so far.

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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ScotHill said:
Am hoping that the mid-terms will sober things up somewhat, although I don't know how mid-terms are campaigned for - if it's mostly top-down from the Whitehouse then I find it difficult to see how truth would stand a chance. It hasn't so far.
He could become a true lame duck. Then it will just be ignoring him for a few years until 2020. I doubt he will win 2020 if the democrats take over this year.

Also, if the dems take over this year, he will be investigated no end and they could call for impeachment I believe?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Become a lame duck? The senate hasnt been able to pass much legislation at all anyhow yet Trump creates chaos and international discord. Invoking powers like calling Canada an enemy of the state to progress a trade war.

And will the mid terms happen? I have my doubts...

Tampon

4,637 posts

226 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Byker28i said:
According to CNN's latest count... at least 14 Trump associates had contact with Russians during the 2016 presidential campaign and transition. Manafort, Gates, Kushner, Trump Jr., Papadopoulos, Page, Sessions, Stone, Gordon, Flynn, Prince, Cohen, Caputo, Berkowitz.

Not forgetting in Feb 2017 trump said: "I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge, no person that I deal with does.”
Pence said much the same.

trump jr told congress he was not aware
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrat...

Sessions had to change his statement when facts came out:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russi...

Papadopoulos admitted he lied as is now a cooperating witness
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-4182...

Roger Stone forgot all about his meetings until shown text messages that proved he had them
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/what-...

Flynn admitted he lied and is now a cooperating witness
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/20...

Prince meetings in the Seychelles etc

Then theres the Ukrainians, Israelis, Saudis, UAE, Qatar, Kushners 'peace trips' whilst he sought finance for his businesses etc


As with Nixon it'll be the obstruction and cover up that'll probably be their undoing.
Hey Coyft, look at this idiot clutching at straws.

What I wouldn't give for a little truth around this place.

Bloody echo chamber of new news stories and different people getting caught, children crying, brutal dicators getting their knobs polished. Where is the positivity people? Think of all the good things Trump is doing.

Just because someone changes their story a couple of times doesn;t mean they are lying or covering anything up. It could be something simple like, I don't know, they had a sip of a hot coffee and their mind wondered whilst giving an interview. Bloody hot some of those expressos when they are first made. Then you get that little bit in your mouth or toungue and you play with it for a while. Really distracting.

Spread the Trumpy love. There are two types of people in this world Mexicans and Mexican'ts.........see their children as they are locked up in a supermarket.

Coyft and I are Mexicans.


Edited by Tampon on Tuesday 19th June 09:55

IJB1959

2,139 posts

87 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Byker28i said:
Seventy said:
Nanook said:
Trump space force: US to set up sixth military branch - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44527672

I thought this was a joke at first.
Trump will eliminate all illegal aliens.
Shags porn stars and playboy bunnys, has a space force, his base will love this.
Where is Areout when you need him biggrin
The US already have a significant 'secret' presence in space funded by the never ending black budget, and with the help of Elon Musk. There is a lot happening up there that we don't even know about so maybe this statement will try to 'legitimise' some of the lost $trillions so far?

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