Miami school shooting

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Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Blaster72 said:
FN2TypeR said:
It'll be swept under the carpet in no time if whitey is to blame; if it's somebody of a different skin colour however, watch the media howl!
Like the Vegas shooter?
A big deal of course but I doubt that the media furore and public response matched what would have happened had Ibrahim, rather than Stephen, been responsible.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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AreOut

3,658 posts

161 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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it seems instagram has taken it down, from what I saw (and read on other sites) he is a gun nutter and sympathiser of syrian rebels...dangerous combination especially in teen years, he probably got quite frustrated he isn't going to get laid on valentines

Blaster72

10,838 posts

197 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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FN2TypeR said:
Blaster72 said:
FN2TypeR said:
It'll be swept under the carpet in no time if whitey is to blame; if it's somebody of a different skin colour however, watch the media howl!
Like the Vegas shooter?
A big deal of course but I doubt that the media furore and public response matched what would have happened had Ibrahim, rather than Stephen, been responsible.
Hardly swept under the carpet in no time though was it?

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Blaster72 said:
FN2TypeR said:
Blaster72 said:
FN2TypeR said:
It'll be swept under the carpet in no time if whitey is to blame; if it's somebody of a different skin colour however, watch the media howl!
Like the Vegas shooter?
A big deal of course but I doubt that the media furore and public response matched what would have happened had Ibrahim, rather than Stephen, been responsible.
Hardly swept under the carpet in no time though was it?
By comparison I would say so; early days but if what Areout has said is true it'll be interesting to see what political capital those in power try to make of this one. The USA likes a bogeyman, at the moment it's the bad brown men who are the butt of the misplaced ire.

No real changes to gun laws of course; I'm sure that we can agree on something as preposterous as that not happening!

Vipers

32,884 posts

228 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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News, 19th school shooting THIS YEAR, he was an 18 year old former student, and is custody.

MellowshipSlinky

14,696 posts

189 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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BBC just reported this as the 18th school shooting this year.
As in 6,7 weeks?

Bloody incomprehensible.

Justices

3,681 posts

164 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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FN2TypeR said:
Blaster72 said:
FN2TypeR said:
Blaster72 said:
FN2TypeR said:
It'll be swept under the carpet in no time if whitey is to blame; if it's somebody of a different skin colour however, watch the media howl!
Like the Vegas shooter?
A big deal of course but I doubt that the media furore and public response matched what would have happened had Ibrahim, rather than Stephen, been responsible.
Hardly swept under the carpet in no time though was it?
By comparison I would say so; early days but if what Areout has said is true it'll be interesting to see what political capital those in power try to make of this one. The USA likes a bogeyman, at the moment it's the bad brown men who are the butt of the misplaced ire.

No real changes to gun laws of course; I'm sure that we can agree on something as preposterous as that not happening!
In all honesty, the fact that it was in Vegas was likely why the story ran as long as it did. The gay nightclub shooting in Orlando didn’t run as long in the press. There’s a definite bias in coverage to suit narratives over here I feel.

Blaster72

10,838 posts

197 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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I don’t buy it, mass murder by anyone attracts pretty much the same amount of coverage. The press move on when something more juicy comes along.

There really isn’t a simple solution. It’ll be interesting to see what weapons this kid used and what laws were already in place to try and limit weapons in that state.

I really don’t think you can disarm the nation with legislation.

Vaud

50,497 posts

155 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Blaster72 said:
I don’t buy it, mass murder by anyone attracts pretty much the same amount of coverage. The press move on when something more juicy comes along.

There really isn’t a simple solution. It’ll be interesting to see what weapons this kid used and what laws were already in place to try and limit weapons in that state.

I really don’t think you can disarm the nation with legislation.
Well you can, but as you say it is [very] complex in the US. The relationship with the gun is deep seated and a political 3rd rail.

Blaster72

10,838 posts

197 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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I think you can bring out legislation to outlaw guns if the political will is there but I don't think you'll disarm the nation. The legislation wouldn't remove guns from the populace.

Vaud

50,497 posts

155 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Blaster72 said:
I think you can bring out legislation to outlaw guns if the political will is there but I don't think you'll disarm the nation. The legislation wouldn't remove guns from the populace.
Oh I agree...

Skywalker

3,269 posts

214 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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jsc15 said:
What if it's a white muslim convert?
Well, seeing as this this the N-teenth school shooting if 2018 it would make a refreshing change from it being a white American Christian.

This isn't news is it? Just the price of living the life with the 2nd Amendment carved into marble post Sandy Hook. (I know...it is an Amendment)

The biggest tragedy is that the next one is just around the corner.

Edited by Skywalker on Wednesday 14th February 22:55


Edited by Skywalker on Wednesday 14th February 22:56

Tankrizzo

7,270 posts

193 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Thoughts and prayers, dismissive statement from NRA, hot air from politicians, nothing will change.

Rinse and repeat.

Sandy Hook was the time to do something.



Edited by Tankrizzo on Wednesday 14th February 23:49

paul789

3,681 posts

104 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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15 deaths reported. 'At least'.

frankenstein12

1,915 posts

96 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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This is a deeply sad situation brought about by numerous factors not just the whole easy access to guns argument.

This is due to the way kids are brought up now where they are not taught how to deal with their emotions and the realities of life and that it can be unfair and unpleasant.

That coupled with lack of decent parental input and lack of control on guns understandably leads to these constant tragic school shootings.

How to deal with it is the bigger problem.

Banning guns is not the solution. Background checks and stricter gun control definitely is a step in the right direction however potentially this young man who is 18 would have been able to buy a gun/s due to being 18 if he was able to pass the relevant legal checks which would mean he would not be able to be stopped anyway.

I just find the whole situation sad. Kids should not have to suffer this sort of thing and nor should their parents. If i was a parent in the US i would fear sending my kids to school every day as they could become a victim in the next inevitable school shooting.


unrepentant

21,258 posts

256 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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NBC saying as many as 12 fatalities.

unrepentant

21,258 posts

256 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Another spoiled inadequate moron who got upset and because of our ludicrous gun laws was able to arm himself with a weapon of mass destruction and slaughter innocents. It’s disgusting and will change absolutely nothing while the gun lobby own the GOP.

At least 17 dead now.

Chimune

3,179 posts

223 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Vipers said:
News, 19th school shooting THIS YEAR, he was an 18 year old former student, and is custody.
Extrapolate to end of year gives 165 school shootings this year.

Doesn't really matter though. 165, 300, 500. Nothing gonna change, so the next 30 pages of this thread will be utterly pointless.

Their kids, their guns, their rules. Best not to dwell too much on it all really.