Mollycoddled 'Snowflake children' warns head teacher

Mollycoddled 'Snowflake children' warns head teacher

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Ari

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19,352 posts

216 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Interesting item in the Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/20/snowfla...

From what I've seen, hard to argue with. This isn't a dig at the kids but the parents. My nephew is 16 yet still gets driven everywhere - I was riding a bike from A to B at 13, so at what point does he begin making his own way from place to place?

I look at friend's kids, some out of uni, who seem to have immediately returned to the womb that is their bedroom in the parental home, seemingly never to be seen again. No interest in relationships, careers (beyond a job that keeps them in the latest phone and computer game) or even really going out of the house.

It's not all kids certainly, and mollycoddled kids have always been amongst us. But it is beginning to feel like an epidemic...

Triumph Man

8,705 posts

169 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Seems more prevalent now than when I finished A levels, and that was only 2009!

WolfieBot

2,111 posts

188 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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There's nothing remotely newsworthy about an adult putting down the generation after their own.

Randy Winkman

16,210 posts

190 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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WolfieBot said:
There's nothing remotely newsworthy about an adult putting down the generation after their own.
Exactly - but it's the Daily Telegraph, whose modus operandi is to tell us how things were better in the old days.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Ari said:
Interesting item in the Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/20/snowfla...

From what I've seen, hard to argue with. This isn't a dig at the kids but the parents. My nephew is 16 yet still gets driven everywhere - I was riding a bike from A to B at 13, so at what point does he begin making his own way from place to place?

I look at friend's kids, some out of uni, who seem to have immediately returned to the womb that is their bedroom in the parental home, seemingly never to be seen again. No interest in relationships, careers (beyond a job that keeps them in the latest phone and computer game) or even really going out of the house.

It's not all kids certainly, and mollycoddled kids have always been amongst us. But it is beginning to feel like an epidemic...
I remember I and most of my schoolmates were walking to school from the age of 6. One of my friends at the time had his parents move house, basically from 1/2 mile South of the school to 3/4 mile North. So he walked to school from one house and walked to the new house after school. Unthinkable now.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Randy Winkman said:
WolfieBot said:
There's nothing remotely newsworthy about an adult putting down the generation after their own.
Exactly - but it's the Daily Telegraph, whose modus operandi is to tell us how things were better in the old days.
No wonder every generations mental health gets progressively worse.


Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Randy Winkman said:
Exactly - but it's the Daily Telegraph, whose modus operandi is to tell us how things were better in the old days.
It was also on the BBC News website yesterday; the above sentiment doesn't strike me as their modus operandi.

Edited by Europa1 on Wednesday 21st February 13:24

poo at Paul's

14,162 posts

176 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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I agree, but the technological advancements in things like phones, social media etc in the last 10 years have caused a huge increase in the numbers of a breed of no gump 'ginas that we share our planet with. laugh

I jest, but social media has had a massive large impact of the perceptions and actions of it's frequenters and will continue to do so. As the level of users increases with time and ageing of the population that use it, more will be influenced by it, but the disparity between older and younger people will reduce, as older people will be more immersed in it than they are now, generally.

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

155 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Randy Winkman said:
Exactly - but it's the Daily Telegraph, whose modus operandi is to tell us how things were better in the old days.
They were.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

159 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Ari said:
I look at friend's kids, some out of uni, who seem to have immediately returned to the womb that is their bedroom in the parental home, seemingly never to be seen again. No interest in relationships, careers (beyond a job that keeps them in the latest phone and computer game) or even really going out of the house.
GF's son- finished university, has no interest in even applying for any job below middle management, can't be bothered to learn to drive, ensconces himself in his room or his GF's room, seems to come out only to get food from the fridge or borrow a few quid from his mother.
Pointing anything out to him results in a statement that I (or his mother) just don't understand. He also points out that Corbyn will cure all the problems whereby he's not bothering to make anything of his life.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

220 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Dr Jekyll said:
I remember I and most of my schoolmates were walking to school from the age of 6. One of my friends at the time had his parents move house, basically from 1/2 mile South of the school to 3/4 mile North. So he walked to school from one house and walked to the new house after school. Unthinkable now.
Same here. I regularly walked home on my own at age 6/7. When my parents divorced and we moved in with my nan - that was around 1 mile - through a local park and across at least one main road.

I never got a lift to school and was regularly roaming 3-5 miles from home at weekends and summer holidays. Did this right through secondary school back in the mid to late 1980s.

The odd thing is though - it’s not a parental generational thing. My brother is 8 years younger than me - but my mum was always far more protective of him and wouldnt let him roam with anything like the freedom I did. He wasnt allowed as far from home and was walked to school every day until attending secondary school.

There seemed to be a step change in attitude around the end of the 1980s.

Edited by Moonhawk on Wednesday 21st February 13:38

andy_s

19,410 posts

260 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Funkycoldribena said:
Randy Winkman said:
Exactly - but it's the Daily Telegraph, whose modus operandi is to tell us how things were better in the old days.
They were.
Well, apart from the rickets... smile

Mr. White

1,034 posts

105 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Funkycoldribena said:
They were.
To an extent.

The 90's/early 00's was IMO the best balanced society. Before that was too chaotic/capitalist/corrupt, after that too authoritarian.


Ari

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19,352 posts

216 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Rovinghawk said:
GF's son- finished university, has no interest in even applying for any job below middle management, can't be bothered to learn to drive, ensconces himself in his room or his GF's room, seems to come out only to get food from the fridge or borrow a few quid from his mother.
Pointing anything out to him results in a statement that I (or his mother) just don't understand. He also points out that Corbyn will cure all the problems whereby he's not bothering to make anything of his life.
The driving is an interesting one. Apparently (and I can't find them unfortunately - I had a quick look) annual driving test numbers have plummeted! When I was 17 the race was on to see who could pass their test and get a car first. I actually can't think of many people under 20 who have passed their test, much less bought a car.

z4RRSchris

11,334 posts

180 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Rovinghawk said:
He also points out that Corbyn will cure all the problems whereby he's not bothering to make anything of his life.
smile

Ari

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Wednesday 21st February 2018
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WolfieBot said:
There's nothing remotely newsworthy about an adult putting down the generation after their own.
So you feel nothing's changed then? Young adults today are no different to young adults of 25 years ago, 50 years ago - it's just a matter of perspective?

andy_s

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260 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Rovinghawk said:
He also points out that Corbyn will cure all the problems whereby he's not bothering to make anything of his life.
Don't worry, going by statistics he won't bother voting.

Ari

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216 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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z4RRSchris said:
Rovinghawk said:
He also points out that Corbyn will cure all the problems whereby he's not bothering to make anything of his life.
smile
And anyway, it's all the Tories fault, them and the baby boomers stole his future?

Vaud

50,644 posts

156 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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I think education and access to learning is much better now... though frankly I don't think the use of social media is good for teenagers (well <16)

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

159 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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A while back I went to the 'Ring. When I offered a couple of teens the chance to come with I heard "No point- I've driven it on a Playstation and can do it faster than you'll manage".

No concept of the real world, its risks & rewards.