Stormzy’s attack on TM, justified or not?
Discussion
Red 4 said:
So does Damon Albarn. Apparently.
I didn't know half of the "musicians" on the show.
It would have been much better if Liam Gallagher had punched Albarn squarely in the face to shut him up.
That's proper entertainment, that is. And Albarn is a t
t. Always has been.
Ha ha he really did make a tI didn't know half of the "musicians" on the show.
It would have been much better if Liam Gallagher had punched Albarn squarely in the face to shut him up.
That's proper entertainment, that is. And Albarn is a t
t. Always has been.t of himself.He's totally out of order placing any blame at TM's feet. The falsity and hypocrisy of politicised musicians/singers/shouts though, it really is funny. It's a load of bks. Get on with singing your songs, or simply talking them as Stormylad does, and keep your political statements to yourself because you're all full of st.
ks. Get on with singing your songs, or simply talking them as Stormylad does, and keep your political statements to yourself because you're all full of st. chrispmartha said:
anonymous said:
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Not a fan of speech then?t! If he was put in front of TM and asked to explain to her why he thinks she bears responsibility for Grenfell he'd have no clue.
Damon Albarn too, just f
k off. 
garagewidow said:
Ian Geary said:
Pesty said:
He’s playing to his target ordinance.
When did Teresa may call people who lived there savages?
I assumed he used the word "savages" because it rhymed with "damages"....When did Teresa may call people who lived there savages?
Which I suppose is quite clever.
Ian
Also the residents of grenfall got quite a good deal out of it, have you seen the government documents on the money raised (26 million quid) and the handsome funds dished out to those injured, something silly like 30k if you were more than 7 days in hospital. And this f
ker has the cheek to suggest no money cane their way.I dont expect the government to lower themselves to the mud slinging lefties but they should at least stand up for themselves and correct the nonsense and blatent lies.
Leicester Loyal said:
Nevemind all the donations and legal aid they've had. Let's not also discuss the massive homes they have each been given.
Trying to portray himself as some sort of modern day saviour. Arse.
No, actually let's discuss stuff.Trying to portray himself as some sort of modern day saviour. Arse.
Any pics of these massive homes, and are they permanent or temporary?
Why were they granted Legal Aid, that's not usually done on a whim, is it?
Leicester Loyal said:
Nevemind all the donations and legal aid they've had. Let's not also discuss the massive homes they have each been given.
Trying to portray himself as some sort of modern day saviour. Arse.
Did the donations get to the victims?Trying to portray himself as some sort of modern day saviour. Arse.
Why were they given Legal Aid? Was it because they had to take on a council that doesn't want to rehouse them back in the area?
Where are these massive homes you speak of on the video it shows some being rehoused in flats.
So you'd be happy & feeling grateful after nearly being burnt alive & then being rehoused away from the area you know would you?
The inquiry is still ongoing, so no, it hasn't been forgotten about.
Approx £60m of funds has been allocated to the survivors.
The tenants can hardly complain about being relocated from a flat into another flat.
If the local council had enough spare properties to instantly house all the survivors within their postcode then serious questions would be raised as to why so many council properties were previously left empty.
Stormzy (Michael Omari) is endorsed by Corbyn, therefore all his arguments are invalid.
Approx £60m of funds has been allocated to the survivors.
The tenants can hardly complain about being relocated from a flat into another flat.
If the local council had enough spare properties to instantly house all the survivors within their postcode then serious questions would be raised as to why so many council properties were previously left empty.
Stormzy (Michael Omari) is endorsed by Corbyn, therefore all his arguments are invalid.
It may seem ignorant of me to say but if I was in his position, I wouldn’t get involved in politics.
What happened is awful, somebody does need to be held accountable and it can’t just be brushed under the carpet but as a entertainer (that’s what he is), literally nobody wants to hear that st, I listen to music to doze off and think of unlikely scenario’s depending on the song. To hear stories in the song or whatever, I don’t want to listen to a 22 year old call out the prime minster!
In my opinion, once you become an entertainer, i.e singer, actor, comedian or a sportsperson, I think you lose all credibility to me, Stormzy himself raps about all sorts of things from selling drugs to killing people (catching bodies) and even if it’s in the name of entertainment, it voids anything you have to say in politics, sorry but that’s how I feel.
What happened is awful, somebody does need to be held accountable and it can’t just be brushed under the carpet but as a entertainer (that’s what he is), literally nobody wants to hear that s
t, I listen to music to doze off and think of unlikely scenario’s depending on the song. To hear stories in the song or whatever, I don’t want to listen to a 22 year old call out the prime minster!In my opinion, once you become an entertainer, i.e singer, actor, comedian or a sportsperson, I think you lose all credibility to me, Stormzy himself raps about all sorts of things from selling drugs to killing people (catching bodies) and even if it’s in the name of entertainment, it voids anything you have to say in politics, sorry but that’s how I feel.
Christ Im going to sound like some 20something urban yoof sjw here but...
1. If you can't get that Blinded by Your Grace is a stand out song then Im not sure you had your ears open. And I say that as someone who more or less regards decent music as stopping when Freddie died.
2. The PM was used as merely a lightning rod for The Establishment. That is fairly standard fare.
3. If you heard any of his interview with Jo Whiley, then it easily obvious that he is well read, possesses a wide lexicon and quick witted to make use of it.
4. Music/popular culture has ALWAYS been a/the pop-off value for the younger generation to aim their shots at the Establishment. Its a free shot, open goal, echo chamber shout. Its also incredibly safe for both those offering the shots and those being aimed at. Its completely in the no harm-no foul rules of the game as it follows the conventions from both sides and leaves everyone happy.
5. Although the PM as an Establishment figure is a generic shot, the use of TM explicitly is also politically viable as she has frequently stated that her main interest in domestic politics is housing - or rather lack of it. Because she is so brutally weak though, her own political agenda has been reduced to half a paragraph on page 11 in The Sun - whilst she dances to the Brexit tune of BoGoMog.
Being someone who believes that a govt's job list should start: A. defend the nation, B: educate the nation, C: house the nation, I have no problem with someone putting a shot across the bows of a PM who allegedly has that as her number 1 priority.
Hell - anybody who has any of those as their number 1 priority, and frankly you can throw in transport the nation, power the nation and water the bloody nation, is well and truely entitled to feel somewhat less than enthusiastic at the current situation!
To anybody who seems to think the correct rebuttal to the above is: But Corbyn!! - I can only offer my own response: Dont be an arse.
Jezza is never getting into govt, in this Parliament, life or the next. Which of course only damns the current embodiment of the Tory party even more. They have a free shot at governing the country and to say they are making a dogs dinner of it would be insulting the nutritious properties of Pedigree Chum!
This govt is a shower and I have little sympathy with TM even though I think she is probably one of the Good Guys, etc. Either step up or bugger off luv, because wearing the big girl panties is the job.
1. If you can't get that Blinded by Your Grace is a stand out song then Im not sure you had your ears open. And I say that as someone who more or less regards decent music as stopping when Freddie died.
2. The PM was used as merely a lightning rod for The Establishment. That is fairly standard fare.
3. If you heard any of his interview with Jo Whiley, then it easily obvious that he is well read, possesses a wide lexicon and quick witted to make use of it.
4. Music/popular culture has ALWAYS been a/the pop-off value for the younger generation to aim their shots at the Establishment. Its a free shot, open goal, echo chamber shout. Its also incredibly safe for both those offering the shots and those being aimed at. Its completely in the no harm-no foul rules of the game as it follows the conventions from both sides and leaves everyone happy.
5. Although the PM as an Establishment figure is a generic shot, the use of TM explicitly is also politically viable as she has frequently stated that her main interest in domestic politics is housing - or rather lack of it. Because she is so brutally weak though, her own political agenda has been reduced to half a paragraph on page 11 in The Sun - whilst she dances to the Brexit tune of BoGoMog.
Being someone who believes that a govt's job list should start: A. defend the nation, B: educate the nation, C: house the nation, I have no problem with someone putting a shot across the bows of a PM who allegedly has that as her number 1 priority.
Hell - anybody who has any of those as their number 1 priority, and frankly you can throw in transport the nation, power the nation and water the bloody nation, is well and truely entitled to feel somewhat less than enthusiastic at the current situation!
To anybody who seems to think the correct rebuttal to the above is: But Corbyn!! - I can only offer my own response: Dont be an arse.
Jezza is never getting into govt, in this Parliament, life or the next. Which of course only damns the current embodiment of the Tory party even more. They have a free shot at governing the country and to say they are making a dogs dinner of it would be insulting the nutritious properties of Pedigree Chum!
This govt is a shower and I have little sympathy with TM even though I think she is probably one of the Good Guys, etc. Either step up or bugger off luv, because wearing the big girl panties is the job.
DeejRC said:
Christ Im going to sound like some 20something urban yoof sjw here but...
1. If you can't get that Blinded by Your Grace is a stand out song then Im not sure you had your ears open. And I say that as someone who more or less regards decent music as stopping when Freddie died.
2. The PM was used as merely a lightning rod for The Establishment. That is fairly standard fare.
3. If you heard any of his interview with Jo Whiley, then it easily obvious that he is well read, possesses a wide lexicon and quick witted to make use of it.
4. Music/popular culture has ALWAYS been a/the pop-off value for the younger generation to aim their shots at the Establishment. Its a free shot, open goal, echo chamber shout. Its also incredibly safe for both those offering the shots and those being aimed at. Its completely in the no harm-no foul rules of the game as it follows the conventions from both sides and leaves everyone happy.
5. Although the PM as an Establishment figure is a generic shot, the use of TM explicitly is also politically viable as she has frequently stated that her main interest in domestic politics is housing - or rather lack of it. Because she is so brutally weak though, her own political agenda has been reduced to half a paragraph on page 11 in The Sun - whilst she dances to the Brexit tune of BoGoMog.
Being someone who believes that a govt's job list should start: A. defend the nation, B: educate the nation, C: house the nation, I have no problem with someone putting a shot across the bows of a PM who allegedly has that as her number 1 priority.
Hell - anybody who has any of those as their number 1 priority, and frankly you can throw in transport the nation, power the nation and water the bloody nation, is well and truely entitled to feel somewhat less than enthusiastic at the current situation!
To anybody who seems to think the correct rebuttal to the above is: But Corbyn!! - I can only offer my own response: Dont be an arse.
Jezza is never getting into govt, in this Parliament, life or the next. Which of course only damns the current embodiment of the Tory party even more. They have a free shot at governing the country and to say they are making a dogs dinner of it would be insulting the nutritious properties of Pedigree Chum!
This govt is a shower and I have little sympathy with TM even though I think she is probably one of the Good Guys, etc. Either step up or bugger off luv, because wearing the big girl panties is the job.
An excellent post.1. If you can't get that Blinded by Your Grace is a stand out song then Im not sure you had your ears open. And I say that as someone who more or less regards decent music as stopping when Freddie died.
2. The PM was used as merely a lightning rod for The Establishment. That is fairly standard fare.
3. If you heard any of his interview with Jo Whiley, then it easily obvious that he is well read, possesses a wide lexicon and quick witted to make use of it.
4. Music/popular culture has ALWAYS been a/the pop-off value for the younger generation to aim their shots at the Establishment. Its a free shot, open goal, echo chamber shout. Its also incredibly safe for both those offering the shots and those being aimed at. Its completely in the no harm-no foul rules of the game as it follows the conventions from both sides and leaves everyone happy.
5. Although the PM as an Establishment figure is a generic shot, the use of TM explicitly is also politically viable as she has frequently stated that her main interest in domestic politics is housing - or rather lack of it. Because she is so brutally weak though, her own political agenda has been reduced to half a paragraph on page 11 in The Sun - whilst she dances to the Brexit tune of BoGoMog.
Being someone who believes that a govt's job list should start: A. defend the nation, B: educate the nation, C: house the nation, I have no problem with someone putting a shot across the bows of a PM who allegedly has that as her number 1 priority.
Hell - anybody who has any of those as their number 1 priority, and frankly you can throw in transport the nation, power the nation and water the bloody nation, is well and truely entitled to feel somewhat less than enthusiastic at the current situation!
To anybody who seems to think the correct rebuttal to the above is: But Corbyn!! - I can only offer my own response: Dont be an arse.
Jezza is never getting into govt, in this Parliament, life or the next. Which of course only damns the current embodiment of the Tory party even more. They have a free shot at governing the country and to say they are making a dogs dinner of it would be insulting the nutritious properties of Pedigree Chum!
This govt is a shower and I have little sympathy with TM even though I think she is probably one of the Good Guys, etc. Either step up or bugger off luv, because wearing the big girl panties is the job.
loose cannon said:
Still I’d rather listen to T than some chav who raps about coke being snorted of his cock by one of his moped gang friends,
No dought mi5 or similar will catch him out for having guns and drugs and we can all say fk you bitc
Just a hunch, but I don’t think Stormzy and his music are aimed at you...No dought mi5 or similar will catch him out for having guns and drugs and we can all say f
k you bitchttps://youtu.be/IkI9h7EGYvI
garagewidow said:
Ian Geary said:
Pesty said:
He’s playing to his target ordinance.
When did Teresa may call people who lived there savages?
I assumed he used the word "savages" because it rhymed with "damages"....When did Teresa may call people who lived there savages?
Which I suppose is quite clever.
Ian
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