Vanquish Fuse 15/22

Vanquish Fuse 15/22

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moveover

Original Poster:

345 posts

163 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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I know there's no such thing as Fuse 15 or 22 in the Vanquish, but has anyone managed to rig up something that keeps the exhaust valves always open?

tonyhall38

4,194 posts

216 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Sport button.....

Chamboy

109 posts

132 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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In order to try and defeat the multi- circuit Fuse 51 on the Big V, I asked my dealer to disconnect and block off the vacuum hoses to the valves - hence permanently open..on "lesser" (only meaning non-8 speed boxed) cars this might lead to some droning at cruising speeds. However with the ultra-high 7th and 8th speeds this is really not a problem, even at brisk speeds on the Continent.

In the mountains, the sound, with decats, is truly epic 😎😎

Maybe worth a try - virtually cost free!

Cheers

Andy

M5MarkM

1,555 posts

171 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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NO need on Vanquish. You can simply select "sport always on" in the menu so the valves are always open at all times, even on start up

steveway

894 posts

84 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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that's a shame its not on the vantage as well, would save me pushing that button every time I get in

hashluck

1,612 posts

275 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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steveway said:
that's a shame its not on the vantage as well, would save me pushing that button every time I get in
tt was on my 2015MY V8 S but Sport mode on Vantage is a bit different I think in terms of when the valves open

moveover

Original Poster:

345 posts

163 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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Thanks all, but the Sport button does not keep the valves open all the time; they are still programmed to open at about 2,000 revs.

M5MarkM

1,555 posts

171 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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moveover said:
Thanks all, but the Sport button does not keep the valves open all the time; they are still programmed to open at about 2,000 revs.
Not sure where that comes from? What year Vanquish you talking about? If you mean gen 2 then my Vanquish then Vanquish S leave the valves open all the time at all revs when set to sport. Maybe you mean gen1?

As per video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-3g6l05daQ


AMVSVNick

6,997 posts

162 months

Wednesday 9th May 2018
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M5MarkM said:
moveover said:
Thanks all, but the Sport button does not keep the valves open all the time; they are still programmed to open at about 2,000 revs.
Not sure where that comes from? What year Vanquish you talking about? If you mean gen 2 then my Vanquish then Vanquish S leave the valves open all the time at all revs when set to sport. Maybe you mean gen1?
Hi Mark,

Are you sure this is correct? Even in sport mode my valves do not open between circa 1000 - 3000 rpm.

Nick

AMVSVNick

6,997 posts

162 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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BUMP

ajk9

43 posts

105 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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I have a 13 year Vanquish and there is a small flat spot under 2700, even if you have the Sport button enabled (never off in mine).

What I did to compensate this was get the straight pipes from the Vanquish S fitted to it in place of the secondary cat, which makes the initial sound a lot louder, and then also anything north of 2700 sounds terrific, night and day difference.

Whilst it won't help fix the flat spot issue, it no longer bothers me like it did before. It's something I'd highly recommend.

AMVSVNick

6,997 posts

162 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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ajk9 said:
I have a 13 year Vanquish and there is a small flat spot under 2700, even if you have the Sport button enabled (never off in mine).

What I did to compensate this was get the straight pipes from the Vanquish S fitted to it in place of the secondary cat, which makes the initial sound a lot louder, and then also anything north of 2700 sounds terrific, night and day difference.

Whilst it won't help fix the flat spot issue, it no longer bothers me like it did before. It's something I'd highly recommend.
Thank you.

Mine is an S and you are exactly right, the flat spot is just around 2700 rpm

PantsFire

519 posts

80 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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I have a long single track road near me that I can play around with the throttle, you can definitely hear the change from closed to open in Sport mode at around 2000 in my 2013 Vanquish. I'd love for Sport to be truly 'always open'.

ajk9

43 posts

105 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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A full decat would do the trick smile

My old 4.7 V8 Vantage had a similar flat spot and pulling fuse 22 eliminated that. The valve control still works on mine with the secondary cats replaced, so whatever is controlling the valve is either in the primary cat or further towards the engine.

BamfordMike

1,192 posts

157 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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ajk9 said:
A full decat would do the trick smile

My old 4.7 V8 Vantage had a similar flat spot and pulling fuse 22 eliminated that. The valve control still works on mine with the secondary cats replaced, so whatever is controlling the valve is either in the primary cat or further towards the engine.
The 8 speed vanquish has a torque restriction programmed in for gears 2 & 3 across the entire rev range, is it possible the flat spot being noticed is reaching said torque limit at 2700 rpm which is then held throughout the acceleration in those gears? Does the same flatspot occur in gears 3+?

Either way, bespoke control of the exhaust valve in any mode, removal of torque restriction in gears 2 & 3 (set @ 500Nm gear 2 and 550Nm gear 3) and pedal progression remap will no doubt return the desired exhaust note at any speed / mode and cure the flatspot.

And yeah, a primary decat and porting across of AMR V12 mapping or bespoke mapping to suit new hardware will be the sweet spot for 8spd Vanquish


tonyhall38

4,194 posts

216 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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Ye.....what he said.....

Personally like mine as is.....

PantsFire

519 posts

80 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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This is what we need, I think combining Sports Cats and Activalve I can get loud when I want to: https://www.larinisystems.com/collection/aston-mar...

BamfordMike

1,192 posts

157 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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PantsFire said:
This is what we need, I think combining Sports Cats and Activalve I can get loud when I want to: https://www.larinisystems.com/collection/aston-mar...
If keeping primary cats, high flow secondary cats (sports cats) are pointless, might as well fit secondary decat pipes (std spec on GT12 and AMR)
If removing primary cats, only then are highflow secondary cats worthwhile / needed.
For either of those mods a remote device like you refer to is ok, but it only delivers a fully loud mode or normal switching mode. It’s a lot neater solution to reprogram the ECU to deliver the exhaust valve strategy tailored to individual taste using the Sport button.
But certainly, if all that was wanted was a quick / dirty override to make exhaust note loud, the remote switch is effective and cheap, clearly doesn’t solve the niggle of being robbed 150ish NM in gears 2+3 though


M5MarkM

1,555 posts

171 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Hmmm well I didn't know that... to be fair with my Vanq and Vanq S I'd only had both a day before getting Decat pipes fitted... so guess I've never had the valves for more than one day!

AMVSVNick

6,997 posts

162 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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M5MarkM said:
Hmmm well I didn't know that... to be fair with my Vanq and Vanq S I'd only had both a day before getting Decat pipes fitted... so guess I've never had the valves for more than one day!
Hi Mark,

Vanq S doesn't have secondary cats so I assume you mean primary cats?