Major incident at Salisbury District Hospital

Major incident at Salisbury District Hospital

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Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Oakey said:
Not to mention different scuff marks on the camera lens / dome
Yep. These are the sort of images produced from a camera inside one of those smoked protective domes. Nobody thinks to clean the damn things.

ApOrbital

9,966 posts

119 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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They will both be found dead soon.

aeropilot

34,680 posts

228 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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ApOrbital said:
They will both be found dead soon.
They'll more likely never be found, alive or dead.


krisdelta

4,566 posts

202 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Apologies I've not read the whole thread - but if it's accepted by multiple governments that Russia as a nation has used a weapon of mass destruction against another nation, what possible rational response to this is there?

It's unthinkable that simply a spot of account freezing "sanction" for a handful of people goes anywhere near far enough.

Knock out a few pipelines and let them remember how cold their winters are? Putin slipping down some stairs? A run on the ruple and wipe out their economy for the next 5 years?


Glade

4,268 posts

224 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Did I read correctly that the homeless couple who got poisoned found the "perfume" in a box, in a charity bin??

Pretty sick of the assassins to dispose of the stuff in a charity drop-off!!! 100% sure someone would handle the contents when sorted and potentially re-distributed.

Just imagine if a charity distribution centre had this spilled on other items!

GarageQueen

2,295 posts

247 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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krisdelta said:
Apologies I've not read the whole thread - but if it's accepted by multiple governments that Russia as a nation has used a weapon of mass destruction against another nation, what possible rational response to this is there?

It's unthinkable that simply a spot of account freezing "sanction" for a handful of people goes anywhere near far enough.

Knock out a few pipelines and let them remember how cold their winters are? Putin slipping down some stairs? A run on the ruple and wipe out their economy for the next 5 years?
agreed the response has been very light in my view, they killed one of our citizens with a WMD FFS!

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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I wonder what the repercussions would be if we sent a couple of agents into Russia to kill the suspected poisoners?


egor110

16,893 posts

204 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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krisdelta said:
Apologies I've not read the whole thread - but if it's accepted by multiple governments that Russia as a nation has used a weapon of mass destruction against another nation, what possible rational response to this is there?

It's unthinkable that simply a spot of account freezing "sanction" for a handful of people goes anywhere near far enough.

Knock out a few pipelines and let them remember how cold their winters are? Putin slipping down some stairs? A run on the ruple and wipe out their economy for the next 5 years?
Don't Russia supply most of our oil ?

deckster

9,630 posts

256 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Ayahuasca said:
I wonder what the repercussions would be if we sent a couple of agents into Russia to kill the suspected poisoners?
The Daily Mash has already called this one I'm afraid.

Gareth79

7,687 posts

247 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Glade said:
Did I read correctly that the homeless couple who got poisoned found the "perfume" in a box, in a charity bin??

Pretty sick of the assassins to dispose of the stuff in a charity drop-off!!! 100% sure someone would handle the contents when sorted and potentially re-distributed.

Just imagine if a charity distribution centre had this spilled on other items!
Doing a bit of googling, it was likely a waste bin behind a charity shop, not a donation bin. Still, most business waste is sorted so it could have contaminated numerous people.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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just kick out all the dodgy Russian billionaires in London that should get a reaction.

Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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The Russians lie so often they've completely lost all track of what's true and what isn't.

Their ambassador is doing a sterling job at the UN right now.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Cobnapint said:
The Russians lie so often they've completely lost all track of what's true and what isn't.

Their ambassador is doing a sterling job at the UN right now.
Im interested what they will do. the sanctions/response needs to be greatly escalated.

krisdelta

4,566 posts

202 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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egor110 said:
krisdelta said:
Apologies I've not read the whole thread - but if it's accepted by multiple governments that Russia as a nation has used a weapon of mass destruction against another nation, what possible rational response to this is there?

It's unthinkable that simply a spot of account freezing "sanction" for a handful of people goes anywhere near far enough.

Knock out a few pipelines and let them remember how cold their winters are? Putin slipping down some stairs? A run on the ruple and wipe out their economy for the next 5 years?
Don't Russia supply most of our oil ?
5% of our crude oil and a rounding error of our Gas. Source: ONS: https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/environmentalaccoun...


anonymous-user

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55 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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ApOrbital said:
They will both be found dead soon.
It's probably more likely they will be promoted.

Look what happened to Dmitry Kovtun and Andrei Lugovoy. They managed to poison Litvinenko, but were comprehensively and easily identified as the perpetrators, and managed to spill Polnium all over a city and an aircraft.

They have both gone on to have very agreeable careers, and Lugovoy was given a medal.

Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Burwood said:
Im interested what they will do. the sanctions/response needs to be greatly escalated.
Escalating it will give the perception that you weren't quite sure when you originally implemented sanctions.

I don't think any further action will be taken. The meeting at the UN just rubber stamps proceedings and the incident will go down on the ever growing list of Russian overseas belligerent activity.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Cobnapint said:
Burwood said:
Im interested what they will do. the sanctions/response needs to be greatly escalated.
Escalating it will give the perception that you weren't quite sure when you originally implemented sanctions.

I don't think any further action will be taken. The meeting at the UN just rubber stamps proceedings and the incident will go down on the ever growing list of Russian overseas belligerent activity.
I think it's time the Russian elite were kicked out. Out of our Universities(their kids).

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Cobnapint said:
Escalating it will give the perception that you weren't quite sure when you originally implemented sanctions.

I don't think any further action will be taken. The meeting at the UN just rubber stamps proceedings and the incident will go down on the ever growing list of Russian overseas belligerent activity.
I think your spot on .We will have a bit of background noise for a while and then the hope is it will just go away because in reality there is little we can do and Russia know this and really don't think we are strong enough to do anything about it.

Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Tass gain reports the Russian state's claim that they've never made these chemical weapons. Which says to me me that, if they can tell that whopper without embarrassment, don't expect anything other than dissembling on any 'lesser' point.

It will be interesting to see if Bellingcat or some of the other Net sleuths can find these guys from other online footprints.


Burwood said:
I think it's time the Russian elite were kicked out. Out of our Universities(their kids).
Punishing children for the sins of their fathers, eh? Wonder if that'll ever catch on anywhere other than North Korea...

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Escapegoat said:
Tass gain reports the Russian state's claim that they've never made these chemical weapons.
weapons are irrelevant at this point, they should find these two blokes and extradite them to UK but I doubt that will happen