Tommy Robinson attacked at McDonald’s
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Wobbegong said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5486557/To...
http://metro.co.uk/2018/03/11/tommy-robinson-knock...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tom...
Hard to tell if it is real, looks like a mid-range Steven Seagal film
Seems like he is getting what he deserves.http://metro.co.uk/2018/03/11/tommy-robinson-knock...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tom...
Hard to tell if it is real, looks like a mid-range Steven Seagal film
johnwilliams77 said:
Wobbegong said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5486557/To...
http://metro.co.uk/2018/03/11/tommy-robinson-knock...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tom...
Hard to tell if it is real, looks like a mid-range Steven Seagal film
Seems like he is getting what he deserves.http://metro.co.uk/2018/03/11/tommy-robinson-knock...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tom...
Hard to tell if it is real, looks like a mid-range Steven Seagal film
ReverendCounter said:
Why would immigrants have an issue with being filmed?
Let's assume they're law abiding and looking for work. Wouldn't you, for instance, try to use the opportunity of a camera crew appearing to show just that? Prove that you're trustworthy, decent, honest and not a threat?
Or would you challenge them, kick off and lunge at them whilst making death threats?
And for the apologists, what was to stop the guy making the death threats from just walking away? Or ignoring the crew and not taking part?
Who knows why they don't want to be filmed. I doubt I'd want to be filmed repeatedly if I were in their position though.Let's assume they're law abiding and looking for work. Wouldn't you, for instance, try to use the opportunity of a camera crew appearing to show just that? Prove that you're trustworthy, decent, honest and not a threat?
Or would you challenge them, kick off and lunge at them whilst making death threats?
And for the apologists, what was to stop the guy making the death threats from just walking away? Or ignoring the crew and not taking part?
It doesn't explain why its apparently okay for Robinson to threaten to knock someone out just for touching the camera though. He's trying to show how appalling their behaviour is, but immediately stoops to their level.
Boydie88 said:
BlackLabel said:
A few days earlier he had attacked someone in Italy. Granted the other guy was being mouthy however TR’s reaction was completely disproportionate.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_BNP2y7ELus
Disproportionate to being told to watch out for your life by the guy who kept following him? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_BNP2y7ELus
The camera woman was assaulted too.
Meanwhile 3 conservative activists were barred from entering the country in the last 2 days for little more than 'wrong think'... this while we have a supposed right wing government.
rscott said:
Who knows why they don't want to be filmed. I doubt I'd want to be filmed repeatedly if I were in their position though.
It doesn't explain why its apparently okay for Robinson to threaten to knock someone out just for touching the camera though. He's trying to show how appalling their behaviour is, but immediately stoops to their level.
Have you seen what some of these migrants have done in Italy in recent times ? If some unknown nut job starts making knifing gestures to me then I would do exactly what Robinson did and ask question later .It doesn't explain why its apparently okay for Robinson to threaten to knock someone out just for touching the camera though. He's trying to show how appalling their behaviour is, but immediately stoops to their level.
ninjacost said:
rscott said:
Who knows why they don't want to be filmed. I doubt I'd want to be filmed repeatedly if I were in their position though.
It doesn't explain why its apparently okay for Robinson to threaten to knock someone out just for touching the camera though. He's trying to show how appalling their behaviour is, but immediately stoops to their level.
Have you seen what some of these migrants have done in Italy in recent times ? If some unknown nut job starts making knifing gestures to me then I would do exactly what Robinson did and ask question later .It doesn't explain why its apparently okay for Robinson to threaten to knock someone out just for touching the camera though. He's trying to show how appalling their behaviour is, but immediately stoops to their level.
rscott said:
It doesn't explain why its apparently okay for Robinson to threaten to knock someone out just for touching the camera though
It does, because much more than that was said, as you can very clearly hear and see.You do have the right to a proportionate response should you feel threatened, or should it seem that violence is imminent.
Robinson has the right, as do you, to prevent an attack on a colleague. Whether he uses forceful language or a single blow, he has the right to do that in the face of multiple death threats and ongoing assaults.
No action will be taken against him and this will prove it is perfectly OK to strike someone as he did, in those circumstances. Not for simply 'touching the camera' as that wasn't what happened - unless you were there and have first hand knowledge (no, thought you didn't).
ninjacost said:
rscott said:
Would you have threatened to knock them out first? That appeared to be what Robinson was doing.
If someone tried to take my property yes ,what would you do give him a kiss and hand it over ?:-)Then again, I'm neither a powerfully built director with a goatee nor a publicity hungry clown.
rscott said:
Personally, I'd probably have told them to leave it alone and then either back off, or place myself between the aggressor and the camera to block further contact. I doubt I'd threaten to deck them and get right in their face.
Then again, I'm neither a powerfully built director with a goatee nor a publicity hungry clown.
Good luck with that approach sunshine :-)Then again, I'm neither a powerfully built director with a goatee nor a publicity hungry clown.
ReverendCounter said:
rscott said:
It doesn't explain why its apparently okay for Robinson to threaten to knock someone out just for touching the camera though
It does, because much more than that was said, as you can very clearly hear and see.You do have the right to a proportionate response should you feel threatened, or should it seem that violence is imminent.
Robinson has the right, as do you, to prevent an attack on a colleague. Whether he uses forceful language or a single blow, he has the right to do that in the face of multiple death threats and ongoing assaults.
No action will be taken against him and this will prove it is perfectly OK to strike someone as he did, in those circumstances. Not for simply 'touching the camera' as that wasn't what happened - unless you were there and have first hand knowledge (no, thought you didn't).
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