Tommy Robinson attacked at McDonald’s

Tommy Robinson attacked at McDonald’s

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anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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wst said:
hy would a lefty support a cryptofascist?
I am obviously not explaining myself properly.

In my opinion F12's posts are a bit strange in that he starts out stating a case supporting TR then via a somewhat tortuous route admits he hadn't really researched anything and is, in fact wrong.


His arguments in general are so weak it's like he wants them to be comprehensively debunked.

So I was thinking he could be a troll who actually doesn't believe what he writes at all.
I am probably wrong.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Ahh, Richard Ayoade level of satire.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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https://www.scottishlegal.com/article/daily-record...

Can anybody explain why a news paper gets a fine yet tommy gets a suspended sentence, surely the author and editor should be in a cell

What they did was by far worse than what tommy did

wst

3,494 posts

162 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Aha, understood.

I lean to "genuine", just because it's been a lot of work for very few bites. Much easier on twitter etc. I think a troll misrepresenting views he opposes would have got bored by now... I'd hope.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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NoNeed said:
https://www.scottishlegal.com/article/daily-record...

Can anybody explain why a news paper gets a fine yet tommy gets a suspended sentence, surely the author and editor should be in a cell

What they did was by far worse than what tommy did
Sure, I can. It's deep state at work. They don't really care about putting muslamic paedophiles in jail, they just want to silence our Tommy!

https://tommyrobinson.online/support/


anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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NoNeed said:
https://www.scottishlegal.com/article/daily-record...

Can anybody explain why a news paper gets a fine yet tommy gets a suspended sentence, surely the author and editor should be in a cell

What they did was by far worse than what tommy did
It can be explained by this picture.


NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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I take that as a no then.

andy_s

19,421 posts

260 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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NoNeed said:
I take that as a no then.
Its pretty easy to figure out if you examine both cases.

e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

174 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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Looking at the numbers of deluded Americans (in various Youtube comments) looking to donate to TR, he and his team will be coining it in.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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NoNeed said:
https://www.scottishlegal.com/article/daily-record...

Can anybody explain why a news paper gets a fine yet tommy gets a suspended sentence, surely the author and editor should be in a cell

What they did was by far worse than what tommy did
Because Tommy/Unfair/fascists/islamics.

Take your pick.

ofcorsa

3,534 posts

244 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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Alpinestars said:
NoNeed said:
https://www.scottishlegal.com/article/daily-record...

Can anybody explain why a news paper gets a fine yet tommy gets a suspended sentence, surely the author and editor should be in a cell

What they did was by far worse than what tommy did
Because Tommy/Unfair/fascists/islamics.

Take your pick.
Is it because Tommy was jailed as he was on license for a previous offence?

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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andy_s said:
Its pretty easy to figure out if you examine both cases.
Go on then, enlighten me

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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ofcorsa said:
Is it because Tommy was jailed as he was on license for a previous offence?
Nice try, but read the question again. We are talking about the original offence

rscott

14,789 posts

192 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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NoNeed said:
Nice try, but read the question again. We are talking about the original offence
Could it be that the Scottish prosecution was of a limited company whereas TR was prosecuted as an individual?

Are Scottish contempt of court laws and sentencing guidelines the same as English?

Dindoit

1,645 posts

95 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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NoNeed said:
ofcorsa said:
Is it because Tommy was jailed as he was on license for a previous offence?
Nice try, but read the question again. We are talking about the original offence
The one where Tommy wasn’t punished but the newspaper got an £80k fine? You’re quite right Tommy got away very lightly there.


btw when you try and make a clever point try not to say “why wasn’t a newspaper sent to prison?”

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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NoNeed said:
https://www.scottishlegal.com/article/daily-record...

Can anybody explain why a news paper gets a fine yet tommy gets a suspended sentence, surely the author and editor should be in a cell

What they did was by far worse than what tommy did
1) A newspaper can't receive a suspended sentence.

2) Contempt by a newspaper is usually dealt with via a fine for the business, as opposed to going after the writer, editor, legal reps etc.

You can find plenty of examples of this online to support the consistent application of the law.

Did you not learn the first time about comparing 'like for like' with that stupid picture you posted? You'll need to spend some more time trying to find 'double standard' examples.

As to the exact reason why the editor's aren't pursued, I'm not sure, but then what's your point with that?

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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La Liga said:
) A newspaper can't receive a suspended sentence.

2) Contempt by a newspaper is usually dealt with via a fine for the business, as opposed to going after the writer, editor, legal reps etc.

You can find plenty of examples of this online to support the consistent application of the law.

Did you not learn the first time about comparing 'like for like' with that stupid picture you posted? You'll need to spend some more time trying to find 'double standard' examples.

As to the exact reason why the editor's aren't pursued, I'm not sure, but then what's your point with that?
Serious question....if TR worked for, or started his own, newspaper or similar then he would have been ok?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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alfie2244 said:
Serious question....if TR worked for, or started his own, newspaper or similar then he would have been ok?
I thought the same. The answer is I don't know. Perhaps BV or someone else with lots of legal knowledge can shed some light.

If I were to speculate, I imagine it's a question of scale (in terms of the newspaper being a large business and covering a range of matters), along with wanting to ensure that we punish the papers when they do wrong (the fines, negative publicity), but we don't make them too risk averse in their reporting by having the staff thinking they'll go to prison, unless there are repeat breaches. Articles going through a few hands before publishing may also spread the liability.





TTwiggy

11,552 posts

205 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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La Liga said:
thought the same. The answer is I don't know. Perhaps BV or someone else with lots of legal knowledge can shed some light.

If I were to speculate, I imagine it's a question of scale (in terms of the newspaper being a large business and covering a range of matters), along with wanting to ensure that we punish the papers when they do wrong (the fines, negative publicity), but we don't make them too risk averse in their reporting by having the staff thinking they'll go to prison, unless there are repeat breaches. Articles going through a few hands before publishing may also spread the liability.
I've never worked for a paper but I have worked for several magazines. Those that publish in an arena where legal issues might be a problem have sub editors with a degree of legal knowledge on the team and the option of 'kicking it upstairs' to the real lawyers if it's too complex/serious for the subs to deal with. As a result, when a mistake is made, there's probably a defence of due diligence - though many publications are still successfully sued of course.

andy_s

19,421 posts

260 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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NoNeed said:
andy_s said:
Its pretty easy to figure out if you examine both cases.
Go on then, enlighten me
That's the thing, no one can enlighten you, only you can do that young padowan.
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