How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 3)
Discussion
Burwood said:
p1stonhead said:
Vanden Saab said:
p1stonhead said:
Vanden Saab said:
Who was it who claimed to have had luncheon with the Lords and said they would never pass the Brexit bill? Even claiming they would see the house of lords abolished first? Just another successful stage completed that we have been told by the people who support remain would not happen. Just like all their other predictions both before and after the referendum have been wrong. Looking forward to seeing the end result of the successful negotiations now everything else is sorted.
You honestly think after the shambles of the last two years and with the same people in charge, this is possible?What is agreed?
What has been agreed? Details please. No stupid soundbytes.
p1stonhead said:
The Dangerous Elk said:
p1stonhead said:
More Brexiteer utter nonsence.
What has been agreed? Details please. No stupid soundbytes.
What is EVER "agreed" until the last day with the Eu ?What has been agreed? Details please. No stupid soundbytes.
p1stonhead said:
If you were the EU though wouldn’t you be thinking ‘how do we know this whole deal isn’t going to get voted down?’ ‘You don’t even know if your own side is going to vote on it or not’
It’s laughable from a negotiation standpoint
It's pretty normal for the Government to negotiate a position for Parliament to agree. Unless it's taking us further into the EU of course....It’s laughable from a negotiation standpoint
But really, this is a positive in some respects. If May had the numbers to get almost anything through and needed a deal to ensure she didn't get smashed at the next election, the EU would be more empowered to offer up a st-sandwich as it would go through Parliament.
As it is the EU have a choice between a sensible deal and no deal at all. Despite all the posturing the EU do not want there to be no deal either.
paulrockliffe said:
p1stonhead said:
If you were the EU though wouldn’t you be thinking ‘how do we know this whole deal isn’t going to get voted down?’ ‘You don’t even know if your own side is going to vote on it or not’
It’s laughable from a negotiation standpoint
It's pretty normal for the Government to negotiate a position for Parliament to agree. Unless it's taking us further into the EU of course....It’s laughable from a negotiation standpoint
But really, this is a positive in some respects. If May had the numbers to get almost anything through and needed a deal to ensure she didn't get smashed at the next election, the EU would be more empowered to offer up a st-sandwich as it would go through Parliament.
As it is the EU have a choice between a sensible deal and no deal at all. Despite all the posturing the EU do not want there to be no deal either.
- JUNCKER: EU TO BACK IRISH `EVERY STEP OF THE WAY'
- JUNCKER: U.K. PROPOSALS SHOW A CERTAIN WILLINGNESS
- JUNCKER: NO DEAL NOT LIKELY
- JUNCKER: NO BREXIT DEAL NOT LIKELY, BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE
- JUNCKER: WE NEED MORE ANSWERS FROM UK, FEWER NEW QUESTIONS
- JUNCKER: HARDEST PART OF BREXIT TALKS STILL TO COME
- JUNCKER; IT'S IRELAND FIRST IN BREXIT TALKS
- BOE WON'T CONSIDER REDUCING QE DEBT UNTIL BANK RATE HITS 1.5%
paulrockliffe said:
It's pretty normal for the Government to negotiate a position for Parliament to agree. Unless it's taking us further into the EU of course....
But really, this is a positive in some respects. If May had the numbers to get almost anything through and needed a deal to ensure she didn't get smashed at the next election, the EU would be more empowered to offer up a st-sandwich as it would go through Parliament.
As it is the EU have a choice between a sensible deal and no deal at all. Despite all the posturing the EU do not want there to be no deal either.
Very amusing, made me chuckle! But really, this is a positive in some respects. If May had the numbers to get almost anything through and needed a deal to ensure she didn't get smashed at the next election, the EU would be more empowered to offer up a st-sandwich as it would go through Parliament.
As it is the EU have a choice between a sensible deal and no deal at all. Despite all the posturing the EU do not want there to be no deal either.
Roboraver said:
So......still no solution to the N.I border issue brexiteers? 2 years now and counting, time is running out (still no plan from hmg), just stating facts, better get used to owning up to what you voted for,
A deal is, of course, the answer. Everyone agrees on that.In the absence of a deal, we’re not putting up a hard border. The EU might, but it’s hard to see that in real life, rather than Barnier’s mind. Ireland would suffer terribly.
Roboraver said:
So......still no solution to the N.I border issue brexiteers? 2 years now and counting, time is running out (still no plan from hmg), just stating facts, better get used to owning up to what you voted for,
They’ll never admit they were duped! That is the sad reality of brexit - the type that fell for it is also unlikely to admit their mistakes, which is a bit of a shame for the UK.
Roboraver said:
So......still no solution to the N.I border issue brexiteers? 2 years now and counting, time is running out (still no plan from hmg), just stating facts, better get used to owning up to what you voted for,
Did you finish your degree 6 months early? You must have one I am guessing...Gloria Slap said:
Roboraver said:
So......still no solution to the N.I border issue brexiteers? 2 years now and counting, time is running out (still no plan from hmg), just stating facts, better get used to owning up to what you voted for,
They’ll never admit they were duped! That is the sad reality of brexit - the type that fell for it is also unlikely to admit their mistakes, which is a bit of a shame for the UK.
Gloria Slap said:
They’ll never admit they were duped!
That is the sad reality of brexit - the type that fell for it is also unlikely to admit their mistakes, which is a bit of a shame for the UK.
To be perfectly honest I don't think 90% of the population give a flying fk about the NI border, or NI in general for that matter. It is an issue which matters to some in NI, many in RoI and the EU and HMG but not to people in general.That is the sad reality of brexit - the type that fell for it is also unlikely to admit their mistakes, which is a bit of a shame for the UK.
I doubt more than 2-3% of the GB residing population have even ever been to NI (which is a shame btw as it is really great).
Gloria Slap said:
Roboraver said:
So......still no solution to the N.I border issue brexiteers? 2 years now and counting, time is running out (still no plan from hmg), just stating facts, better get used to owning up to what you voted for,
They’ll never admit they were duped! That is the sad reality of brexit - the type that fell for it is also unlikely to admit their mistakes, which is a bit of a shame for the UK.
the EU would give a fk as long as the they can stick it to us naughty Brits they would see Hanging Ireland out to dry as slight collateral damage worth it for the Project..
powerstroke said:
I would say it might be a bit of shame for the UK but it would FUBAR the ROI however I doubt
the EU would give a fk as long as the they can stick it to us naughty Brits they would see Hanging Ireland out to dry as slight collateral damage worth it for the Project..
No, the UK voted to leave the EU, it is us that don't give a fk about Ireland and are hanging them out to dry.the EU would give a fk as long as the they can stick it to us naughty Brits they would see Hanging Ireland out to dry as slight collateral damage worth it for the Project..
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