Homeowner arrested for stabbing burglar

[BlackLabel]

Unless you really drop yourself in it at interview stage you can get away with almost anything when it comes to dealing with a burglar in your home. The law doesn't even require you to wait to be attacked before using (defensive) force.

[anonymous-user]

BoRED S2upid said:

I hope there is a que of the best lawyers we have waiting to defend this old boy and highlight what a farce arresting him was.

Qué?

[TooMany2cvs]

garyhun said:

BoRED S2upid said:

I hope there is a que of the best lawyers we have waiting to defend this old boy and highlight what a farce arresting him was.

Qué?

Shouldn't be hard to get it down to Man(uel)slaughter.

[Oakey]

Jordan210 said:

"Update - Metropolitan Police says a 78-year-old homeowner has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a man was stabbed and then later died during a burglary in Hither Green in southeast London"


Not sure how it can be Murder really

Perhaps the 'facts' aren't what he claims them to be?

[dudleybloke]

If the old boy gets prosecuted over this heads need to roll.

[fido]

Hither Green (not Walthamstow) - suburban jungle where dreams are made of.

[gazza285]

Arrested does not mean convicted.

[Fort Jefferson]

I feared for my life your honour.

[TooMany2cvs]

Oakey said:

Jordan210 said:

"Update - Metropolitan Police says a 78-year-old homeowner has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a man was stabbed and then later died during a burglary in Hither Green in southeast London"

Not sure how it can be Murder really

Perhaps the 'facts' aren't what he claims them to be?

I suspect that it's simply that the dead guy wasn't dead when he was arrested for GBH - now that he is, the charge has simply been upgraded as a matter of procedure - "then later died".

Doesn't affect anything else. Doesn't affect how it's going to go from here on in. If it was a simple scuffle that saw the screwdriver go the wrong way, then he'll more than likely be walking out today or tomorrow, and that'll be the end. "Reasonable force". If it was significantly more than that, then...

Remember Tony Martin? What people who hold him up as some kind of hero conveniently forget is that the scrote was shot in the back with an illegally-held gun, fired multiple times, while running away, by somebody who'd already had his licence taken away after shooting at somebody scrumping apples - not that a shotgun licence would have covered that pump-action shotgun anyway.

[Fort Jefferson]

TooMany2cvs said:

Remember Tony Martin? What people who hold him up as some kind of hero conveniently forget is that the scrote was shot in the back with an illegally-held gun, fired multiple times, while running away, by somebody who'd already had his licence taken away after shooting at somebody scrumping apples - not that a shotgun licence would have covered that pump-action shotgun anyway.

I don't care if he drove 20 miles and chased him across a field and shot him with an AK47, he rid the world of a scum bag.

[Baldy881]

Fort Jefferson said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Remember Tony Martin? What people who hold him up as some kind of hero conveniently forget is that the scrote was shot in the back with an illegally-held gun, fired multiple times, while running away, by somebody who'd already had his licence taken away after shooting at somebody scrumping apples - not that a shotgun licence would have covered that pump-action shotgun anyway.

I don't care if he drove 20 miles and chased him across a field and shot him with an AK47, he rid the world of a scum bag.

I could not agree more

[WinstonWolf]

TooMany2cvs said:

Oakey said:

Jordan210 said:

"Update - Metropolitan Police says a 78-year-old homeowner has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a man was stabbed and then later died during a burglary in Hither Green in southeast London"

Not sure how it can be Murder really

Perhaps the 'facts' aren't what he claims them to be?

I suspect that it's simply that the dead guy wasn't dead when he was arrested for GBH - now that he is, the charge has simply been upgraded as a matter of procedure - "then later died".

Doesn't affect anything else. Doesn't affect how it's going to go from here on in. If it was a simple scuffle that saw the screwdriver go the wrong way, then he'll more than likely be walking out today or tomorrow, and that'll be the end. "Reasonable force". If it was significantly more than that, then...

Remember Tony Martin? What people who hold him up as some kind of hero conveniently forget is that the scrote was shot in the back with an illegally-held gun, fired multiple times, while running away, by somebody who'd already had his licence taken away after shooting at somebody scrumping apples - not that a shotgun licence would have covered that pump-action shotgun anyway.

bks, TM had been burgled repeatedly and lived in a remote location. You're completely wrong about the background to the case.

Don't burgle, really simple advice to follow.

[motco]

Two factors may have an influence: whose screwdriver was it, and was the dead man really a burglar. For all we know at the moment the 78 year old could be an old gangster and the dead man a rival's son from 'the old days'. Rarely are things as they seem at first glance. Breath bated in readiness...

[bitchstewie]

Let's wait and see.

Kenneth Noye was a harmless old man surprised by a burglar in his back garden IIRC.

At face value it's routine and he'll be let go.

[seyre1972]

Fort Jefferson said:

I don't care if he drove 20 miles and chased him across a field and shot him with an AK47, he rid the world of a scum bag.

Obviously feel for the gentlemen - it's not his fault somebody put themselves in harms way .... and paid with their life. Hopefully the correct outcome/counseling for him. If not - it's about time our courts/Lawmakers took a bloody good look at whom/what they are trying to protect and achieve.

I for one would chip in for the best defense barrister in the Land if this goes to court.

[ReverendCounter]

TooMany2cvs said:

Remember Tony Martin? ... people who hold him up as some kind of hero

Yes, correct - some kind of hero. And?

TooMany2cvs said:

the scrote was shot in the back with an illegally-held gun, fired multiple times, while running away

After being repeatedly targeted by scum. In the words of Battery Sergeant Major, 'Oh dear, how sad, never mind'.

[Oakey]

bhstewie said:

Let's wait and see.

Kenneth Noye was a harmless old man surprised by a burglar in his back garden IIRC.

At face value it's routine and he'll be let go.

Kenny Noye was 38 when he stabbed John Fordham.

[irocfan]

finding it hard to feel any sympathy with scrote one in all honesty. "...forced into the kitchen..." maybe he grabbed a knife? As much of a victim as the old boy is I suspect the BiB have to arrest him as procedure

[dudleybloke]

How long before the bleating types blame the Tories for forcing the poor burglars to rob houses?

[Triumph Man]

How long before fellow scrotes "from the community" come on the TV and whinge that there's nothing to do and that's why they turn to crime? No sympathy for the burglar, a lot of sympathy for the victim of the burglary.