Multiculturalsim

[GroundEffect]

TTwitty said:

GroundEffect said:

You have to be a troll at this point.

Is this the goto phrase round here when you want your tummy tickled?

No, but if not Mr del mar is demonstrating significant autistic traits that the numbers are far more important than any human references in the idea of immigration. To the point of it being incredible.

[9xxNick]

Turbotbloke said:

And there was me thinking it was per anum...

Through your arse? Although I suppose a lot of people consider they are paying tax "per nasum".

[anonymous-user]

TTwitty said:

So if you show "autistic traits" or have a different opinion to the herd you're a troll?
Nice place.

In what was is he different from the herd?

I'd say his opinions are quite commonplace.

[_dobbo_]

9xxNick said:

Turbotbloke said:

And there was me thinking it was per anum...

Through your arse? Although I suppose a lot of people consider they are paying tax "per nasum".

I came because of the cars, I stay because of the latin jokes :-D

[_dobbo_]

del mar said:

I am not / wont be a net cost

Well that remains to be seen. Unless you're volunteering to self euthenise if you get a serious illness or injury?

[DanL]

s1962a said:

1st generation migrant with 4 kids? That would be my dad. Came over in the 60's - worked hard to provide a life for his kids who are all professionals, and now contribute well to society in your terms (net contributors). One in banking, one doctor, one dentist, and one teacher. We are just missing an accountant and an IT professional to get the full immigrant typical jobs. Mate, you are as British as I am, and it's our progeny that will determine what the future of Britain looks like, and no amount of stereotyping on your part will change that.

Point here is what the fk do I or my immigrant parents know about the grievances you've got with these communities that dont integrate and leach off the system? Nothing. In fact I think you dont know anything about them either - just what you've read in the papers. The UK isn't going to go back to some utopia that probably never existed in the first place - we've all got to try and fix our societal problems together.

This is an excellent post, which (knowing PH) will be overlooked as there’s nothing to argue with. (Said as a white English chap with a surname dates back to old English that implies he’s been here since the year dot, should that be a thing people care about.)

[del mar]

I have a Maserati bi turbo that isint rusty and doesn't breakdown every time it leaves the garage.

However their reputation is atrocious and I can accept that.

There are thousands of migrant families who make a significant contribute to the UK.
However studies show en masse that our immigrant population costs us a fortune, and they have bought all manner of social and cultural problems with them.

The question was had multiculturalism failed, other than a few thousand nhs employees nobody has offered any benefits.

Yes it has failed.

[Russian Troll Bot]

Eric Mc said:

Russian Troll Bot said:

The problem is there are certain aspects of other cultures, such as women's or gay rights, that are incompatible with our own. Those opposing viewpoints cannot coexist.

Those two concepts you mentioned are fairly recent changes to what you probably refer to as "our culture". 50 years ago you might have got into trouble
with "our culture" for promoting such ideas. Homosexuality only became legal in 1967. Equal pay for women only became a major issue in 1968 and became law in 1970 (not that this law is properly adhered to even now). The ability of gay people to have proper legal relationships such as marriage are VERY recent changes to our "culture".

So, the point is, "culture" (whatever that means) is not fixed. Our's changes all the time - and it is likely that other cultures change all the time too.

Cultures do change all the time, but not always for the best. Just look at Iran or Afghanistan in the 1970's compared to how they are now. We now have a society that is, as you say, a lot more tolerant to things such as gay rights. But we now also live in one where posting song lyrics or making your dog do a Nazi salute can result in a criminal conviction, and people who are deemed to have problematic views are no platformed. So we are now in this odd state of being very accepting of some things, whilst simultaneously applying a new moral puritanism.

[andymc]

the Australian model is often lauded, does anyone know it?

[Fort Jefferson]

If multiculturalism works, why do we need laws to enforce it?

[Randy Winkman]

Perhaps multiculturalism has helped lead to a more peaceful world?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2017/06...

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309673556...

[grumbledoak]

Randy Winkman said:

Perhaps multiculturalism has helped lead to a more peaceful world?

Have you been taking statistics lessons from climate scientists? Because in real science, random correlations do not a theory support.

[Gloria Slap]

grumbledoak said:

Have you been taking statistics lessons from climate scientists? Because in real science, random correlations do not a theory support.

Another anti-multiculturalist.

Oh look who is it.

[TTwiggy]

Fort Jefferson said:

If multiculturalism works, why do we need laws to enforce it?

What laws would they be then?

[TooMany2cvs]

del mar said:

I have a Maserati bi turbo that isint rusty and doesn't breakdown every time it leaves the garage.

Now we KNOW that you have no actual basis in reality...

[Randy Winkman]

grumbledoak said:

Randy Winkman said:

Perhaps multiculturalism has helped lead to a more peaceful world?

Have you been taking statistics lessons from climate scientists? Because in real science, random correlations do not a theory support.

I must have missed the "real science" in the multiculturalism is bad posts.

[grumbledoak]

Randy Winkman said:

I must have missed the "real science" in the multiculturalism is bad posts.

I think I missed all the "world peace" posts, until yours.

[Countdown]

TTwiggy said:

Fort Jefferson said:

If multiculturalism works, why do we need laws to enforce it?

What laws would they be then?

Good question.

[BJG1]

NickCQ said:

But in many cases people are complaining about living close to different cultures of the same race. Unless you define Eastern European chaps as some kind of separate Slavic race, which seems to be a bit of a stretch given how relatively recent Europe’s current borders are.

xenophobia is a natural bedfellow of racism

[Randy Winkman]

grumbledoak said:

Randy Winkman said:

I must have missed the "real science" in the multiculturalism is bad posts.

I think I missed all the "world peace" posts, until yours.

I don't understand. Are you saying my view doesn't count because it doesn't match the majority of the other posts in the thread?