Multiculturalsim

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Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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del mar said:
Alpinestars said:
How many times have I heard you complain when every thread is turned into a Muslim/anti immigrant thread?

How about engaging instead now that you're here?

Drink culture Friday nights - is that good or bad culture?
I think I have been more open and honest in answering questions than most on here.

Drink Culture.

It too me a few minutes to find the answer;

"It doesn't matter to me whether it is good or bad"
So we're getting down to personal preferences? Because if you were interested in statistics, and financial impact, drinking would be right up there as "not good culture". But because you like it, it doesn't matter.

That's nearer the truth if we're playing a game of truth.

Countdown

39,885 posts

196 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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del mar said:
I think I have been more open and honest in answering questions than most on here.

Drink Culture.

It too me a few minutes to find the answer;

"It doesn't matter to me whether it is good or bad"
Why does multiculturalism matter to you?



andymc

7,353 posts

207 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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gypos!

s1962a

5,314 posts

162 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Countdown said:
del mar said:
I think I have been more open and honest in answering questions than most on here.

Drink Culture.

It too me a few minutes to find the answer;

"It doesn't matter to me whether it is good or bad"
Why does multiculturalism matter to you?


8% of school age children are muslim - and that was back in 2011. Thats why it matters.

del mar

2,838 posts

199 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Alpinestars said:
del mar said:
Alpinestars said:
How many times have I heard you complain when every thread is turned into a Muslim/anti immigrant thread?

How about engaging instead now that you're here?

Drink culture Friday nights - is that good or bad culture?
I think I have been more open and honest in answering questions than most on here.

Drink Culture.

It too me a few minutes to find the answer;

"It doesn't matter to me whether it is good or bad"
So we're getting down to personal preferences? Because if you were interested in statistics, and financial impact, drinking would be right up there as "not good culture". But because you like it, it doesn't matter.

That's nearer the truth if we're playing a game of truth.
So you using that as an answer is ok, but me using it isn't ?


Most of us have done it in our younger days, it builds some good friendships, it ruins others. I would assume most people come out of it without any issues whatsoever, but I appreciate some wont.

I enjoyed it, my left wing friends enjoyed, is it bad no I don't think it is.

Are you telling me you have never gone out on a weekend and got drunk ?

del mar

2,838 posts

199 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Countdown said:
del mar said:
I think I have been more open and honest in answering questions than most on here.

Drink Culture.

It too me a few minutes to find the answer;

"It doesn't matter to me whether it is good or bad"
Why does multiculturalism matter to you?
Why does it matter to you ?

This is a thread on multiculturalism so i will post my opinions on it just as you can.

I don't think it has worked, Merkel and Cameron don't think it has worked either.


del mar

2,838 posts

199 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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s1962a said:


8% of school age children are muslim - and that was back in 2011. Thats why it matters.
No.

I have said all along it is about contribution, if white Europeans don't contribute either i don't want them.

You can turn it into a Muslim issue if you want.

I didn't bring up crime stats ape x did.
I pointed out that i thought he was wrong I said "most migrant groups are over represented"


ape x

958 posts

77 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Del Mar i'd like your answer as to why the ratio of prison population to the 'group' makes any difference how you should treat that group as a whole...

Anyone have any stats on Brits representation in foreign prisons is? Like say in Thailand?

bitchstewie

51,207 posts

210 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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grumbledoak said:
bhstewie said:
What you've just described isn't multiculturalism.
One country, multiple cultures. It is the spin word for our failed immigration policies and the ghettos that inevitably formed. Now itself being spun as if it was a good thing and we meant to do it all along.
That's not the accepted definition though, that's my sole point.

del mar

2,838 posts

199 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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TTwitty said:
del mar said:
So you using that as an answer is ok, but me using it isn't ?


Most of us have done it in our younger days, it builds some good friendships, it ruins others. I would assume most people come out of it without any issues whatsoever, but I appreciate some wont.

I enjoyed it, my left wing friends enjoyed, is it bad no I don't think it is.

Are you telling me you have never gone out on a weekend and got drunk ?
He hasn't,sips Pimm's in the garden of his ivory tower..
I thought that wa what university was about !

ape x

958 posts

77 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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del mar said:
No.

I have said all along it is about contribution, if white Europeans don't contribute either i don't want them.

You can turn it into a Muslim issue if you want.

I didn't bring up crime stats ape x did.
I pointed out that i thought he was wrong I said "most migrant groups are over represented"
Life simply is not like that though. Real life and not life in the mind of of child, is more complex and humans can and do find themselves on the wrong side of the law or simply the wrong side of what is an accepted norm of behavior.
No 'group' is immune to this, not even the Police, so quite how we are meant to only take the 'good' parts of multiculturalism but avoid any downsides is impossible is it not?


grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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bhstewie said:
That's not the accepted definition though, that's my sole point.
First hit:

multiculturalism ►
n.
the doctrine that several different cultures (rather than one national culture) can coexist peacefully and equitably in a single country


Countdown

39,885 posts

196 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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del mar said:
Countdown said:
del mar said:
I think I have been more open and honest in answering questions than most on here.

Drink Culture.

It too me a few minutes to find the answer;

"It doesn't matter to me whether it is good or bad"
Why does multiculturalism matter to you?
Why does it matter to you ?

This is a thread on multiculturalism so i will post my opinions on it just as you can.

I don't think it has worked, Merkel and Cameron don't think it has worked either.
You don't think it has worked...? confused What was it supposed to do?

Interesting how you avoided answering the question about alcohol btw. It must have been quite uncomfortable.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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s1962a said:
Countdown said:
Why does multiculturalism matter to you?
8% of school age children are muslim - and that was back in 2011. Thats why it matters.
Nope, you're going to have to explain to me why that matters.

Are you suggesting that they're somehow second-class citizens or something?

Countdown

39,885 posts

196 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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del mar said:
So you using that as an answer is ok, but me using it isn't ?


Most of us have done it in our younger days, it builds some good friendships, it ruins others. I would assume most people come out of it without any issues whatsoever, but I appreciate some wont.

I enjoyed it, my left wing friends enjoyed, is it bad no I don't think it is.
Alcohol abuse costing Britain £6bn a year

Countdown

39,885 posts

196 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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grumbledoak said:
First hit:

multiculturalism ?
n.
the doctrine that several different cultures (rather than one national culture) can coexist peacefully and equitably in a single country
By that definition I'd say it actually has worked. If you look at pretty much any large town or city in the UK there's usually a mix of cultures and people, on the whole, coexist peacefully and equitably.

ape x

958 posts

77 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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grumbledoak said:
bhstewie said:
That's not the accepted definition though, that's my sole point.
First hit:

multiculturalism ?
n.
the doctrine that several different cultures (rather than one national culture) can coexist peacefully and equitably in a single country
They do. Its really rather wonderful taken as a whole. Yes st happens but it always will because some folks do bad things and there is not one 'group' that can claim to be perfect.
On a forum with a membership as large as PH there will be folks who have been in prison, hell there will even be paedo's on here posting by the law of averages...

bitchstewie

51,207 posts

210 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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grumbledoak said:
bhstewie said:
That's not the accepted definition though, that's my sole point.
First hit:

multiculturalism ?
n.
the doctrine that several different cultures (rather than one national culture) can coexist peacefully and equitably in a single country
Quite, which isn't what you implied it to mean unless I completely misunderstood you in which case I apologise.

I'd say that's mostly the case in the UK, obviously not always.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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del mar said:
Alpinestars said:
del mar said:
Alpinestars said:
How many times have I heard you complain when every thread is turned into a Muslim/anti immigrant thread?

How about engaging instead now that you're here?

Drink culture Friday nights - is that good or bad culture?
I think I have been more open and honest in answering questions than most on here.

Drink Culture.

It too me a few minutes to find the answer;

"It doesn't matter to me whether it is good or bad"
So we're getting down to personal preferences? Because if you were interested in statistics, and financial impact, drinking would be right up there as "not good culture". But because you like it, it doesn't matter.

That's nearer the truth if we're playing a game of truth.
So you using that as an answer is ok, but me using it isn't ?


Most of us have done it in our younger days, it builds some good friendships, it ruins others. I would assume most people come out of it without any issues whatsoever, but I appreciate some wont.

I enjoyed it, my left wing friends enjoyed, is it bad no I don't think it is.

Are you telling me you have never gone out on a weekend and got drunk ?
Obfuscation. Do you accept there’s a drinking culture in Britain? Do you also accept it costs us as taxpayers a huge amount of money? Therefore, using your criteria, it’s a bad culture?

I now don’t drink and I’ve never committed a crime whilst under the influence or had any public service treat me or intervene.

But this is not about me.

Gloria Slap

8,964 posts

206 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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del mar said:
...."these inferior cultures"....
Racism

noun

"prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior."

That's pretty much textbook racism then.

But of course the word racism is always being used incorrectly here - at least in the minds of some here.

Edited by Gloria Slap on Monday 23 April 18:37