Multiculturalsim

[TooMany2cvs]

Mothersruin said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Mothersruin said:

TooMany2cvs said:

del mar said:

Do you have any positives for Somalian and Eritrean cultural benefits ?

I wonder how many Somalis and Eritreans have arrived here on visas, rather than as refugees...?

I'd wager many many more have arrived illegally than those with visas or refugee status.

Yes, thank you for confirming your cluelessness as to how asylum works.

I know exactly how it works.

You show no sign of it.

Clue: No matter how somebody arrives in this country, the moment they apply for asylum, they are here legally until such time as that application has been finally decided.

[ape x]

TooMany2cvs said:

ape x said:

'Multicultural' is as an example, now finding Polish food stores, it will make some people sick and angry

Can somebody explain that?

There's quite a lot of shops and other businesses who I don't give my business to. Tattooists, womenswear shops, hairdressers, beauty parlours, Ford dealers. Why on earth would their existence make me "sick and angry"?

So why would anybody be "sick and angry" because they aren't the target market for a particular food shop? Do butcher's shops attract similar feelings from vegetarians? Off-licences and pubs from the tee-total? Health food shops from the lardy?

I'll explain it, for sure it is clear to me that some people would be disgusted at seeing Polish shops spring up around them, same as Mosques etc etc, where as others either simply ignore it or even embrace it and just get on with their lives.

My wording was me having one eye on the old Little Britain sketch of the lady at the fair eating cakes and vomiting..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7cKpUrbNIY

[PWeston]

ape x said:

My wording was me having one eye on the old Little Britain sketch of the lady at the fair eating cakes and vomiting..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7cKpUrbNIY

Even though it wasn't that long ago...I can't think for a minute that Little Britain would get anywhere near our TV screens were it produced today!

[ape x]

PWeston said:

ape x said:

My wording was me having one eye on the old Little Britain sketch of the lady at the fair eating cakes and vomiting..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7cKpUrbNIY

Even though it wasn't that long ago...I can't think for a minute that Little Britain would get anywhere near our TV screens were it produced today!

Of course it would!
It's sold still as DVD and freely available on the BBC iPlayer!

The reason it won't come back is because Walliams is a BGT sell out ....

That sketch takes the piss out of bigots....what is not to like about that...?

It's funny because it's based on people like Del Mar on here...

Edited by ape x on Wednesday 25th April 12:38

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El stovey said:

TooMany2cvs said:

ape x said:

'Multicultural' is as an example, now finding Polish food stores, it will make some people sick and angry

Can somebody explain that?

There's quite a lot of shops and other businesses who I don't give my business to. Tattooists, womenswear shops, hairdressers, beauty parlours, Ford dealers. Why on earth would their existence make me "sick and angry"?

So why would anybody be "sick and angry" because they aren't the target market for a particular food shop? Do butcher's shops attract similar feelings from vegetarians? Off-licences and pubs from the tee-total? Health food shops from the lardy?

I think ale x was saying it might make a small number of racists sick and angry. If you don’t want Polish people in the uk you’re not going to be happy seeing their shops sprout up. That’s a sign that they’re staying and even perhaps that more are coming.

He said he likes seeing foreign shops though, and thinks it’s a sign of a vibrant society.

Those other shops you mention aren’t indicative of changes in the ethnic make up of a country, whereas shops selling food to one particular community are.

I have a great deal of time for Eastern European immigrants, they keep things going in my industry, however I took exception to the local polish shop which refused service to English only customers, on the dubious grounds that they didn’t speak it.
By all means come here and start a business but ffs fit in.

[PWeston]

ape x said:

Of course it would!
It's sold still as DVD and freely available on the BBC iPlayer!

The reason it won't come back is because Walliams is a BGT sell out ....

That sketch takes the piss out of bigots....what is not to like about that...?

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/t...

I think, for one thing, the whole gender debate has become a little too charged nowadays. Do you seriously think if Little Britain came out today there wouldn't be "activists" calling for their heads for making a mockery of cross-dressers?

There's plenty ambiguous racial stuff too which wouldn't be tolerated, keeping things on topic...ish!

Edited by PWeston on Wednesday 25th April 12:41

[ape x]

PWeston said:

ape x said:

Of course it would!
It's sold still as DVD and freely available on the BBC iPlayer!

The reason it won't come back is because Walliams is a BGT sell out ....

That sketch takes the piss out of bigots....what is not to like about that...?

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/t...

I think, for one thing, the whole gender debate has become a little too charged nowadays. Do you seriously think if Little Britain came out today there wouldn't be "activists" calling for their heads for making a mockery of cross-dressers?

There's plenty ambiguous racial stuff too which wouldn't be tolerated, keeping things on topic...ish!

Edited by PWeston on Wednesday 25th April 12:41

Well as a Dad of a 4 and 8 year old i have been forced to see Mr Tumble dressed as women on his kids show....which still runs today and has made Old Justin a very rich man....
We live in a very open world today, but with that comes the price that people are free to also take a stand against stuff... that's life.
Quite why people get so offended about people taking offence to stuff i'll never know....
I note my difference between 'offended' and standing up against something that i think is morally wrong to me...
So for example a man abusing a women doesn't offend me so much as goes agaisnt my morals so i would stand up against it...

Much of the time people are not 'offended' they simply don't agree with something...so what?

And fill your boots.......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/group/b006q2zd

[TooMany2cvs]

Mothersruin said:

Could you even find Somalia and Eritrea on a map? Do you have the first idea why nationals of those countries are pretty-much a shoe-in for refugee status?

Edited by andy.mod on Wednesday 25th April 15:03

[TooMany2cvs]

PWeston said:

Do you seriously think if Little Britain came out today there wouldn't be "activists" calling for their heads for making a mockery of cross-dressers?

Walliams and Lucas are on record as saying they simply could not make the same show now, and they regret some of the jokes.

Is it really any different to the Black and White Minstrel show?

[captain_cynic]

TooMany2cvs said:

Mothersruin said:

Could you even find Somalia and Eritrea on a map? Do you have the first idea why nationals of those countries are pretty-much a shoe-in for refugee status?

I think what is even more incredible is that someone with next to no education from some 3rd world craphole can manage to evade Britain's finest investigators... yet the whole thing is known beyond any shadow of a doubt by some random angry whinger on Pistonheads. Imagine if they applied to work a Border Force or MI5.

Edited by andy.mod on Wednesday 25th April 15:03

[captain_cynic]

TooMany2cvs said:

PWeston said:

Do you seriously think if Little Britain came out today there wouldn't be "activists" calling for their heads for making a mockery of cross-dressers?

Walliams and Lucas are on record as saying they simply could not make the same show now, and they regret some of the jokes.

Is it really any different to the Black and White Minstrel show?

TMNT from the 90's... Not because it wasn't PC, but because kids these days wouldn't get the cultural references from the early 90's. Same with the Goodies, to remake that you'd have to remove all the references to the 70's Britain and make it relevant to today's which means making a completely different show in the first place as all you'd have left is a bit of nudity, slapstick and Bill Oddie.

What a lot of people call "Pee Ceees gones madzzz" is simply the fact society and tastes has changed and they haven't been able to move with it.

[del mar]

s1962a said:

del mar said:

Last year I went in to Dubai with another guy from the office, he is a different colour to me !!!!! He is from Wolverhampton of all places.

Did I find the trip or do I find the office more exciting or interesting because his grandparents came from India - no. We had some beers talked about **** and spent a night in a bar full of prostitutes, as I would do with anybody else..

Them be dangerous activities - be careful!

http://metro.co.uk/2018/04/21/british-tourist-has-...

I do know a man who spent time with a lady whilst on a trip to the US, she stole his wallet and passport - tricky one to explain to the wife.

[ape x]

captain_cynic said:

TooMany2cvs said:

PWeston said:

Do you seriously think if Little Britain came out today there wouldn't be "activists" calling for their heads for making a mockery of cross-dressers?

Walliams and Lucas are on record as saying they simply could not make the same show now, and they regret some of the jokes.

Is it really any different to the Black and White Minstrel show?

TMNT from the 90's... Not because it wasn't PC, but because kids these days wouldn't get the cultural references from the early 90's. Same with the Goodies, to remake that you'd have to remove all the references to the 70's Britain and make it relevant to today's which means making a completely different show in the first place as all you'd have left is a bit of nudity, slapstick and Bill Oddie.

What a lot of people call "Pee Ceees gones madzzz" is simply the fact society and tastes has changed and they haven't been able to move with it.

Very true. Walliams can say all he wants that it would not get made today, but the BBC, you know that bastion of the alt right, still has it on iPlayer...it is not banned, it is simply that Walliams is a bit ashamed of it now he writes kids books and sold his soul to Simon Cowell.

They ran out of material and him and Lucas went in opposite directions, it became a catch phrase comedy like the fast show and eventually it stops being cool... If anything they were too light compared to say Frankie Boyle and Jimmy Carr / Gervaise...

[del mar]

s1962a said:

del mar said:

This would be the most developed countries that led the way in almost every aspect of the modern world that suddenly found themselves lost broken and useless and the only way to survive was to bring in millions a of people from the less developed world ? .

Yes, Britain need labour after world war II and invited over it's British subjects from the former colonies. I bet if they knew how many people would end up here the invitation would have been more limited, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/citize...

See we are making progress without name calling.

We needed the labour and it was assumed eventually people would return to their country of origin, there was no assumption that they would stay and no plan for any integration or awareness of the problems it may cause.

When people decided to stay there should have been more of a plan.

Labour allowing in nigh on 3m without looking at how the previous influx had integrated and the value these people were bringing in was a very bad decision.

[del mar]

Mothersruin said:

TooMany2cvs said:

del mar said:

Do you have any positives for Somalian and Eritrean cultural benefits ?

I wonder how many Somalis and Eritreans have arrived here on visas, rather than as refugees...?

I'd wager many many more have arrived illegally than those with visas or refugee status.

Does it matter how they arrived ?

They are either of benefit to society or they aren't.

Somalia was not in the commonwealth and it is a long way from the UK, how we ended up with any is a mystery to me.

[TooMany2cvs]

del mar said:

Somalia was not in the commonwealth and it is a long way from the UK, how we ended up with any is a mystery to me.

So you'd be quite happy for the UK to leave the UN?

[ape x]

del mar said:

Mothersruin said:

TooMany2cvs said:

del mar said:

Do you have any positives for Somalian and Eritrean cultural benefits ?

I wonder how many Somalis and Eritreans have arrived here on visas, rather than as refugees...?

I'd wager many many more have arrived illegally than those with visas or refugee status.

Does it matter how they arrived ?

They are either of benefit to society or they aren't.

Somalia was not in the commonwealth and it is a long way from the UK, how we ended up with any is a mystery to me.

The fact Solmalians are here, how does that make you feel?

[anonymous-user]

captain_cynic said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Mothersruin said:

Could you even find Somalia and Eritrea on a map? Do you have the first idea why nationals of those countries are pretty-much a shoe-in for refugee status?

I think what is even more incredible is that someone with next to no education from some 3rd world craphole can manage to evade Britain's finest investigators... yet the whole thing is known beyond any shadow of a doubt by some random angry whinger on Pistonheads. Imagine if they applied to work a Border Force or MI5.

?? It’s incontrovertible that there are many illegal immigrants from Eastern Africa, including Eritrea and Somalia, in Europe and the U.K.

There are easily found studies about it and quite a few high profile examples of individuals.

I don’t doubt that ‘Britain’s finest investigators’ are quite familiar with that situation. Why they choose to do little about it is a different question.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 25th April 15:03

[s1962a]

del mar said:

Somalia was not in the commonwealth and it is a long way from the UK, how we ended up with any is a mystery to me.

So you're ok with the migration from commonwealth countries into the UK? You know, those British Subjects that were invited over to rebuild Britain after world war II.

We are trying to keep up with you moving the goalposts everyday, but it's not easy. First it's about muslamics, then those that provide an economic benefit, then about what benefit they provide to soceity, and now it's about migrants froom non commonwealth countries. Soon you'll have whittled it down to asking what possible benefit we have allowing Laquisha from Micronesia into the UK.

[markcoznottz]

Coolbanana said:

del mar said:

Cool
I was looking out for these significant Turkish cultural benefits yesterday, but other than the scruffy kebab shop serving mrm I couldn’t see any.
Do you have any positives for Somalian and Eritrean cultural benefits ?

Absolutely! The main one being that the more Somalis and Eritrean's we have in the UK, the more it winds people like you up which is priceless!

Seriously, adopt a Somali orphan and do some good in the World instead of being a miserable, xenophobic whinger.

What you mean like 'rubbing the rights nose in diversity'?. It's not a game, besides which aren't Somalis over represented in knife crimes?.