Ruth Davidson pregnant.
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Zod said:
Really? So much so that they are noticeable/relevant to a young child?
Yes, absolutely noticeable. I don't think it's anything surprising that a young child can differentiate between the genders. Does it matter if the child isn't parented by both genders? Short term studies say not.Zod said:
Troubleatmill said:
If you asked me 30 odd years ago - I would have had a hissy fit about there not being a mum and dad.
I think I know better now,
To be honest - all that matters is the kid is brought up in a loving caring environment and is being prepared for life as an adult.
Gender of parents is pretty much irrelevant.
Yep. Me too.I think I know better now,
To be honest - all that matters is the kid is brought up in a loving caring environment and is being prepared for life as an adult.
Gender of parents is pretty much irrelevant.
Though I do wonder what it must be like for a child to walk in on its parents having sex. Catching Mummy and daddy at it is bad enough but seeing daddy one legs akimbo or ass in the air being penetrated in the ring by daddy two, that’s bound to leave quite the impression.
S'funny - I have really old fashioned tendencies and would tell you that it should be a Dad & a Mum - that's the way children should be brought up - but I hated how my childhood turned out with exactly that, so I'd just like to see kids looked after, nurtured and loved.
If a couple of women or men can do that, then crack on.
If a couple of women or men can do that, then crack on.
She does have an wicked sense of humour though ..and likes stirring them up!
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/07/01/scottish-tor...
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/07/01/scottish-tor...
Mothersruin said:
S'funny - I have really old fashioned tendencies and would tell you that it should be a Dad & a Mum - that's the way children should be brought up - but I hated how my childhood turned out with exactly that, so I'd just like to see kids looked after, nurtured and loved.
If a couple of women or men can do that, then crack on.
If a couple of women or men can do that, then crack on.
Kccv23highliftcam said:
Mothersruin said:
S'funny - I have really old fashioned tendencies and would tell you that it should be a Dad & a Mum - that's the way children should be brought up - but I hated how my childhood turned out with exactly that, so I'd just like to see kids looked after, nurtured and loved.
If a couple of women or men can do that, then crack on.
If a couple of women or men can do that, then crack on.
Troubleatmill said:
Gender of parents is pretty much irrelevant.
I'd really like to believe that to be the case, but then I read stuff like this and can't help but wonder.Gay parents aside, I think we as a society are creating a damaged generation in more ways than one, and I genuinely do worry about the kind of world my young girls are being brought up in. And I can't see that gay parents becoming normalised is going to improve that society.
JuniorD said:
Me three.
Though I do wonder what it must be like for a child to walk in on its parents having sex. Catching Mummy and daddy at it is bad enough but seeing daddy one legs akimbo or ass in the air being penetrated in the ring by daddy two, that’s bound to leave quite the impression.
...it's obviously had a deep impression on you. Thanks for the detail.Though I do wonder what it must be like for a child to walk in on its parents having sex. Catching Mummy and daddy at it is bad enough but seeing daddy one legs akimbo or ass in the air being penetrated in the ring by daddy two, that’s bound to leave quite the impression.
wiggy001 said:
I'd really like to believe that to be the case, but then I read stuff like this and can't help but wonder.
Perhaps, just perhaps, the Sun is not necessarily the most authoritative of sources, and perhaps, just perhaps, spoilt-little-rich-kids have been going off the rails for years irrespective of their parental genders or marital status?wiggy001 said:
I'd really like to believe that to be the case, but then I read stuff like this and can't help but wonder.
Gay parents aside, I think we as a society are creating a damaged generation in more ways than one, and I genuinely do worry about the kind of world my young girls are being brought up in. And I can't see that gay parents becoming normalised is going to improve that society.
I think probably every generation of parent has thought this since time began Gay parents aside, I think we as a society are creating a damaged generation in more ways than one, and I genuinely do worry about the kind of world my young girls are being brought up in. And I can't see that gay parents becoming normalised is going to improve that society.
There are thousands of kids suffering from a less that 'ideal' upbringing, from well meant pressures, indoctrination, simply unnurtured or suffering downright abuse and everything in between. Years ago [as a few have said], I had an unarticulatable reluctance when it came to same sex couples, but over twenty years as a parent I'm a bit more philosophical/pragmatic and at the heart of it I would want for a loving home above and beyond anything else. I think my initial reluctance was linked to a perceived lack of role model within the structure, and that may yet be a factor that is less than 'ideal' [whatever that is] but I'm happy to forego that on the basis that far worse things happen to kids and a lot of role modelling is actually far more negative than no role model at all.
As for the general decline of society, again, I think we see it through the lens of watching our fledglings go out into this miasma of conflicting pressures, harmful temptations and a generally 'cruel world' and think of them as being unable to deal with it. The remedy for that is to arm them as best we can for it, accept that their natural instinct is to poke bee hives and scrape their metaphorical knees and then just let them get on with it I think - they actually need to be on the edge a little, to be stimulated - otherwise paradise becomes a cage and they end up like a bear in a zoo gnawing at their own legs. The dichotomy of parenthood was summed up well by a conversation my wife (she's a she
) and I - we watched our 18yr go to his last school day last week and she was in bits - 'this is it, it'll be so empty when he goes, I can't imagine what it'll be like when he's gone'; I said well it'll be a bit quieter as you spend most of the time shouting at him about his room, not doing his homework, getting in late, staying up late to make sure he's in, worrying every time he goes out, stressing about his performance, friends, future etc etc - it'll be a relief to see the back of him!!Kids are amazingly robust, they love to rebel to a degree anyway and they will probably f
k up a few things but they'll get over it and on with it. The job for us is to enjoy them, nurture and love them and arm them for the world; we shouldn't raise kids, we should raise adults because it is they that will define what society will become, not us.Edited by andy_s on Sunday 29th April 10:51
vonuber said:
wiggy001 said:
And I can't see that gay parents becoming normalised is going to improve that society.
Why not?I would quote the WHOLE statement and use the formatting tool to underline the bit you want to talk about.
Makes a lot more sense that way.
She’s given a candid interview to the times. It’s behind a paywall but she’s tweeted some of it:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/...
“Interview: Ruth Davidson, leader of the Scottish Conservatives, on depression, her self?harm scars and why she’ll never be PM”
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/interview-ruth-...
Also reported elsewhere:
“Ruth Davidson rules out bid to become Conservative leader
Scottish Tory leader dismisses move for the sake of her mental health and relationship”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/16/r...
https://mobile.twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/...
“Interview: Ruth Davidson, leader of the Scottish Conservatives, on depression, her self?harm scars and why she’ll never be PM”
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/interview-ruth-...
Also reported elsewhere:
“Ruth Davidson rules out bid to become Conservative leader
Scottish Tory leader dismisses move for the sake of her mental health and relationship”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/16/r...
Edited by BlackLabel on Sunday 16th September 09:29
BlackLabel said:
She’s given a candid interview to the times. It’s behind a paywall but she’s tweeted some of it:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/...
“Interview: Ruth Davidson, leader of the Scottish Conservatives, on depression, her self?harm scars and why she’ll never be PM”
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/interview-ruth-...
Also reported elsewhere:
“Ruth Davidson rules out bid to become Conservative leader
Scottish Tory leader dismisses move for the sake of her mental health and relationship”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/16/r...
Very courageous of her to admit all that, especially with the prevalence of online trolling noawdays.https://mobile.twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/...
“Interview: Ruth Davidson, leader of the Scottish Conservatives, on depression, her self?harm scars and why she’ll never be PM”
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/interview-ruth-...
Also reported elsewhere:
“Ruth Davidson rules out bid to become Conservative leader
Scottish Tory leader dismisses move for the sake of her mental health and relationship”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/16/r...
Edited by BlackLabel on Sunday 16th September 09:29
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