Gammon?

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anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Corbyn can’t be a gammon, gammon are apparently angry middle aged right wingers and brexiters.

https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a20680090/gammo...

article said:
Being afflicted with a touch of the gammon is a condition that transcends class. What pumps scarlet blood into the cheeks of gammon is an indiscriminate, impenetrable rage that affects swathes of flushed men, from rich Eurosceptic Tories in Sussex to struggling, Corbyn-loathing UKippers in Sunderland.

Rage at unelected elites in Brussels, rage at the will of the people being subverted, rage at gender neutral bathrooms and halal meat in the Torquay Pizza Express. A rage at How Things Used To Be fading away, and - as happened to the humble gammon - being replaced by new-fangled ideas, like streaky bacon.

The insult could have been drawn on any number of glowing cuts of meats. And yet there's something so antiquated and depressing about the brined hind leg of a pig that fits the job so perfectly. If a cut of meat was going to question climate change or campaign to bring back the death penalty or just be forgotten, forever, it would almost certainly be gammon. That's probably why it's causing such a lot of fuss. Until the next thing.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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loafer123 said:


Too lean for my liking, but the right colour.
Would keep repeating on you as well.

Francois de La Rochefoucauld

461 posts

79 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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It's the smug, right ons way of denigrating a very specific group of people based on their skin tone and gender alone.

There isn't a dark face or women in the meme doing the rounds. It's little different from antisemites using triple parentheses in discussion or putting a dozen middle aged black men in a collage and calling them all monkeys.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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gooner1 said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Does that happen much - people blurting “racist” for no reason - like someone with Tourette’s?
Yes, it's one particular posters stock in trade term
for those that disagree with him/her.
Can’t say I’ve noticed it. There do seem a fair few racist opinions expressed in NP&E though - so maybe not too surprising that the accusation does occur.

Supercilious Sid

2,575 posts

162 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Roman Rhodes said:
gooner1 said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Does that happen much - people blurting “racist” for no reason - like someone with Tourette’s?
Yes, it's one particular posters stock in trade term
for those that disagree with him/her.
Can’t say I’ve noticed it.
There is a shiny thing in your bathroom called a mirror.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Francois de La Rochefoucauld said:
It's the smug, right ons way of denigrating a very specific group of people based on their skin tone and gender alone.

There isn't a dark face or women in the meme doing the rounds. It's little different from antisemites using triple parentheses in discussion or putting a dozen middle aged black men in a collage and calling them all monkeys.
I'd gave thought they would also need to have gammony opinions to be considered gammon.

So the denigration is based on their opinions.

We need a Dickens scholar to advise on whether he meant to be racist or not.

Bill

52,798 posts

256 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Francois de La Rochefoucauld said:
It's the smug, right ons way of denigrating a very specific group of people based on their skin tone and gender alone.

There isn't a dark face or women in the meme doing the rounds. It's little different from antisemites using triple parentheses in discussion or putting a dozen middle aged black men in a collage and calling them all monkeys.
And I thought this thread couldn't get any sillier! Well done!! clap

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Bill said:
And I thought this thread couldn't get any sillier! Well done!! clap
Amazing stuff, isn't it?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Supercilious Sid said:
Roman Rhodes said:
gooner1 said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Does that happen much - people blurting “racist” for no reason - like someone with Tourette’s?
Yes, it's one particular posters stock in trade term
for those that disagree with him/her.
Can’t say I’ve noticed it.
There is a shiny thing in your bathroom called a mirror.
If you are implying that I have called anyone racist for no reason then you’ll have no trouble providing examples, right? Or, alternatively, are you another crying wolf about being called a racist?

Bill

52,798 posts

256 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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desolate said:
Amazing stuff, isn't it?
Jaw dropping. yes

gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Roman Rhodes said:
If you are implying that I have called anyone racist for no reason then you’ll have no trouble providing examples, right? Or, alternatively, are you another crying wolf about being called a racist?
Another?

Dindoit

1,645 posts

95 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Francois de La Rochefoucauld said:
It's the smug, right ons way of denigrating a very specific group of people based on their skin tone and gender alone.

There isn't a dark face or women in the meme doing the rounds. It's little different from antisemites using triple parentheses in discussion or putting a dozen middle aged black men in a collage and calling them all monkeys.
Calling someone gammon is literally, LITERALLY, the same as setting fire to a cross on a black family’s front lawn. Literally.

Gloria Slap

8,964 posts

207 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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The Poke have provided some handy tips:

https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2018/05/14/gammon-people...

I think it is quite carefully defined as a way to describe a very particular set of opinions - seen widely here.

Those opinions are often quite unpleasant so there is something appropriate about it as a descriptive term.

Its use on the RNLI thread was entirely justified, as I'm sure several posters would agree. Of course the gammon wouldn't, but that's kind of the point.

PS you can be right wing and not want to associate with gammony views.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Gammon & onion suet pudding steamed in a cloth bag. cloud9

gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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alfie2244 said:
Gammon & onion suet pudding steamed in a cloth bag. cloud9
Muslin?

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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gooner1 said:
alfie2244 said:
Gammon & onion suet pudding steamed in a cloth bag. cloud9
Muslin?
Sadly my nan is not about to ask so it could have been cloth from a hopsack for all I know biggrin

Bill

52,798 posts

256 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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alfie2244 said:
Gammon & onion suet pudding steamed in a cloth bag. cloud9
That's the way to deal with it. Claim it as your own. I can see you strolling into the snug of the George and Dragon, flat cap on backwards and nod to your homeys "Wassup, gammon?"

wink

sas62

5,659 posts

79 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Wonder if I could ask for some clarification. My quiz team comprises 6 to 8 middle (to late) aged white men. I was planning on renaming the team to The Gammons.

However, half the team voted for Brexit and half against. Are only the Brexit half gammons?


anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Bill said:
alfie2244 said:
Gammon & onion suet pudding steamed in a cloth bag. cloud9
That's the way to deal with it. Claim it as your own. I can see you strolling into the snug of the George and Dragon, flat cap on backwards and nod to your homeys "Wassup, gammon?"

wink
It’s like the n word. Gammons can call each other gammon but if non gammons use it, it’s racist. hehe

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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El stovey said:
Bill said:
alfie2244 said:
Gammon & onion suet pudding steamed in a cloth bag. cloud9
That's the way to deal with it. Claim it as your own. I can see you strolling into the snug of the George and Dragon, flat cap on backwards and nod to your homeys "Wassup, gammon?"

wink
It’s like the n word. Gammons can call each other gammon but if non gammons use it, it’s racist. hehe
Ironically it does also have connections to a language used by an ethnic minority.