45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)
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Gameface said:
Just read his tweets for past few days.
The man is a loon!!
I've just done the same and now my brain has melted with the sheer stupidity of his ranting.The man is a loon!!
I can only imagine how confused and angry he is as his stumpy orange little fingers stab at the screen of his phone as he types them out.
Memes That Kill: The Future Of Information Warfare: https://www.cbinsights.com/research/future-of-info...
Back in 2011 DARPA funded Dr. Robert Finkelstein to look in to the weaponisation of social media, this article is an updated rewrite of his original report. There's nothing particularly new in it but in light of the Russian hacking scandal it's good that the techniques used are being codified and put out there for public consumption.
One thing that does strike me is that it's now 7 years since Dr Finkelstein's original report and yet five eyes defences against this kind of cyber attack seem to be fairly minimal. The spooks themselves will have a good idea of what's going on but there has been no attempt I am aware of to harden our democratic institutions or the individual voter against attack.
Having seen the way Trump won through a relatively small number of votes in swing states makes me worry about similar things happening in the UK's small number of swing constituencies that often decide the outcome of an election. Similarly with false information there has been no attempt to help people help themselves, even a simple add campaign asking "Are you a useful idiot?" featuring techniques for researching and applying critical thinking to your own biases could help a lot. "Think before you link" could be another slogan.
The fact that not even the most basic and easy to implement safeguards are being put in place does make me question the competence of our politicians.
Back in 2011 DARPA funded Dr. Robert Finkelstein to look in to the weaponisation of social media, this article is an updated rewrite of his original report. There's nothing particularly new in it but in light of the Russian hacking scandal it's good that the techniques used are being codified and put out there for public consumption.
One thing that does strike me is that it's now 7 years since Dr Finkelstein's original report and yet five eyes defences against this kind of cyber attack seem to be fairly minimal. The spooks themselves will have a good idea of what's going on but there has been no attempt I am aware of to harden our democratic institutions or the individual voter against attack.
Having seen the way Trump won through a relatively small number of votes in swing states makes me worry about similar things happening in the UK's small number of swing constituencies that often decide the outcome of an election. Similarly with false information there has been no attempt to help people help themselves, even a simple add campaign asking "Are you a useful idiot?" featuring techniques for researching and applying critical thinking to your own biases could help a lot. "Think before you link" could be another slogan.
The fact that not even the most basic and easy to implement safeguards are being put in place does make me question the competence of our politicians.
Lord Marylebone said:
Gameface said:
Just read his tweets for past few days.
The man is a loon!!
I've just done the same and now my brain has melted with the sheer stupidity of his ranting.The man is a loon!!
I can only imagine how confused and angry he is as his stumpy orange little fingers stab at the screen of his phone as he types them out.
tting himself and lashing out like a toddler.
Jockman said:
Gameface said:
Just read his tweets for past few days.
The man is a loon!!
I refuse. Surely you've got better things to do?The man is a loon!!
Eric Mc said:
One of the problems is that most politicians are IT ignorant. Many are "elderly" and even the younger ones are not too clued up.
They did not see the way IT was being used as a weapon and now they are struggling to work out how to counter such attacks.
I'm not even convinced they are "struggling to work out how to counter such attacks", I think they're just bumbling along in ignorance, doing what they've always done as if the world hasn't changed around them.They did not see the way IT was being used as a weapon and now they are struggling to work out how to counter such attacks.
rscott said:
PWeston said:
Ok, there’s a bunch of news headlines with the Guardian at the top. I have read said article and it is hysterical drivel - it’s amazing people are taken in by such sophistry. Please tell me no PHer thinks this is worth forming your opinions from?!
The author’s “argument” seems to be that because Trump disapproves of mass migration into Europe and sees it as a threat to European culture that he is thus some terrible racist. Is that REALLY where the bar is for racism now?
As for linking me wikipedia...have a
on me.
Do you understand the difference between actual evidence vs some opinion piece or an editable wikipedia article?
You could try reading the reports linked to by the Wikipedia page. Or this PBS summary of Trump - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/every-moment... .The author’s “argument” seems to be that because Trump disapproves of mass migration into Europe and sees it as a threat to European culture that he is thus some terrible racist. Is that REALLY where the bar is for racism now?
As for linking me wikipedia...have a
on me.Do you understand the difference between actual evidence vs some opinion piece or an editable wikipedia article?
rscott said:
You could try reading the reports linked to by the Wikipedia page. Or this PBS summary of Trump - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/every-moment... .
That's one of the things that most detractors of wiki ignore about it, a lot of it is sourced. It's a great resource.Challo said:
Byker28i said:
Trumps now saying the courts were corrupt because the issued the visa warrant against carter page.
You really couldn't make this up.
Off course he read the whole document or just watched Fox News. You really couldn't make this up.
_dobbo_ said:
rscott said:
PWeston said:
Ok, there’s a bunch of news headlines with the Guardian at the top. I have read said article and it is hysterical drivel - it’s amazing people are taken in by such sophistry. Please tell me no PHer thinks this is worth forming your opinions from?!
The author’s “argument” seems to be that because Trump disapproves of mass migration into Europe and sees it as a threat to European culture that he is thus some terrible racist. Is that REALLY where the bar is for racism now?
As for linking me wikipedia...have a on me.
Do you understand the difference between actual evidence vs some opinion piece or an editable wikipedia article?
You could try reading the reports linked to by the Wikipedia page. Or this PBS summary of Trump - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/every-moment... .The author’s “argument” seems to be that because Trump disapproves of mass migration into Europe and sees it as a threat to European culture that he is thus some terrible racist. Is that REALLY where the bar is for racism now?
As for linking me wikipedia...have a
on me.Do you understand the difference between actual evidence vs some opinion piece or an editable wikipedia article?
Tartan Pixie said:
Memes That Kill: The Future Of Information Warfare: https://www.cbinsights.com/research/future-of-info...
Back in 2011 DARPA funded Dr. Robert Finkelstein to look in to the weaponisation of social media, this article is an updated rewrite of his original report. There's nothing particularly new in it but in light of the Russian hacking scandal it's good that the techniques used are being codified and put out there for public consumption.
One thing that does strike me is that it's now 7 years since Dr Finkelstein's original report and yet five eyes defences against this kind of cyber attack seem to be fairly minimal. The spooks themselves will have a good idea of what's going on but there has been no attempt I am aware of to harden our democratic institutions or the individual voter against attack.
Having seen the way Trump won through a relatively small number of votes in swing states makes me worry about similar things happening in the UK's small number of swing constituencies that often decide the outcome of an election. Similarly with false information there has been no attempt to help people help themselves, even a simple add campaign asking "Are you a useful idiot?" featuring techniques for researching and applying critical thinking to your own biases could help a lot. "Think before you link" could be another slogan.
The fact that not even the most basic and easy to implement safeguards are being put in place does make me question the competence of our politicians.
An interesting post that informs me.Back in 2011 DARPA funded Dr. Robert Finkelstein to look in to the weaponisation of social media, this article is an updated rewrite of his original report. There's nothing particularly new in it but in light of the Russian hacking scandal it's good that the techniques used are being codified and put out there for public consumption.
One thing that does strike me is that it's now 7 years since Dr Finkelstein's original report and yet five eyes defences against this kind of cyber attack seem to be fairly minimal. The spooks themselves will have a good idea of what's going on but there has been no attempt I am aware of to harden our democratic institutions or the individual voter against attack.
Having seen the way Trump won through a relatively small number of votes in swing states makes me worry about similar things happening in the UK's small number of swing constituencies that often decide the outcome of an election. Similarly with false information there has been no attempt to help people help themselves, even a simple add campaign asking "Are you a useful idiot?" featuring techniques for researching and applying critical thinking to your own biases could help a lot. "Think before you link" could be another slogan.
The fact that not even the most basic and easy to implement safeguards are being put in place does make me question the competence of our politicians.
However, in today's climate I don't think it would make a lot of difference how many times you told people to be aware of fake news and hacking scandals.
I think many people are so sceptical of the political establishment that they are just voting with their gut feelings
Either by saying, to hell with the lot of you or reverting to their tribal instincts.
I am listening to Project Fear every day and thinking, do I believe this stuff ....and then because it doesn't suit my agenda .....think nah.....it's a lot of rollox.
However I'm not that stupid that I don't realise that if we leave without a "deal" there's gonna be some pain.
" Nowt to gain without a bit of pain " ...as the actress said to the bishop.
This is old news so apologies if repost but.... holy crap!!
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/us/politics/tru...
The evidence about collusion never stops.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/us/politics/tru...
The evidence about collusion never stops.
Tony33 said:
Mothersruin said:
How's the US doing at the moment?
Genuine question, I don't follow this thread or have a dog in the fight. If it's doing badly, how would Clinton have fared in the same climate?
The trend lines are pretty much in line with the previous administration. Business seems to be doing well but at the expense of rolling back shed loads of regulation for environment and workers protection. Good news for car lovers this includes emissions, maybe not so good for the planet but this administration doesn't believe in that crap.Genuine question, I don't follow this thread or have a dog in the fight. If it's doing badly, how would Clinton have fared in the same climate?
The roll back of regulations to be more like the fifties gets largely unnoticed thanks to all the crazy stuff!
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