45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)

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Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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LoonyTunes said:
Just the very odd thing though...the rest of it was mainly religious bks biggrin
I certainly wouldn't have wanted to enjoy a drink with him!!

Eric Mc

122,086 posts

266 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Halb said:
I certainly wouldn't have wanted to enjoy a drink with him!!
Or celebrate Christmas.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Eric Mc said:
Halb said:
I certainly wouldn't have wanted to enjoy a drink with him!!
Or celebrate Christmas.
hehe
drink

Eric Mc

122,086 posts

266 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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The Guinness was definitely off.

Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Eric Mc said:
In the context of the times it would have meant a lot to him and his followers. In fact, it was the driving force behind his actions. As Halb said, at least he had "conviction".
It's bizarre that Cromwell should appear as any kind of positive reference in a thread about Trump! biggrin

Eric Mc

122,086 posts

266 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Escapegoat said:
Eric Mc said:
In the context of the times it would have meant a lot to him and his followers. In fact, it was the driving force behind his actions. As Halb said, at least he had "conviction".
It's bizarre that Cromwell should appear as any kind of positive reference in a thread about Trump! biggrin
As I said, his comments in Parliament back then are still appropriate. In fact, a version of those words was also used in the House of Commons in 1940 when many members wanted Chamberlain to resign (which he eventually did).

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Escapegoat said:
It's bizarre that Cromwell should appear as any kind of positive reference in a thread about Trump! biggrin
It’s a topsy-turvy world, right enough

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Cromwell did help establish the supremacy of parliament over absolute rule.

Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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vonuber said:
Cromwell did help establish the supremacy of parliament over absolute rule.
But did he make the trains to run on time? wink

Ructions

4,705 posts

122 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Escapegoat said:
Eric Mc said:
In the context of the times it would have meant a lot to him and his followers. In fact, it was the driving force behind his actions. As Halb said, at least he had "conviction".
It's bizarre that Cromwell should appear as any kind of positive reference in a thread about Trump! biggrin
Especially from an alleged Irish man.

Oddly enough I was at the Fleadh in Drogheda last night, one of the towns that Cromwell sacked.

Eric Mc

122,086 posts

266 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Ructions said:
Especially from an alleged Irish man.

Oddly enough I was at the Fleadh in Drogheda last night, one of the towns that Cromwell sacked.
I'm not sure they've rebuilt Drogheda yet smile

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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It would be interesting as to how the UK would be if the revolution had stuck.

Byker28i

60,238 posts

218 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Escapegoat said:
So, the Manafort trial jury is deliberating for a second day. Fox says the jury is arguing about what constitutes "reasonable doubt" - and has written to the judge to ask for clarification. Fox also says that a unanimous verdict is required (I'm not familiar enough with US law to know if majority decisions might be acceptable).

Twelve good men (and women) and true? Let's hope so, but given the polarising effect of Trump, is it possible that a couple of Trumpette hold-outs on the jury could let Manafort off the hook?

Not all members of a jury take their role as seriously as you'd want - UK reminder: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jun/16/faceboo...
Thats not what I read about the majority Is this Fox trying to put on a positive spin?
A juror has asked the judge what reasonable doubt means, as this is the only defence Manaforts team have put forward.

So the President’s campaign chairman is waiting to find out if he’s going to prison.
One of the architects of the Bin Laden raid is daring the president to take his clearances.
One of trumps reality show contestant/WH employees has tape of $180K offer she got to stay quiet
She's also reported to have over 200 taped conversations
Edit: Oh and trumps pick for the Supreme court has been found to have lied to the senate


You've got to love trump Fridays.

Eric Mc

122,086 posts

266 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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As ever, effective succession was the problem. Having got rid of a hereditary monarch, Cromwell's successor on death was his own son, Richard (Tumbledown Dick).

So, even Parliamentarians were not sure that this was what their "revolution" was supposed to have been about. So a typical English compromise was reached and the monarchy returned but severely constrained.

Byker28i

60,238 posts

218 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Mueller wants to use more than 1000 pieces of evidence in Manaforts federal trial
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/16/mueller-proposes-1...

LoonyTunes

3,362 posts

76 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Escapegoat said:
vonuber said:
Cromwell did help establish the supremacy of parliament over absolute rule.
But did he make the trains to run on time? wink
Even Cromwell's God couldn't do that. And he's been prayed to enough times with that actual request by the season ticket holders.

Ructions

4,705 posts

122 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Eric Mc said:
Ructions said:
Especially from an alleged Irish man.

Oddly enough I was at the Fleadh in Drogheda last night, one of the towns that Cromwell sacked.
I'm not sure they've rebuilt Drogheda yet smile
You haven’t lived until you’ve seen Oliver Plunkett’s head. Drogheda’s main tourist attraction.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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vonuber said:
It would be interesting as to how the UK would be if the revolution had stuck.
If only...if only these guys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levellers
or these guys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diggers
had had more sway...if I'd been around at that time I'd have been with them....or been killed for being a biggob.

Superflow

1,421 posts

133 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Eric Mc said:
Good.

I just thought that the quote was appropriate to the behaviour of the current incumbent of the White House and his team of reprobates.

It wasn't an endoresment of Oliver Cromwell and all the terrible things he did - both in England and Ireland.
Eric, that quote would fit very nicely with Blair and his bunch of crooks who virtually bankrupted UK plc not to mention Iraq and Afghanistan.

On the news yesterday the US economy up by 4.1% growth and rates going well also,credit where credit is due to uncle Donald some on here have a terminal case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

minimoog

6,897 posts

220 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Superflow said:
Trump Derangement Syndrome.
What does this phrase actually mean to you in the context of the discussions we've been having here recently?

I ask because it's usually the preserve of dheads, and I'm assuming you're not one.

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