45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)

[paulguitar]

Greg66 said:

MSNBC reporting that the WH says Rosenstein was coming to the WH to tender his resignation.

But also that the DOJ says that he was going to the WH to be fired.

And now it seems he still has his job - for now.

Sounds like he turned out, said "I'm not resigning. Fire me if you want me out" and the WH said "Ummm, can we get back to you about that?". IOW, someone managed to persuade Trump that the optics of firing Rosenstein right now were so terrible he would be better to hold off.

The orange turd probably needs to ask Hannity what to do.

[p1stonhead]

paulguitar said:

Greg66 said:

MSNBC reporting that the WH says Rosenstein was coming to the WH to tender his resignation.

But also that the DOJ says that he was going to the WH to be fired.

And now it seems he still has his job - for now.

Sounds like he turned out, said "I'm not resigning. Fire me if you want me out" and the WH said "Ummm, can we get back to you about that?". IOW, someone managed to persuade Trump that the optics of firing Rosenstein right now were so terrible he would be better to hold off.

The orange turd probably needs to ask Hannity what to do.

If only this wasn’t serious but I read he actually does!

[voyds9]

Byker28i said:

meanwhile
Trump started his day at Trump Tower in New York. This is Trump's 204th day at a Trump property as president and his 156th day at a Trump golf club as president.

And despite the efforts of the rest of the legislature and civil service the country still keeps running.

Just shows how gullible the public has been with other presidents. They had the rest of the government behind them and achieved even less.

[andy_s]

voyds9 said:

Byker28i said:

meanwhile
Trump started his day at Trump Tower in New York. This is Trump's 204th day at a Trump property as president and his 156th day at a Trump golf club as president.

And despite the efforts of the rest of the legislature and civil service the country still keeps running.

Just shows how gullible the public has been with other presidents. They had the rest of the government behind them and achieved even less.

I said just after the election that Trump puts the lie to all politicians.

[Hilts]

The Donald getting some love.

Not sure if someone wrote Donald and then got trolled.

[anonymous-user]

p1stonhead said:

paulguitar said:

Greg66 said:

MSNBC reporting that the WH says Rosenstein was coming to the WH to tender his resignation.

But also that the DOJ says that he was going to the WH to be fired.

And now it seems he still has his job - for now.

Sounds like he turned out, said "I'm not resigning. Fire me if you want me out" and the WH said "Ummm, can we get back to you about that?". IOW, someone managed to persuade Trump that the optics of firing Rosenstein right now were so terrible he would be better to hold off.

The orange turd probably needs to ask Hannity what to do.

If only this wasn’t serious but I read he actually does!

You want weird? Here's weird.

In June Hannity said RR should either resign or be fired: http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/06/13/sean-hannity...

But on Friday of last week, he said RR should NOT be fired, because he fears that the wiretapping story is actually a huge set up to provoke Trump into doing precisely that, and thereby paint himself as re-enacting Nixon's Friday night massacre: https://mic.com/articles/191470/hannity-to-trump-d...

Fortunately Trumpo is level headed and largely immune to conspiracy theories.

Oh, wait....

[NRS]

Anyone know what Noel Francisco is like as a person (assuming he does actually take over from Rosenstein)?

[paulguitar]

voyds9 said:

Byker28i said:

meanwhile
Trump started his day at Trump Tower in New York. This is Trump's 204th day at a Trump property as president and his 156th day at a Trump golf club as president.

And despite the efforts of the rest of the legislature and civil service the country still keeps running.

Just shows how gullible the public has been with other presidents. They had the rest of the government behind them and achieved even less.

It's very hard to think of anyone who has achieved less than trump. He spends most of his time playing golf and watching TV. Finds time for occasional dumb and offensive tweets.

[NRS]

paulguitar said:

It's very hard to think of anyone who has achieved less than trump. He spends most of his time playing golf and watching TV. Finds time for occasional dumb and offensive tweets.

Depends how you look at it. He's done a lot for his supporters:

Out of Paris (waste of money)
Taking on China and other countries on tariffs to stop America being screwed over
Taken on money being stored outside of US (tax breaks, around 0.5 trillion dollars back into States)
Reducing red tape for businesses etc
Partly affected Obamacare, not there yet though
Making a lot of noise about the poor Americans being left behind (raising awareness, making them feel noticed)
Being tough on immigration, seen to do something about it

He has done quite a lot, albeit quite a lot there is reversing previous stuff, but many of his supporters wanted that, so he has been effective for them.

Way too many people here seem to be viewing progress as "same as before" - in which case he's not done much. But he's not aiming for that. He's also not aiming for "liberal" stuff like more rights for everyone etc. I suspect quite a lot he's just doing it because he enjoys the attention, rather than really believing some of it. However stuff like the trade war with China I believe he does believe in, even if many in his party are less for it, but let it continue as overall he distracts from them for any bad press.

[Byker28i]

Does this mean that this time the child has spared the rod?

[Countdown]

Greg66 said:

According to the NY Post:

Under the Federal Vacancies Reform Act, Trump has the power to appoint an acting AG if it’s a resignation.

If he is fired, the process is murkier and governed by federal employment laws.

So it is possible that Rosenstein knows he is out and is trying to force a sacking in order to slow the replacement process. It may also explain why there are reports that he verbally resigned on Friday, so the WH can claim that today it accepted that resignation and can move to appoint an acting DAG.

I would have thought that sacking Rosenstein in order nakedly to appoint a successor who will fulfil Trump's wishes to shut down Mueller's enquiry is a pretty dangerous game for Trump to play. In most versions of normal reality a large chunk of his party would react negatively to that and up the chances of impeachment. In the current crazytown version of DC though, I'm not so sure.

Sacking RR, replacing him with somebody more malleable, and then shutting down the Mueller enquiry will generate a lot of heat. For about a week. Then, as with all the other things that Trump has done, everybody will move on.

[Byker28i]

NRS said:

Anyone know what Noel Francisco is like as a person (assuming he does actually take over from Rosenstein)?

Politico did a piece on him previously - now updated/refreshed

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/17/rosenste...

Edit:

Ted Lieu
‏Verified account @tedlieu
3h3 hours ago

Ted Lieu Retweeted Walter Shaub

If Rosenstein departs, Noel Francisco should not oversee the Special Counsel investigation. His previous firm Jones Day represents the @realDonaldTrump campaign in the Special Counsel investigation. This is a huge conflict of interest.

Edited by Byker28i on Monday 24th September 20:08

[Byker28i]

Looks like it was all an attempt to take Kavenaugh out the news until thursday?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/trump-want...

Kavanaugh won't pull his name



"I will not be intimidated into withdrawing from this process. The coordinated effort to destroy my good name will not drive me out... The last-minute character assassination will not succeed."

Fine, lets have an FBI investigation to clear his name then...

[Byker28i]

900 signatures on a letter from Yale supporting that Kavanaugh accusations be fully investigated

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/...

[Byker28i]

Reports that Yale has canceled classes so that students can protest the Brett Kavanaugh nomination.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/24/yale-law-scho...

[Byker28i]

Warren Leight
‏Verified account @warrenleightTV
1h1 hour ago

Kavanaugh Latest: "The coordinated effort to destroy my good name will not drive me out," said the former member of the 100Keg Club, the DKE fraternity, and the Tit and Clit Club.

[ScudNorth]

Police are looking into yet another potential sexual assault committed by Kavanaugh when he was in high school. If you're keeping score, there's Dr. Ford at that party, Deborah Ramirez in college, Micheal Avenatti's gang rape allegations, plus this new one.

https://mont.thesentinel.com/2018/09/24/supreme-co...

[Byker28i]

There's a lot of the private letters and info to Grassleys that keeps coming out. The latest is a letter from Ford direct to him

https://mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/104...

"While I am frightened, please know, my fear will not hold me back from testifying."

[Gameface]

Certainly more eloquent than her president.

[andy_s]

Byker28i said:

There's a lot of the private letters and info to Grassleys that keeps coming out. The latest is a letter from Ford direct to him

https://mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/104...

"While I am frightened, please know, my fear will not hold me back from testifying."

That's a very dignified letter, fair play.