45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)
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king defensive! This is one hell of a show.......
I suspect the Truth, as always, lies somewhere in the grey areas between two peoples emotions, impressions and now memories of a moment all that time ago.
IMO, there is sufficient evidence, including his own testimony, to suggest that the young Kavanaugh was a bit of a party lad, liked his drink, maybe saw women as just sex objects, as often is the case with young men. Imo, if we take the event at just face value, a drunken lad pushes a drunken girl onto a bed at a party, then there is room for both sides of the story to be true, in that i can easily believe that even if the event happened, to Kavanaugh it was just a bit of fun, horse play, probably nothing that much out of the norm.
Guys in college are often physical, testosterone flowing, young men trying to be "alpha males", trying to find their place in the hierarchy of life, so i can believe that a level of physical violence of which that the young kavanaugh though "nothing" could have easily been felt to have been truly frightening by the female recipient. And therefore, it is entirely possibly that one person remembers the event, it stained hard into their memory by fear, whilst the other may have forgotten it almost immediately and it may have become blurred with other similar memories (ie messing around, drunk at parties)
Fast forwards 30 years and i can believe that even if it did happen, and i personally suspect something happened, Kavanaugh may truly believe it didn't as it could have been totally erased from his memory by the passage of time.
The most critical narrative, that of the only other eye witness is not being heard by the committee, which does seem to be a serious oversight to me (as does the lack of a proper, independent, evidence based investigation by the FBI etc)
I suspect the Truth, as always, lies somewhere in the grey areas between two peoples emotions, impressions and now memories of a moment all that time ago.
IMO, there is sufficient evidence, including his own testimony, to suggest that the young Kavanaugh was a bit of a party lad, liked his drink, maybe saw women as just sex objects, as often is the case with young men. Imo, if we take the event at just face value, a drunken lad pushes a drunken girl onto a bed at a party, then there is room for both sides of the story to be true, in that i can easily believe that even if the event happened, to Kavanaugh it was just a bit of fun, horse play, probably nothing that much out of the norm.
Guys in college are often physical, testosterone flowing, young men trying to be "alpha males", trying to find their place in the hierarchy of life, so i can believe that a level of physical violence of which that the young kavanaugh though "nothing" could have easily been felt to have been truly frightening by the female recipient. And therefore, it is entirely possibly that one person remembers the event, it stained hard into their memory by fear, whilst the other may have forgotten it almost immediately and it may have become blurred with other similar memories (ie messing around, drunk at parties)
Fast forwards 30 years and i can believe that even if it did happen, and i personally suspect something happened, Kavanaugh may truly believe it didn't as it could have been totally erased from his memory by the passage of time.
The most critical narrative, that of the only other eye witness is not being heard by the committee, which does seem to be a serious oversight to me (as does the lack of a proper, independent, evidence based investigation by the FBI etc)
"You can't handle the truth"...
I think he's over-playing it after his (Trump) critics said the TV interview was too unemotional.
I must say that if I was that upset about something and wanted to clear my name, I'd call in the FBI in a heart beat.
I think he's over-playing it after his (Trump) critics said the TV interview was too unemotional.
I must say that if I was that upset about something and wanted to clear my name, I'd call in the FBI in a heart beat.
Edited by andy_s on Thursday 27th September 21:53
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