45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)

[Gandahar]

I still do not understand why the Supreme Court of the United States, being such an important body, is chosen on a completely unbiased political viewpoint where the judges are appointed just on how good they are in judicial terms and not what they believe politically. They should be above the morass below them

I don't actually believe they should have so much power, not being directly appointed by the populous.

Let the entertainment continue though, that is what matters at the end of the day.

[Seventy]

This made for an interesting five minutes reading!!

https://twitter.com/hashtag/IBelieveKavanaugh?src=...

[jcremonini]

I think the fact Kavanaugh was unable to defend himself on a level headed, calm and reflective basis is enough for his nomination to be turned down regardless of his guilt. Unbelievable that the highest court in the land are even considering him (though I can quite see why Trump wants him - almost two peas in a pod).

[Gandahar]

jcremonini said:

I think the fact Kavanaugh was unable to defend himself on a level headed, calm and reflective basis is enough for his nomination to be turned down regardless of his guilt. Unbelievable that the highest court in the land are even considering him (though I can quite see why Trump wants him - almost two peas in a pod).

Indeed, you cannot imagine these bad boyz and girlz getting too heated during a cross examination

https://www.supremecourt.uk/about/biographies-of-t...

[MC Bodge]

jcremonini said:

I think the fact Kavanaugh was unable to defend himself on a level headed, calm and reflective basis is enough for his nomination to be turned down regardless of his guilt. Unbelievable that the highest court in the land are even considering him (though I can quite see why Trump wants him - almost two peas in a pod).

It did all seem quite un-Supreme-Court-like, or maybe I'm just out of touch?

[ecurie]

p1stonhead said:

Flake has confirmed he will vote for Kavanaugh. It’s a done deal.

Flake being what he truly is : all talk, no trousers.

[Challo]

ecurie said:

p1stonhead said:

Flake has confirmed he will vote for Kavanaugh. It’s a done deal.

Flake being what he truly is : all talk, no trousers.

Spineless. Comes across as the big rebel, but votes along party lines.

[Challo]

Halb said:

Susan Collins, is the senator that was interviewed by the circus, she seems to be genuinely undecided.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/28/senate-judiciary-c...

From what I read she will vote on how she thinks this will impact her chance of being reelected.

[ReaperCushions]

MC Bodge said:

jcremonini said:

I think the fact Kavanaugh was unable to defend himself on a level headed, calm and reflective basis is enough for his nomination to be turned down regardless of his guilt. Unbelievable that the highest court in the land are even considering him (though I can quite see why Trump wants him - almost two peas in a pod).

It did all seem quite un-Supreme-Court-like, or maybe I'm just out of touch?

Its the exact approach and attitude that the Trump government likes and supports. It has become the norm to act like this in government. We are rolling back 30 years of progress against angry privileged bullies who are used to getting their own way. You only have to see Sen Grahams 5 minute rant yesterday. Get angry and you get the headlines.

[DMN]

After confirming he will vote in favour, Jeff Flake runs into two sexual assault survivors in a lift. It does not go well for him:

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1045673959159517184

[Zod]

Gandahar said:

I still do not understand why the Supreme Court of the United States, being such an important body, is chosen on a completely unbiased political viewpoint where the judges are appointed just on how good they are in judicial terms and not what they believe politically. They should be above the morass below them

I don't actually believe they should have so much power, not being directly appointed by the populous.

Let the entertainment continue though, that is what matters at the end of the day.

It fatally undermines the separation of powers, but I don't think the populace should appoint judges. That would still mean the appointment was political.

[T0MMY]

Zod said:

It fatally undermines the separation of powers, but I don't think the populace should appoint judges. That would still mean the appointment was political.

Seems to me that supreme court judges should only be appointed with some level of support from the minority party, that way they could never be entirely partisan picks and must have a modicum of centrism. You could say 33% or something, maybe even less, just enough that you can't push through a blatant partisan just because you hold a senate majority.

[Halb]

Judges should probably be decided within their ranks, from their own pool by judges who have been judging for decades. Really separate from politics.

Challo said:

From what I read she will vote on how she thinks this will impact her chance of being reelected.

if it's the will of the people, that'd be ok, if it's the will of business interests, not so much.

[p1stonhead]

Anyone who talks about god this much should not be allowed anywhere near a judges chair.

[Nickgnome]

p1stonhead said:

Anyone who talks about god this much should not be allowed anywhere near a judges chair.

Absolutely. But it is the USA. Wearing faith on their sleeve is a badge of honour.

[p1stonhead]

Nickgnome said:

p1stonhead said:

Anyone who talks about god this much should not be allowed anywhere near a judges chair.

Absolutely. But it is the USA. Wearing faith on their sleeve is a badge of honour.

I do forget sometimes how different we are in so many ways, to Americans.

[MC Bodge]

Nickgnome said:

p1stonhead said:

Anyone who talks about god this much should not be allowed anywhere near a judges chair.

Absolutely. But it is the USA. Wearing faith on their sleeve is a badge of honour.

I do wonder how many of them and how many of the people they are addressing actually believe it, rather than just go along with it because that's what they've always done.

As a British man who has no religion I find it cringe-worthy.

[djc206]

MC Bodge said:

I do wonder how many of them and how many of the people they are addressing actually believe it, rather than just go along with it because that's what they've always done.

As a British man who has no religion I find it cringe-worthy.

I doubt many in power are actually believers. A lot of the population is so those at the top need to keep up the act.

I can’t for a second imagine Donald Trump actually praying, he thinks he’s god, he doesn’t need one.

[ReaperCushions]

Anyone watching this live? Very dramatic happenings, the vote was supposed to happen 10 minutes ago. Jeff Flake leaves with his long time Dem friend Coons and doesn't yet return. Dems walk about, Reps left twiddling their thumbs.

[MC Bodge]

djc206 said:

MC Bodge said:

I do wonder how many of them and how many of the people they are addressing actually believe it, rather than just go along with it because that's what they've always done.

As a British man who has no religion I find it cringe-worthy.

I doubt many in power are actually believers. A lot of the population is so those at the top need to keep up the act.

I can’t for a second imagine Donald Trump actually praying, he thinks he’s god, he doesn’t need one.

Well, yes. The people in power feel obliged to appear pious.

There must be enough religious folk to demand it, I suppose, although US men I've met don't appear to be God fearing, even if they do attend church with their families.


Trump's efforts surely can't fool anybody, but so long as he appears anti abortion (and pro guns?), even if he doesn't do a convincing line in "family values" they presumably just go along with him.