45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)
Discussion
anonymous said:
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As a candidate, Trump vowed not to touch Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security. As president, he has offered budget proposals that would slash all three programs. Republicans have unveiled budget blueprints that include drastic cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, the federal-state healthcare program for the poor.
anonymous said:
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Clever when you think of it. Give yourself and donors large tax breaks enforcing why they gave large donations to get you into power, even though it increases the deficit, which every analyst told them it would, Use this as a justification to force through spending cuts on social policies that are unpopular with your base/donors.The Dangerous Elk said:
wsurfa said:
This type of dumb s
t really allows the orange fool to muddy the waters and makes it more likely he'll roughly foist himself on the US at the next election.
Exactly, but my post has drawn out the blinkered.t really allows the orange fool to muddy the waters and makes it more likely he'll roughly foist himself on the US at the next election.after I pick up my eyes, which have fallen out of my head from rolling too much.
_dobbo_ said:
The Dangerous Elk said:
wsurfa said:
This type of dumb st really allows the orange fool to muddy the waters and makes it more likely he'll roughly foist himself on the US at the next election.
Exactly, but my post has drawn out the blinkered.t really allows the orange fool to muddy the waters and makes it more likely he'll roughly foist himself on the US at the next election.after I pick up my eyes, which have fallen out of my head from rolling too much.
_dobbo_ said:
The Dangerous Elk said:
wsurfa said:
This type of dumb st really allows the orange fool to muddy the waters and makes it more likely he'll roughly foist himself on the US at the next election.
t really allows the orange fool to muddy the waters and makes it more likely he'll roughly foist himself on the US at the next election.The Dangerous Elk said:
_dobbo_ said:
The Dangerous Elk said:
wsurfa said:
This type of dumb st really allows the orange fool to muddy the waters and makes it more likely he'll roughly foist himself on the US at the next election.
Exactly, but my post has drawn out the blinkered.t really allows the orange fool to muddy the waters and makes it more likely he'll roughly foist himself on the US at the next election.after I pick up my eyes, which have fallen out of my head from rolling too much.
_dobbo_ said:
The Dangerous Elk said:
wsurfa said:
This type of dumb st really allows the orange fool to muddy the waters and makes it more likely he'll roughly foist himself on the US at the next election.
t really allows the orange fool to muddy the waters and makes it more likely he'll roughly foist himself on the US at the next election.What else does Trump have to do before the GOP finally decide they've had enough of him? Every day seems to be a new low point, but surely willingness to serve as PR puppet for a regime that's just dismembered someone alive has to be some sort of tipping point? Seeing a man who has spent years leading crowds in chants of "lock her up!" suddenly complaining about innocent until proven guilty would be amusing were the circumstances not so horrific.
Surely we're at the point now where we can safely determine who has been bought and paid for by how they react to this? I don't see how any sane person can stand behind Trump's absurd "rogue killer" idea, or the fact someone in the office of POTUS would even consider that sort of response, yet here we are.
Surely we're at the point now where we can safely determine who has been bought and paid for by how they react to this? I don't see how any sane person can stand behind Trump's absurd "rogue killer" idea, or the fact someone in the office of POTUS would even consider that sort of response, yet here we are.
My take on it is that he's both a useful distraction and extremely easy to manipulate if you have access to him, so I think he's a useful tool for the senior GOP people around him. They can pass whatever legislation they want whislt everyone is being distracted by his antics, and ultimately if he becomes a liability, they'll just throw him under the bus and blame everything on him, leaving them Scot free.
Edited by Tallow on Wednesday 17th October 13:33
AP: Did they raise this idea of rogue killers in any of those conversations?
Trump: Well, the concept of it, I guess. Yesterday, when I spoke with the father, not so much today, but when I spoke to the father, it just sounded to me like he felt like he did not do it. He did not know about it and it sounded like, you know, the concept of rogue killers.
it just sounded to me like he felt like he did not do it....
So the US runs on trumps feelings, not the evidence...
https://apnews.com/a28cc17d27524050b37f4d91e087955...
Why could he possibly be stalling or covering...
Trump Jr. and Other Aides Met With Gulf Emissary Offering Help to Win Election
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/tru...
Trump: Well, the concept of it, I guess. Yesterday, when I spoke with the father, not so much today, but when I spoke to the father, it just sounded to me like he felt like he did not do it. He did not know about it and it sounded like, you know, the concept of rogue killers.
it just sounded to me like he felt like he did not do it....
So the US runs on trumps feelings, not the evidence...
https://apnews.com/a28cc17d27524050b37f4d91e087955...
Why could he possibly be stalling or covering...
Trump Jr. and Other Aides Met With Gulf Emissary Offering Help to Win Election
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/tru...
Byker28i said:
AP: Did they raise this idea of rogue killers in any of those conversations?
Trump: Well, the concept of it, I guess. Yesterday, when I spoke with the father, not so much today, but when I spoke to the father, it just sounded to me like he felt like he did not do it. He did not know about it and it sounded like, you know, the concept of rogue killers.
it just sounded to me like he felt like he did not do it....
So the US runs on trumps feelings, not the evidence...
https://apnews.com/a28cc17d27524050b37f4d91e087955...
Why could he possibly be stalling or covering...
Trump Jr. and Other Aides Met With Gulf Emissary Offering Help to Win Election
"Three months before the 2016 election, a small group gathered at Trump Tower to meet with Donald Trump Jr.... The emissary, George Nader, told Trump that the princes who led Saudi Arabia and UAE were eager to help his father win election as president."
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/tru...
Trump: Well, the concept of it, I guess. Yesterday, when I spoke with the father, not so much today, but when I spoke to the father, it just sounded to me like he felt like he did not do it. He did not know about it and it sounded like, you know, the concept of rogue killers.
it just sounded to me like he felt like he did not do it....
So the US runs on trumps feelings, not the evidence...
https://apnews.com/a28cc17d27524050b37f4d91e087955...
Why could he possibly be stalling or covering...
Trump Jr. and Other Aides Met With Gulf Emissary Offering Help to Win Election
"Three months before the 2016 election, a small group gathered at Trump Tower to meet with Donald Trump Jr.... The emissary, George Nader, told Trump that the princes who led Saudi Arabia and UAE were eager to help his father win election as president."
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/tru...
Byker28i said:
AP: Did they raise this idea of rogue killers in any of those conversations?
Trump: Well, the concept of it, I guess. Yesterday, when I spoke with the father, not so much today, but when I spoke to the father, it just sounded to me like he felt like he did not do it. He did not know about it and it sounded like, you know, the concept of rogue killers.
it just sounded to me like he felt like he did not do it....
So the US runs on trumps feelings, not the evidence...
https://apnews.com/a28cc17d27524050b37f4d91e087955...
Why could he possibly be stalling or covering...
Trump Jr. and Other Aides Met With Gulf Emissary Offering Help to Win Election
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/tru...
I'm sure it's merely coincidence that in a climate of Trump repeatedly attacking media outlets and journalists for publishing "fake news" and making him look bad, a journalist who has previously criticized Trump, who wrote for a paper that's been heavily criticized by Trump and which is owned by a man who has also been heavily criticized by Trump should have been killed by a regime loved by Trump. You'd have to be some sort of conspiracy loon to even start to think that looked a bit fishy.Trump: Well, the concept of it, I guess. Yesterday, when I spoke with the father, not so much today, but when I spoke to the father, it just sounded to me like he felt like he did not do it. He did not know about it and it sounded like, you know, the concept of rogue killers.
it just sounded to me like he felt like he did not do it....
So the US runs on trumps feelings, not the evidence...
https://apnews.com/a28cc17d27524050b37f4d91e087955...
Why could he possibly be stalling or covering...
Trump Jr. and Other Aides Met With Gulf Emissary Offering Help to Win Election
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/tru...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-ea...
anonymous said:
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Clever would be that a bunch of petrol heads on a motoring forum didn't see straight through it the moment it was announced 
What never ceases to amaze me with this administration is just how brazen the tactics are, in spite of the greatest scrutiny we have probably ever seen. I do hope Mueller proves me wrong but Trump is almost looking untouchable. There have been so many potential tipping points but it just seems to make him feel more indestructible and be more brazen!
jsf said:
The west has been turning a blind eye to the atrocities enacted on their citizens for decades.
They hold public beheadings regularly. No one in power cares.
In fairness, if the death penalty is a judicial outcome provided-for by law, I have no problem with public beheadings as a way of achieving that end. It is no less humane than any other form of death penalty.They hold public beheadings regularly. No one in power cares.
If the public beheadings are arbitrary and extra-judicial then that's a different matter, except insofar as their being public makes no difference.
There are many "civilised" nations who retain the death penalty.
skwdenyer said:
jsf said:
The west has been turning a blind eye to the atrocities enacted on their citizens for decades.
They hold public beheadings regularly. No one in power cares.
In fairness, if the death penalty is a judicial outcome provided-for by law, I have no problem with public beheadings as a way of achieving that end. It is no less humane than any other form of death penalty.They hold public beheadings regularly. No one in power cares.
If the public beheadings are arbitrary and extra-judicial then that's a different matter, except insofar as their being public makes no difference.
There are many "civilised" nations who retain the death penalty.
Zod said:
skwdenyer said:
jsf said:
The west has been turning a blind eye to the atrocities enacted on their citizens for decades.
They hold public beheadings regularly. No one in power cares.
In fairness, if the death penalty is a judicial outcome provided-for by law, I have no problem with public beheadings as a way of achieving that end. It is no less humane than any other form of death penalty.They hold public beheadings regularly. No one in power cares.
If the public beheadings are arbitrary and extra-judicial then that's a different matter, except insofar as their being public makes no difference.
There are many "civilised" nations who retain the death penalty.
Pompeo after his meetings with Saudis:
Q: Did they say if Khashoggi is alive or dead?
Pompeo: "I don't want to talk about any of the facts. They didn't want to, either."
Well that was useful you going then...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/pompeo-saudis-didnt-...
Q: Did they say if Khashoggi is alive or dead?
Pompeo: "I don't want to talk about any of the facts. They didn't want to, either."
Well that was useful you going then...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/pompeo-saudis-didnt-...
The Trumps misled investors over and over about the viability of their businesses in order to make money, according to a new ProPublica investigation. Over multiple deals around the world, key sales numbers were repeatedly overstated to fool investors.
https://features.propublica.org/trump-inc-podcast/...
https://features.propublica.org/trump-inc-podcast/...
Byker28i said:
Pompeo after his meetings with Saudis:
Q: Did they say if Khashoggi is alive or dead?
Pompeo: "I don't want to talk about any of the facts. They didn't want to, either."
Well that was useful you going then...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/pompeo-saudis-didnt-...
WTF???Q: Did they say if Khashoggi is alive or dead?
Pompeo: "I don't want to talk about any of the facts. They didn't want to, either."
Well that was useful you going then...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/pompeo-saudis-didnt-...
So you were sent to find out what happened but didn't bother to talk about it or any facts pertaining to it?
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