45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)

[anonymous-user]

It’s odd how the pro trump posters have all joined in the last year or so.

Vanden Saab
Dangerous Elk etc.

It’s good though because the last lot of pro trump posters got banned about that time.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 27th October 11:14

[Kinky]

Byker28i said:

If this was a muslim bomber, radicalised by a preacher, everyone would be up in arms. This is no different. A leader preaching hate

Exactly this!

[spaximus]

El stovey said:

It’s odd how the pro trump posters have all joined in the last year or so.

Vanden Saab
Dangerous Elk etc.

It’s good though because the last lot of pro trump posters got banned about that time.

Edited by El stovey on Saturday 27th October 11:14

Is it a good thing? In the states too many people felt their voices were not heard by either set of politicians. People outside the main cities felt isolated and unheard so when Trump came along he seemed to them an obvious choice as it gave them back their voice.

They had a vote he won and instead of the Democrats sucking it up and making sure they went out to win back the people that voted for Trump they did not. They attacked Trump which has had the opposite effect they wanted by Trump continuing the lie the media is against him and that dark forces are running the US. The senator who advocated the public to harangue those who worked for Trump in the stores, in the gas station out for a meal is that a good way to convince people their way is better?

Trumps approval is still high and the caravan of people being allowed to walk through several countries all determined to invade America, which appears to being whipped up by others, will just again make Trump appeal more to a lot of Americans.

Would Obama have allowed the 14000 marching to the border in? Of course not no president would and if they try to force past the border and the troops he has sent there open fire a lot will see that as Trump protecting them, whilst others will see it as cold blooded murder.

This reminds me of Brexit, there wasn't a lot of people allegedly supporting the leave camp, they kept quiet as to raise their voice meant they were met with cries of racism and how they were stupid by others.

Stifling opposing views is not a good way, having reasoned arguments is healthy, in the US because of Clinton calling Trump supporters deplorables for example, did she try to offer an alternative to what was developing, that deep polarisation which is happening and growing did they try reasoned persuasion, no they did not.

We see people on here who are obsessed with their hatred of Trump ignoring the fact the American people voted under their system and he won, do those people who voted for him have no right to decide their countries fate right or wrong which is the hallmark of a democracy or are the Democrats just going to continue to go after Trump yet offer no alternatives that would woo people back to them ?

Instead of stifling discussion it must take place otherwise how does anyone, as someone else posted get the middle sensible ground heard.

It is sad the US appears to be getting worse, but sometimes things have to get so bad before people realise what they were doing was stupid and a better way comes out it. What is troubling is that Clinton and Trump were both unsuitable to run the US and yet were chosen.

[Randy Winkman]

El stovey said:

It’s odd how the pro trump posters have all joined in the last year or so.

Vanden Saab
Dangerous Elk etc.

It’s good though because the last lot of pro trump posters got banned about that time.

Edited by El stovey on Saturday 27th October 11:14

And in this thread are making just about the worst excuses for anything I've ever heard.

"Don't blame the person that did it because anyone else could have done it".

[anonymous-user]

Kinky said:

Byker28i said:

If this was a muslim bomber, radicalised by a preacher, everyone would be up in arms. This is no different. A leader preaching hate

Exactly this!

+1

This is the direct result of Trumps populist rabble rousing style of leadership.

He praised the assault of a journalist, encouraged hatred against the clintons and constantly tries to marginalise the media.

It’s no surprise then when his simpler supporters do this kind of thing.

Now he’s blaming the media for the whole thing.

[anonymous-user]

spaximus said:

the caravan of people being allowed to walk through several countries all determined to invade America

Interesting use of the word "invade"........


I hope you are never forced through hunger, disease, politics, or war to leave your home and "invade" another country........

[anonymous-user]

fatbutt said:

99.9% agree with everything you said apart from the 'Deep in every one of us is an innate sense of morality, we KNOW what is right and what is wrong'. Sociopaths don't. I'm not saying Trump is one as I believe he's the very definition of a narcissist; but there are almost certainly a number of high functioning sociopaths in Trumps administration.

i think even sociopaths have morality, it's just they lack the empathy to ascribe that morality to others! Ie, punch a sociopath in the face and they hurt, but when they punch someone else, they can't "see" that the other persons hurts just like they do.....


;-)

[Halb]

so the bomb suspect has an interesting hairline

amusingly contradicting anecdotes from his fellow employees

- he was lovely the customers loved him

- he spewed hate , he wasn't right

[spaximus]

Max_Torque said:

spaximus said:

the caravan of people being allowed to walk through several countries all determined to invade America

Interesting use of the word "invade"........


I hope you are never forced through hunger, disease, politics, or war to leave your home and "invade" another country........

Not going to judge those people but what else would you call it? They have walked through other countries so far better than their own and have not been stopped or wanted to stay there. What would the UK Government do if the same was happening to us or as I asked Obama?

The US has a system of immigration that has been inplace many years and was seen by most to be fair basically the same as under all past presidents, these people feel they can just walk up to the border and be let in. regardless of why, this will in Trump supporters eyes justify the build the wall rhetoric and create more divisions in the US.

[silentbrown]

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

[Byker28i]

Randy Winkman said:

El stovey said:

It’s odd how the pro trump posters have all joined in the last year or so.

Vanden Saab
Dangerous Elk etc.

It’s good though because the last lot of pro trump posters got banned about that time.

Edited by El stovey on Saturday 27th October 11:14

And in this thread are making just about the worst excuses for anything I've ever heard.

"Don't blame the person that did it because anyone else could have done it".

Sanders called for a nonviolent protest similar to those staged by Martin Luther King to protest the heathcare bill and trumps budget.
Trumpettes use Hodgekinson as there whataboutism justification.

ttp://uk.businessinsider.com/jake-tapper-bernie-sanders-revolution-rhetoric-encourages-violence-2017-6

But, when did Bernie call Republicans “evil people?” like trump accuses all the time?
When did Bernie call the Press the “Enemy of the People?” like trump frequenly does
When did Bernie recommend a “2nd Amendment Solution?” like trump did against Clinton at election rallies?

[shakotan]

Byker28i said:

Fox ran images that were blurred, taken from angles that didn't show the details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPNUeGZgzhY

Twitter did nothing about the threats this man made.
trumps done nothing to stop the rhetoric

Those images aren't blurred, the van and stickers are the same crappy resolution as the rest of the surroundings, due to it being a zoomed image from a helicopter, which would have had the van obscured by foliage if it had moved around to the side.

I can't stand Trump, and I'm not defending or apologising for him, bit I don't believe those images are blurred at all.

[Seventy]

silentbrown][NOWIKI said:

Is that Trump's latest tweet?

[98elise]

shakotan said:

Byker28i said:

Fox ran images that were blurred, taken from angles that didn't show the details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPNUeGZgzhY

Twitter did nothing about the threats this man made.
trumps done nothing to stop the rhetoric

Those images aren't blurred, the van and stickers are the same crappy resolution as the rest of the surroundings, due to it being a zoomed image from a helicopter, which would have had the van obscured by foliage if it had moved around to the side.

I can't stand Trump, and I'm not defending or apologising for him, bit I don't believe those images are blurred at all.

Agreed.

[paulguitar]

98elise said:

shakotan said:

Byker28i said:

Fox ran images that were blurred, taken from angles that didn't show the details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPNUeGZgzhY

Twitter did nothing about the threats this man made.
trumps done nothing to stop the rhetoric

Those images aren't blurred, the van and stickers are the same crappy resolution as the rest of the surroundings, due to it being a zoomed image from a helicopter, which would have had the van obscured by foliage if it had moved around to the side.

I can't stand Trump, and I'm not defending or apologising for him, bit I don't believe those images are blurred at all.

Agreed.

The most amazing thing there is all of the comments saying this is all a 'left-wing liberal plot'. Truly astonishing how many nutters there are in the states, they really believe this stuff!

[Halb]

so what was his poster id here?

[Gameface]

Shooting at a synagogue.

MAGA

[Byker28i]

Gameface said:

Shooting at a synagogue.

MAGA

Possibly 8 dead, 3 police officers, suspect in custody
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/heavy-police-presence...

not much more on the AP or Reuters feed
https://apnews.com/23b04dc5e5af4129b544ab50cbba3dd...

[Byker28i]

There was this on wednesday as well
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/us/louisville-k...

[Byker28i]

The shooter is being identified as Robert Bowers,not a trump lover, had post 2hrs before blaming jewish immigration resettlement org for caravan, “likes to bring invaders in that kill our people”

https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/105620974...

his account is wiped now

Edit: someone grabbed and saved it
http://archive.is/k63LE

and trump thinks we have problems with homegrown terrorists...

Edited by Byker28i on Saturday 27th October 17:27