Elon Musk and Pedo Cave Rescuer Claim.

[Hoofy]

Personality really can have an affect on a product or service. For instance, I now cringe every time I see a Tesla. I also cringe every time I see a modern Tudor watch.

[alfaman]

Vanden Saab said:

Butter Face said:

I meant that he gives zero fks about being sued, he can afford to fight it until the end of time and it would be a drop in the ocean to him

He can and it is a drop in the ocean to him. The damage to his standing and reputation and those of any company or project he is involved with if he does fight it though will last forever regardless of whether he wins or loses he will lose.

Surprised if Musk doesn’t see this / or that his advisors aren’t telling him this.

..would be quite easy to agree a ‘face saving’ conclusion with the caver....

[PorkRind]

OpulentBob said:

Gameface said:

You know exactly what it means. Why pretend otherwise simply to be pedantic about American spelling?

Post count, innit.


And I hope Musk is pilloried for this. Exceptionally out of order.

Rar Rar Rar, I'm. Sure you've said worse to people or had worse said to you. People are so sensetive these days!

[WestyCarl]

Vanden Saab said:

Butter Face said:

I meant that he gives zero fks about being sued, he can afford to fight it until the end of time and it would be a drop in the ocean to him

He can and it is a drop in the ocean to him. The damage to his standing and reputation and those of any company or project he is involved with if he does fight it though will last forever regardless of whether he wins or loses he will lose.

My guess is Musk won't even be involved. His team of lawyers will "sort it", out of court settlement with an NDA.

Any damage to Musk is already done with the tweets.

[TooMany2cvs]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

From this BBC article, it seems that it's actually very difficult to sue for libel in the USA. If Elon Musk wants to be a complete and utter dick about it all (which I'm sure he does) then he can just throw money at lawyers instead of just settling.

...but the reverse of THIS...

Vaud said:

The car on a rocket was marketing genius (they spent no money on direct marketing that stunt, it was self fulfilling by the press)

...also applies.

The negative marketing by the press will be horrific as this all unfolds.

Then there's the harm that he's doing with the "taking it private" guff, and other things that are shaking investor confidence. If the SEC don't land on him hard over that, then it's not hard to see a couple more bits of negative publicity starting to affect the share price. And Tesla's VERY precariously funded... It may yet be that the only way to save the company is to get shot of Elon.

[Eric Mc]

He needs to be careful. He could end up being the US's Gerald Ratner.

[Butter Face]

The story has already been regulated as a footnote on other Musk related stories though..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-455...

[p1stonhead]

Eric Mc said:

He needs to be careful. He could end up being the US's Gerald Ratner.

He wont. Times have changed. Look at what Trump can get away with saying these days. Its a strange new world.

[Eric Mc]

We are talking shareholders here - not voters. They are, by nature, a much more cautious bunch - especially institutional shareholders.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

zubzob said:

That this thread gets more traffic than the spacex thread is also an example. I'd be suprised if the same were true on a US motoring forum. Brits are gossipy, jealous, little bhes.

Not sure if you are a troll or just a wker.

Musk has made unfounded allegations that this "brit" is a child molester and a rapist. Those are very, very serious allegations that can seriously affect someone's life. Not wanting to see this be buried is not "gossipy" or "jealous", it's decent. But then I guess Brits generally have a better moral compass than Americans.

[Kccv23highliftcam]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

zubzob said:

That this thread gets more traffic than the spacex thread is also an example. I'd be suprised if the same were true on a US motoring forum. Brits are gossipy, jealous, little bhes.

Not sure if you are a troll or just a wker.

Musk has made unfounded allegations that this "brit" is a child molester and a rapist. Those are very, very serious allegations that can seriously affect someone's life. Not wanting to see this be buried is not "gossipy" or "jealous", it's decent. But then I guess Brits generally have a better moral compass than Americans.

Life would be much better all round if people weren't so thin skinned.

Oh did Musk start it all off, I can't remember.....

[TooMany2cvs]

zubzob said:

It's a shame, but perhaps predictable given UK gossip culture, that most UK broadsheets have the pedo thing much higher up the list of headlines than the moon trip.

The moon trip is an utter non-story, an attempt to divert coverage.

"Rich person says he's booked for something that might not happen for many years, if ever."

It's not even a major first - he won't even land on the moon. The first pay-to-go passenger was in the 80s, with McDonnell Douglas paying for Charles Walker to go on the Shuttle - OK, he was a techie, but...

Rockwell had been looking at a passenger module for the Shuttle's load bay in the 70s, but it didn't come to anything. The teacher on the blown-up Shuttle, Christa McAuliffe, was a passenger just there for publicity in the US, while Dennis Tito paid to go to the ISS in 2001. There's even a full-fat commercial package tour company... http://www.spaceadventures.com/ - strangely, they're shy of quoting prices, but they do list a "circumlunar" package, which is exactly what this guy's booked for.

[TooMany2cvs]

zubzob said:

TooMany2cvs said:

The moon trip is an utter non-story, an attempt to divert coverage.

A multi billion pound project with no ground breaking elements at all. All designed to keep a tabloid gossip non-story out of the UK press for the next 5 years.

Spacex PR guy is a genius.

Today's "moon trip" story is no more than "Japanese billionaire says he's booked to go to the moon with SpaceX". It's just "We sold the tickets".

Today's "moon trip" story is not "SpaceX are thinking of going to the moon". That was February 2017's story - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-391...

Notice how, in just 18 months, it's slipped from "planned for late 2018" to "2023, but we're not sure it'll ever happen".

Oh, and in last February's article, Musk is quoted as saying it wouldn't have been possible without NASA's help.

[Oakey]

zubzob said:

You don't think UK press is more gossipy and sensationalist that most other countries?

I can't really defend Musk's comments on pedo guy. But I am free to criticise the press coverage of it.

I suppose the people get what the people want.

You can see how it becomes a problem, what with you referring to the bloke as 'pedo guy'.

[p1stonhead]

Oakey said:

zubzob said:

You don't think UK press is more gossipy and sensationalist that most other countries?

I can't really defend Musk's comments on pedo guy. But I am free to criticise the press coverage of it.

I suppose the people get what the people want.

You can see how it becomes a problem, what with you referring to the bloke as 'pedo guy'.

Indeed.

[Escapegoat]

Oakey said:

zubzob said:

You don't think UK press is more gossipy and sensationalist that most other countries?

I can't really defend Musk's comments on pedo guy. But I am free to criticise the press coverage of it.

I suppose the people get what the people want.

You can see how it becomes a problem, what with you referring to the bloke as 'pedo guy'.

^This. If zubzob had a bit more class than Musk, he would have done 10s of searching to find the name "Unsworth". Instead, all he remembered was the libellous slut and he repeated it.

[captain_cynic]

Escapegoat said:

^This. If zubzob had a bit more class than Musk, he would have done 10s of searching to find the name "Unsworth". Instead, all he remembered was the libellous slut and he repeated it.

I know you meant slur... but I'm ing

[TriumphStag3.0V8]

zubzob said:

You don't think UK press is more gossipy and sensationalist that most other countries?

I can't really defend Musk's comments on pedo guy. But I am free to criticise the press coverage of it.

I suppose the people get what the people want.

Is the press more gossipy and sensationalist in the UK than the US? I would say no. I have read magazines and "publications" in the US that I have looked at and thought WTF? especially gossip about the royal family that is blatantly sensationalist made up bullcrap. I have also watched a reasonable amount of chat shows in the US. I would say that both are similar levels of crap, with the US side being slightly worse.

As for defending Musk's comments on "pedo guy". His name is Unsworth and he is NOT a pedo guy, unless Musk can provide some evidence to back his allegations - that's the whole point here, dimwit.

To the poster who commented above, I am going with wker rather than troll.

[RJG46]

zubzob said:

Tallies with recent research showing Brits are amongst the most pessimistic people in the world.

What does this even mean? Where did you get this little titbit from?

Has Musk never failed to live up to one of his promises?

[TooMany2cvs]

RJG46 said:

zubzob said:

Tallies with recent research showing Brits are amongst the most pessimistic people in the world.

What does this even mean? Where did you get this little titbit from?

It was a thing, even if only part-remembered.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/br...

RJG46 said:

Has Musk never failed to live up to one of his promises?

Oooh, how CAN you suggest such a thing...?

Model 3 production...

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-tesla-trac...