Elon Musk and Pedo Cave Rescuer Claim.

Elon Musk and Pedo Cave Rescuer Claim.

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98elise

26,644 posts

162 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Talksteer said:
Blue62 said:
Whether Musk will give an F is not really the point is it? If there's any foundation to his allegation then ok, but if not then what a bizarre thing to do. I note that a lawsuit is being filed in the US and here and that he's suing for compensation and punitive damages, it could run well beyond the figures quoted.
Punitive damages are a US concept and are IMHO mental.

However in the US libel is very difficult to prove especially when the person in question is a "public person" which in this context the dude most certainly is as he was giving media interviews.

The general idea around things like this is sue and the person who whom $75,000 is peanuts will settle.

If you actually went to court with this your legal bills would be higher than any settlement which you almost certainly won't get.

If I were to speculate, Musk is obviously not stupid, or illogical nor does he engage in feuds yet he's not backing down and he's in fact raked this up more than once. He has been perfectly happy to back down (see loop pods as public transport vs cars on skates) and settle disputes (see farting unicorn).

The conclusion I've come to is: 1 he's probably been abused in some way hence it's personal. 2: He probably has some hearsay evidence.

In the US hearsay evidence is enough to bat away a libel accusation from a public figure.
He was certainly abused in some way by his father, but more mental than anything else. He does not have a good relationship with his father and he is not allowed to see Elons kids.

captain_cynic

12,066 posts

96 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Halb said:
captain_cynic said:
Stereotype.

Lives in Thailand == Must be peado.
that's thinner than slim. THat's the kind of stupid thing I'd expect in some threads in NPE, not from a 'smart' bloke.
You'd be surprised the number of people who are willing to believe it because of stereotypes. I don't think Musk is particularly smart or worldly so its exactly the logic I'd expect.

superlightr

12,856 posts

264 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Talksteer said:
Blue62 said:
Whether Musk will give an F is not really the point is it? If there's any foundation to his allegation then ok, but if not then what a bizarre thing to do. I note that a lawsuit is being filed in the US and here and that he's suing for compensation and punitive damages, it could run well beyond the figures quoted.
Punitive damages are a US concept and are IMHO mental.

However in the US libel is very difficult to prove especially when the person in question is a "public person" which in this context the dude most certainly is as he was giving media interviews.

The general idea around things like this is sue and the person who whom $75,000 is peanuts will settle.

If you actually went to court with this your legal bills would be higher than any settlement which you almost certainly won't get.

If I were to speculate, Musk is obviously not stupid, or illogical nor does he engage in feuds yet he's not backing down and he's in fact raked this up more than once. He has been perfectly happy to back down (see loop pods as public transport vs cars on skates) and settle disputes (see farting unicorn).

The conclusion I've come to is: 1 he's probably been abused in some way hence it's personal. 2: He probably has some hearsay evidence.

In the US hearsay evidence is enough to bat away a libel accusation from a public figure.
I would guess that's why a claim was made in the USA and the UK - the UK would not allow "heresay evidence" and Musk would have show he had proof to back up his comments.

As others have said unless he has some real proof he is going to be in difficulty.

Don1

15,952 posts

209 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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98elise said:
He was certainly abused in some way by his father, but more mental than anything else. He does not have a good relationship with his father and he is not allowed to see Elons kids.
However, when divorcing his wife the first time, Musk decided to take the logical step of talking to his kids, to explain......
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.......that she was dead. (She wasn't). A fine upstanding example of parenting there. Source: Popbh. (Before you sneer, see how often they have been sued in a decade+ of gossip mongering).

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

76 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Read it and weep.

At least he isn't a fking Nazi like Wernher von Braun.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Kccv23highliftcam said:


Read it and weep.
Published in 2015. Bit behind the times now, don'cha think?

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

76 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Kccv23highliftcam said:


Read it and weep.
Published in 2015. Bit behind the times now, don'cha think?
Nope.

Spanna

3,732 posts

177 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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alfaman said:
Spanna said:
Skimmed the thread but so many post are going on about him smoking weed in an interview.

It was a podcast. In California where weed is legal. He took one drag on a mild blunt. He didn’t even breathe the bh in. Who the hell cares? The whisky was fine though?
It shows a total lack of care from him about how he comes across - hence concerns about integrity and fitness as a CEO

Eg : from a shareholder perspective “ is this guy a safe pair of hands, is he credible, dependable and trustworthy ? Can he deliver? Is he competent ? Is he flaky ? Can he think straight ? Can he collaborate with various stakeholders “

If I had shares I’d be concerned about all of the above. (Not primarily because of the smoking )

Public dope smoking doesn’t exactly help though does it ? ... is he really that lacking in self awareness?

.... like turning up to a VC pitch in a mankini .... isn’t going to help your credibility

Edited by alfaman on Wednesday 19th September 03:22
What about the public drinking? Does that have the same effect?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Kccv23highliftcam said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Published in 2015. Bit behind the times now, don'cha think?
Nope.
Because there's not much happened to Musk professionally or personally in the last ~4 years since it was actually written...?

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

76 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Kccv23highliftcam said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Published in 2015. Bit behind the times now, don'cha think?
Nope.
Because there's not much happened to Musk professionally or personally in the last ~4 years since it was actually written...?
You tell me. well not that I'm actually interested in your thoughts mind you..

Cold

15,252 posts

91 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Kccv23highliftcam said:
You tell me. well not that I'm actually interested in your thoughts mind you..
So basically "la la laa, I'm not listening" .

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

76 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Cold said:
Kccv23highliftcam said:
You tell me. well not that I'm actually interested in your thoughts mind you..
So basically "la la laa, I'm not listening" .
I don't care. Feel free to throw a tantrum if you wish.



superlightr

12,856 posts

264 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Kccv23highliftcam said:


Read it and weep.

At least he isn't a fking Nazi like Wernher von Braun.
Eh? whats that got to do with jam and cream?

Are you a bit of a fan boye of Musk? He may be clever as fek but he is stupid as ste as well.

g7jhp

6,969 posts

239 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Don't upset the MUSK fan boys. biggrin


mcdjl

5,451 posts

196 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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superlightr said:
Eh? whats that got to do with jam and cream?

Are you a bit of a fan boye of Musk? He may be clever as fek but he is stupid as ste as well.
Its been said that all engineers are somewhere on the autistic spectrum (and find it hard to relate to people). Some find it possible to pass themselves off as normal people. Some are further along it than others and some autistic people make brilliant engineers, their attention to detail can be great.
I'm not saying anything about Musk though.

98elise

26,644 posts

162 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Don1 said:
98elise said:
He was certainly abused in some way by his father, but more mental than anything else. He does not have a good relationship with his father and he is not allowed to see Elons kids.
However, when divorcing his wife the first time, Musk decided to take the logical step of talking to his kids, to explain......
.
.
.
.
.......that she was dead. (She wasn't). A fine upstanding example of parenting there. Source: Popbh. (Before you sneer, see how often they have been sued in a decade+ of gossip mongering).
Popbh! Lol....sounds like a credible news source.

Dindoit

1,645 posts

95 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Don1 said:
Source: Popbh. (Before you sneer, see how often they have been sued in a decade+ of gossip mongering).
They've been sued and silenced plenty of times. Temporarily closed down and paid out. Get better sources.

RJG46

980 posts

69 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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98elise said:
He was certainly abused in some way by his father, but more mental than anything else. He does not have a good relationship with his father and he is not allowed to see Elons kids.
Did this give him the inspiration to go on to be the World's Biggest wker?

br d

8,403 posts

227 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Was growing all your hair back another one of his inventions?

Perhaps he went to turkey with Kez.

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

137 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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br d said:
Was growing all your hair back another one of his inventions?

Perhaps he went to turkey with Kez.
The hair was a better choice than wearing a stupid hat all the time like his brother Kimbal.

Plus it stopped him looking like the sort of person who flies to Thailand with a giant metal phallus to meet with a load of boys in a cave.