Another MP Accused of lying about speeding ticket.

[Pothole]

98elise said:

The transport Minster that did top gear had points on his licence for speeding.

It would have had zero effect on her as an MP or solicitor. It was monumentaly stupid of her to PCoJ rather than just accept a small fine.

Stupid, arrogant, narcissistic, a product of mental health issues? I guess we'll never know.

[eldar]

jakesmith said:

The book is called ‘Snakes and Adders - A Set up for the Step Up’.

Basically she is the only black MP and the establishment doesn’t like this and has pushed her out. It’s basically all because she is black.

Odd she has never heard of Diane Abbott. Amazingly, she makes DA look talented, insightful and modest.

A genuine achievement.

[anonymous-user]

eldar said:

jakesmith said:

The book is called ‘Snakes and Adders - A Set up for the Step Up’.

Basically she is the only black MP and the establishment doesn’t like this and has pushed her out. It’s basically all because she is black.

Odd she has never heard of Diane Abbott. Amazingly, she makes DA look talented, insightful and modest.

A genuine achievement.

Diane Abbot, David Lammy, Bernie Grant, Paul Boateng....

[mgtony]

Trevor Philips. Oh....

[Camelot1971]

Schmed said:

I’ve said it before I’ll say it again, s172 is fking outrageous in the modern age. I am quite frankly amazed more people haven’t woken up and noticed the complete removal of their rights to self incrimination as a defence being totally eradicated in a so-called ‘democratic’ state. At least in the US we have the fifth amendment, not in the USSR Cold War stasi UK.

It is just utterly scandalous. Still don’t let me spoil the party, she was clearly crazy to fight the system, get in line, bow down and pay the speeding tax.

How such a minor infraction is allowed to destroy someone’s career, livelihood and future employment prospects for something as inconsequential as 35 in a 30 just boils my piss, the idiocy of the defendant and perhaps a bit of lying aside.

Is she insane ? Probably yes, stupid and crazy perhaps. But the law is truly an arse in this case. Manifestly excessive to use PCOJ for something as inconsequential as speeding. Utterly outrageous.

Just when you think someone couldn't lower the moron bar further, along comes Schmed. Congrats!

[john41901]

Camelot1971 said:

Schmed said:

I’ve said it before I’ll say it again, s172 is fking outrageous in the modern age. I am quite frankly amazed more people haven’t woken up and noticed the complete removal of their rights to self incrimination as a defence being totally eradicated in a so-called ‘democratic’ state. At least in the US we have the fifth amendment, not in the USSR Cold War stasi UK.

It is just utterly scandalous. Still don’t let me spoil the party, she was clearly crazy to fight the system, get in line, bow down and pay the speeding tax.

How such a minor infraction is allowed to destroy someone’s career, livelihood and future employment prospects for something as inconsequential as 35 in a 30 just boils my piss, the idiocy of the defendant and perhaps a bit of lying aside.

Is she insane ? Probably yes, stupid and crazy perhaps. But the law is truly an arse in this case. Manifestly excessive to use PCOJ for something as inconsequential as speeding. Utterly outrageous.

Just when you think someone couldn't lower the moron bar further, along comes Schmed. Congrats!

S172 is an outrage. Why should I have to self incriminate myself on pain of a six penalty and fine ? At least they have the fifth amendment in the US.

Oh that's right, if we didn't have this particularly draconian piece of legislation our entire surveillance policing model would fall apart and the police would have to go back out patrolling and pulling people over to give them tickets at the roadside and it all might get a bit expensive...

[saaby93]

john41901 said:

Camelot1971 said:

Schmed said:

I’ve said it before I’ll say it again, s172 is fking outrageous in the modern age. I am quite frankly amazed more people haven’t woken up and noticed the complete removal of their rights to self incrimination as a defence being totally eradicated in a so-called ‘democratic’ state. At least in the US we have the fifth amendment, not in the USSR Cold War stasi UK.

It is just utterly scandalous. Still don’t let me spoil the party, she was clearly crazy to fight the system, get in line, bow down and pay the speeding tax.

How such a minor infraction is allowed to destroy someone’s career, livelihood and future employment prospects for something as inconsequential as 35 in a 30 just boils my piss, the idiocy of the defendant and perhaps a bit of lying aside.

Is she insane ? Probably yes, stupid and crazy perhaps. But the law is truly an arse in this case. Manifestly excessive to use PCOJ for something as inconsequential as speeding. Utterly outrageous.

Just when you think someone couldn't lower the moron bar further, along comes Schmed. Congrats!

S172 is an outrage. Why should I have to self incriminate myself on pain of a six penalty and fine ? At least they have the fifth amendment in the US.

Oh that's right, if we didn't have this particularly draconian piece of legislation our entire surveillance policing model would fall apart and the police would have to go back out patrolling and pulling people over to give them tickets at the roadside and it all might get a bit expensive...

Whoever was driving in this case, it's not clear the location of the camera met the guidelines for its installation.
Who polices that and what's the penalty

[Burwood]

saaby93 said:

john41901 said:

Camelot1971 said:

Schmed said:

I’ve said it before I’ll say it again, s172 is fking outrageous in the modern age. I am quite frankly amazed more people haven’t woken up and noticed the complete removal of their rights to self incrimination as a defence being totally eradicated in a so-called ‘democratic’ state. At least in the US we have the fifth amendment, not in the USSR Cold War stasi UK.

It is just utterly scandalous. Still don’t let me spoil the party, she was clearly crazy to fight the system, get in line, bow down and pay the speeding tax.

How such a minor infraction is allowed to destroy someone’s career, livelihood and future employment prospects for something as inconsequential as 35 in a 30 just boils my piss, the idiocy of the defendant and perhaps a bit of lying aside.

Is she insane ? Probably yes, stupid and crazy perhaps. But the law is truly an arse in this case. Manifestly excessive to use PCOJ for something as inconsequential as speeding. Utterly outrageous.

Just when you think someone couldn't lower the moron bar further, along comes Schmed. Congrats!

S172 is an outrage. Why should I have to self incriminate myself on pain of a six penalty and fine ? At least they have the fifth amendment in the US.

Oh that's right, if we didn't have this particularly draconian piece of legislation our entire surveillance policing model would fall apart and the police would have to go back out patrolling and pulling people over to give them tickets at the roadside and it all might get a bit expensive...

Whoever was driving in this case, it's not clear the location of the camera met the guidelines for its installation.
Who polices that and what's the penalty

trolling again

An eye witness put her at the scene, as was her mobile phone.

[eldar]

saaby93 said:

Whoever was driving in this case, it's not clear the location of the camera met the guidelines for its installation.
Who polices that and what's the penalty

Did you appear as an expert witness for the defence?

[saaby93]

eldar said:

saaby93 said:

Whoever was driving in this case, it's not clear the location of the camera met the guidelines for its installation.
Who polices that and what's the penalty

Did you appear as an expert witness for the defence?

The trial wasnt about speeding & camera so no need

[Pothole]

saaby93 said:

Whoever was driving in this case, it's not clear the location of the camera met the guidelines for its installation.
Who polices that and what's the penalty

I think only you care.

[AJL308]

98elise said:

Starfighter said:

I do wonder what proportion of MPs have been caught speeding and just filled in the paperwork and paid up?
No one gives a monkeys.

The transport Minster that did top gear had points on his licence for speeding.

It would have had zero effect on her as an MP or solicitor. It was monumentaly stupid of her to PCoJ rather than just accept a small fine.

It was her arrogance,, narcissism, misplaced sense of self importance that caused her to do it though. She has a personality disorder and probably made no effort to weigh up the advantages against disadvantages before embarking on the course of conduct she did. She got where she is because because the Labour party has a policy of employing women and minorities ahead of those who are actually capable of the job. She is thoroughly useless in all respects. She isn't even bright enough to concoct a story about her speeding ticket that wasn't utterly ludicrous and easy to rumble.

[AJL308]

mgtony said:

Trevor Philips. Oh....

He's the biggest racist in the world by all accounts now, I think?

[AJL308]

john41901 said:

Camelot1971 said:

Schmed said:

I’ve said it before I’ll say it again, s172 is fking outrageous in the modern age. I am quite frankly amazed more people haven’t woken up and noticed the complete removal of their rights to self incrimination as a defence being totally eradicated in a so-called ‘democratic’ state. At least in the US we have the fifth amendment, not in the USSR Cold War stasi UK.

It is just utterly scandalous. Still don’t let me spoil the party, she was clearly crazy to fight the system, get in line, bow down and pay the speeding tax.

How such a minor infraction is allowed to destroy someone’s career, livelihood and future employment prospects for something as inconsequential as 35 in a 30 just boils my piss, the idiocy of the defendant and perhaps a bit of lying aside.

Is she insane ? Probably yes, stupid and crazy perhaps. But the law is truly an arse in this case. Manifestly excessive to use PCOJ for something as inconsequential as speeding. Utterly outrageous.

Just when you think someone couldn't lower the moron bar further, along comes Schmed. Congrats!

S172 is an outrage. Why should I have to self incriminate myself on pain of a six penalty and fine ? At least they have the fifth amendment in the US.

Oh that's right, if we didn't have this particularly draconian piece of legislation our entire surveillance policing model would fall apart and the police would have to go back out patrolling and pulling people over to give them tickets at the roadside and it all might get a bit expensive...

Failing to fill in the NiP is one thing. Lying on it is quite another and significantly more serious!

[anonymous-user]

Schmed said:

I’ve said it before I’ll say it again, s172 is fking outrageous in the modern age. I am quite frankly amazed more people haven’t woken up and noticed the complete removal of their rights to self incrimination as a defence being totally eradicated in a so-called ‘democratic’ state. At least in the US we have the fifth amendment, not in the USSR Cold War stasi UK.

It is just utterly scandalous. Still don’t let me spoil the party, she was clearly crazy to fight the system, get in line, bow down and pay the speeding tax.

How such a minor infraction is allowed to destroy someone’s career, livelihood and future employment prospects for something as inconsequential as 35 in a 30 just boils my piss, the idiocy of the defendant and perhaps a bit of lying aside.

Is she insane ? Probably yes, stupid and crazy perhaps. But the law is truly an arse in this case. Manifestly excessive to use PCOJ for something as inconsequential as speeding. Utterly outrageous.

Yes, US law’s a lot better. God knows how we manage without the right to bear arms, eh?

‘the seeds of tragedy are there, in what we feel we have the right to bear.....’

But because we have to own up if we’re caught speeding and pay a paltry little fine, it’s outrageous?

Really?

[Digga]

AJL308 said:

mgtony said:

Trevor Philips. Oh....

He's the biggest racist in the world by all accounts now, I think?

IMHO the way the Labour party have treated him is disgraceful.

[eldar]

Digga said:

IMHO the way the Labour party have treated him is disgraceful.

Momentum, the tail furiously wagging the dog.

[james-witton]

She’s back.
It’s the gift that keeps on giving.
Now going on about monkeys on cereal packets.

[hidetheelephants]

james-witton said:

She’s back.
It’s the gift that keeps on giving.
Now going on about monkeys on cereal packets.

Is this it, she's going to futilely try to maintain some kind of public profile by spouting ste on ttter? She could always do a Hamilton and become a Welsh Kipper.

[Tom Logan]

james-witton said:

She’s back.
It’s the gift that keeps on giving.
Now going on about monkeys on cereal packets.

Read about this earlier in the week.

This demented bint and Lammy would make a well balanced couple, each with a chip on their shoulder.