Another MP Accused of lying about speeding ticket.

[saaby93]

Camoradi said:

but my final question above

"So why do you think she could not do so?"

I mean a busy MP, working hard for the people of her constituency, but she has this void in her busy schedule where no-one can come forward and say where she was, she can't for the life of her remember, coinciding with her car being clocked speeding...

That's really bad luck......

I didnt say 'I thought she could not do so'
If you look she did say so
She thought she was in Westminster (and took the form to her mothers house to see who else could have been using the car filledin the form)
She realised afterwards ( and too late) that was wrong - Westminster was in recess
There's no lies involved there or PCoJ. It's just how it is

Whether the jury thinks or knows something else we'll have to see

Edited by saaby93 on Tuesday 27th November 11:55

[poo at Paul's]

She's clearly totally innocent, and it was all the mean nasty men what did it. BEASTS!!

[Slaav]

Is it possible to apply to be on a jury?

[superlightr]

Slaav said:

Is it possible to apply to be on a jury?

ohh yes - put my name down as well pls.


Does she have any other points on licence, would this push her into a ban?

[Slaav]

superlightr said:

ohh yes - put my name down as well pls.


Does she have any other points on licence, would this push her into a ban?

Saaby, Want to join us for some balance and to at least give her a fair crack at avoiding a visit to Marble Arch?

[superlightr]

Slaav said:

superlightr said:

ohh yes - put my name down as well pls.


Does she have any other points on licence, would this push her into a ban?

Saaby, Want to join us for some balance and to at least give her a fair crack at avoiding a visit to Marble Arch?

but you don't know how I would cast my vote? All I can say is Speckled Jim. https://youtu.be/nPk43lZPkTI

[Willhire89]

Previous said:

It'll be a hung jury again next time I reckon.
As has already been posted. Jurors will make up their mind based on many factors.
Then they might listen to the arguments put forward by either side.

The Prosecution and Defence have effectively had a dry run - it will be clearer for them what resonates with a jury and what needs more exposure - they will also have an idea of weaker points in their counterparts arguments that can be exploited. If more evidence gathering is required that could I guess happen.

I assume for instance the former aide will be on the initial witness list not a latecomer

Who knows what extra can be offered by the two to make a difference

[Slaav]

superlightr said:

Slaav said:

superlightr said:

ohh yes - put my name down as well pls.


Does she have any other points on licence, would this push her into a ban?

Saaby, Want to join us for some balance and to at least give her a fair crack at avoiding a visit to Marble Arch?

but you don't know how I would cast my vote? All I can say is Speckled Jim. https://youtu.be/nPk43lZPkTI

True! And to answer the previous question, I am pretty sure that I heard she had a clean licence which makes it all even more bizarre!!

Would they (assuming she does ultimately get off) go after her for the S172 offence and slap her with 6 pts and a worthwhile fine?

[the tribester]

Slaav said:

superlightr said:

Slaav said:

superlightr said:

ohh yes - put my name down as well pls.


Does she have any other points on licence, would this push her into a ban?

Saaby, Want to join us for some balance and to at least give her a fair crack at avoiding a visit to Marble Arch?

but you don't know how I would cast my vote? All I can say is Speckled Jim. https://youtu.be/nPk43lZPkTI

True! And to answer the previous question, I am pretty sure that I heard she had a clean licence which makes it all even more bizarre!!

It will be clean if those Russians keep taking her points!

Would they (assuming she does ultimately get off) go after her for the S172 offence and slap her with 6 pts and a worthwhile fine?

Out of time now shirley

[discusdave]

any updates ?

[vxr8mate]

Retrial next year owing to the jury not being able to decide...I think.

[S11Steve]

vxr8mate said:

Retrial next year owing to the jury not being able to decide...I think.

Retrial started today in Court 9 - https://old-bailey.com/2018/12/10/whats-on-at-the-...

[ashleyman]

S11Steve said:

Retrial started today in Court 9 - https://old-bailey.com/2018/12/10/whats-on-at-the-...

Have you read whats on in the other courts?

Court 1 - Sexual Abuse (25 people)
Court 2 - Murder
Court 3 - Isis Sword Attack
Court 4 - Stabbing
Court 5 - Sexual Abuse (20 people)
Court 6 - Terrorism
Court 7 - Murder
Court 7 - Murder
Court 8 - Murder
Court 9 - Speeding & lying about it
Court 10 - Shaking a baby to death
Court 11 - Stabbing
Court 12 - Beating to death
Court 16 - Strangulation

1 of those is not like the others.

[S11Steve]

Security will be tight though!

[irocfan]

ashleyman said:

S11Steve said:

Retrial started today in Court 9 - https://old-bailey.com/2018/12/10/whats-on-at-the-...

Have you read whats on in the other courts?

Court 1 - Sexual Abuse (25 people)
Court 2 - Murder
Court 3 - Isis Sword Attack
Court 4 - Stabbing
Court 5 - Sexual Abuse (20 people)
Court 6 - Terrorism
Court 7 - Murder
Court 7 - Murder
Court 8 - Murder
Court 9 - Speeding & lying about it
Court 10 - Shaking a baby to death
Court 11 - Stabbing
Court 12 - Beating to death
Court 16 - Strangulation

1 of those is not like the others.

Indeed - and the dishonest cow could've avoided all that and pcoj by just taking the frickin' points

[essayer]

ashleyman said:

1 of those is not like the others.

Shows you just how seriously the legal system treats an elected Member of Parliament allegedly perverting the course of justice.

Given that they make the laws, MPs should be held to the highest standard.

[peterperkins]

ashleyman said:

Have you read whats on in the other courts?

Court 1 - Sexual Abuse (25 people)
Court 2 - Murder
Court 3 - Isis Sword Attack
Court 4 - Stabbing
Court 5 - Sexual Abuse (20 people)
Court 6 - Terrorism
Court 7 - Murder
Court 7 - Murder
Court 8 - Murder
Court 9 - Speeding & lying about it
Court 10 - Shaking a baby to death
Court 11 - Stabbing
Court 12 - Beating to death
Court 16 - Strangulation

1 of those is not like the others.

That's a depressing list that are likely to cost us a fortune over the next few years.. ..

[moanthebairns]

ashleyman said:

S11Steve said:

Retrial started today in Court 9 - https://old-bailey.com/2018/12/10/whats-on-at-the-...

Have you read whats on in the other courts?

Court 1 - Sexual Abuse (25 people)
Court 2 - Murder
Court 3 - Isis Sword Attack
Court 4 - Stabbing
Court 5 - Sexual Abuse (20 people)
Court 6 - Terrorism
Court 7 - Murder
Court 7 - Murder
Court 8 - Murder
Court 9 - Speeding & lying about it
Court 10 - Shaking a baby to death
Court 11 - Stabbing
Court 12 - Beating to death
Court 16 - Strangulation

1 of those is not like the others.

I can't see many rushing home in the festive mood after that wanting to watch Jingle All the Way tonight.

[hidetheelephants]

essayer said:

ashleyman said:

1 of those is not like the others.

Shows you just how seriously the legal system treats an elected Member of Parliament allegedly perverting the course of justice.

Given that they make the laws, MPs should be held to the highest standard.

PCOJ is as important as those; if people perceive they can appear in court and lie like cheap watches with impunity the edifice of justice falls to bits.

[superlightr]

hidetheelephants said:

PCOJ is as important as those; if people perceive they can appear in court and lie like cheap watches with impunity the edifice of justice falls to bits.

that's an amazing and strange use of words : lie - cheap watches - edifice - fall to bits!?!



cant possibly be unintentional combination - you have a secret mission that you hate Casio?

https://www.watchshop.com/mens-casio-edifice-chron...

Edited by superlightr on Tuesday 11th December 17:10

Edited by superlightr on Tuesday 11th December 17:10