Man buys speedboat “to pull women”......
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The spineless coward is now appealing the sentence that he is not even serving, because he is on the run. Unbelievable!
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-4535402...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-4535402...
"A web designer convicted of killing his date in a speedboat crash on the Thames has been granted leave to appeal his conviction – despite being on the run.
Jack Shepherd, 30, has been in hiding since he was found guilty of manslaughter by gross negligence after the death of 24-year-old Charlotte Brown."
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/fugitiv...
Jack Shepherd, 30, has been in hiding since he was found guilty of manslaughter by gross negligence after the death of 24-year-old Charlotte Brown."
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/fugitiv...
Meanwhile the tax payer is footing his legal bill.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6451561/S...
Almost £100k and counting.
It's right that defendants who can't afford their own legal team at a criminal trial get legal aid however legal aid whilst on the run? How can anyone justify that. Sticks two fingers up to the system and to the family of the deceased yet still wants to use the same system to his advantage when it suits him.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6451561/S...
Almost £100k and counting.
It's right that defendants who can't afford their own legal team at a criminal trial get legal aid however legal aid whilst on the run? How can anyone justify that. Sticks two fingers up to the system and to the family of the deceased yet still wants to use the same system to his advantage when it suits him.
Halb said:
THey need to get Dog, on that trail.
Dog bears an uncanny resemblance to the Cowardly Lion from Wizard of Oz. A faceful of pepper spray wouldn't be the worst thing to happen to this guy, not sure it's the best example to set allowing him to continue his defence while in hiding.Things will catch up with him eventually, he's no Edward Snowden so can't stay hidden or enjoy another country's hospitality forever. Even if he wins his appeal in this case, it won't magically make the fact that he skipped bail and skipped trial just go away now.
He'll be in hiding / in another country / working in the black economy for life, at some point when he's unable to visit his family or work a normal job or buy a house etc like normal people he'll be left asking himself if it was worth running and will probably conclude it wasn't.
He'll be in hiding / in another country / working in the black economy for life, at some point when he's unable to visit his family or work a normal job or buy a house etc like normal people he'll be left asking himself if it was worth running and will probably conclude it wasn't.
Gecko1978 said:
Do the police have no idea where he is? He must have family, or when he left the UK if he did there must be recrods of him leaving. Seems to me the police or justice system must not care that much or he would be found
It must be fairly easy to leave the UK, surely, given how easy it seems to be to get in?A trip on someone else's boat to France/Spain, or a disposable inflatable boat with a small outboard (which he could then sell to a migrant to make the return trip). Or as an undeclared, cash-paying passenger on a light aircraft (plenty take day-trips to France just for the flying hours). Stowing away in a car on a ferry across the channel. After all, most attention to smuggling on the channel crossing is directed toward smuggling people, illicit, or untaxed goods from Europe to the UK, not the other way around. It only seems to be commercial aeroplanes and the Eurostar that get the full 'boarding pass and passport' checks going out.
If he's receiving support from someone, then it'd be entirely possible to go under the radar by using only cash, and a PAYG phone supplied by whoever is "assisting an offender". There's only so long he'll be able to keep it up though. Either his supporter(s) will get fed up and hang him out to dry, or he'll get frustrated/bored with hiding and make a mistake. But the sad fact is that because he's not a deliberate murderer, he's just not "Bogey-Man" enough for ordinary people to be keeping a lookout for him really. If this was a "bodies in the basement" serial killer, then more police and public attention would have been concentrated on the case and I think he'd have been found and locked up pending his appeal by now.
yellowjack said:
Gecko1978 said:
Do the police have no idea where he is? He must have family, or when he left the UK if he did there must be recrods of him leaving. Seems to me the police or justice system must not care that much or he would be found
It must be fairly easy to leave the UK, surely, given how easy it seems to be to get in?A trip on someone else's boat to France/Spain, or a disposable inflatable boat with a small outboard (which he could then sell to a migrant to make the return trip). Or as an undeclared, cash-paying passenger on a light aircraft (plenty take day-trips to France just for the flying hours). Stowing away in a car on a ferry across the channel. After all, most attention to smuggling on the channel crossing is directed toward smuggling people, illicit, or untaxed goods from Europe to the UK, not the other way around. It only seems to be commercial aeroplanes and the Eurostar that get the full 'boarding pass and passport' checks going out.
If he's receiving support from someone, then it'd be entirely possible to go under the radar by using only cash, and a PAYG phone supplied by whoever is "assisting an offender". There's only so long he'll be able to keep it up though. Either his supporter(s) will get fed up and hang him out to dry, or he'll get frustrated/bored with hiding and make a mistake. But the sad fact is that because he's not a deliberate murderer, he's just not "Bogey-Man" enough for ordinary people to be keeping a lookout for him really. If this was a "bodies in the basement" serial killer, then more police and public attention would have been concentrated on the case and I think he'd have been found and locked up pending his appeal by now.
I women is dead and he did not account for it in court if he did nothing wrong then he should have been able to account for it but he care not for the women or her family only himself (maybe I ann many other would feel the same maybe not)
BlackLabel said:
Meanwhile the tax payer is footing his legal bill.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6451561/S...
Almost £100k and counting.
It's right that defendants who can't afford their own legal team at a criminal trial get legal aid however legal aid whilst on the run? How can anyone justify that. Sticks two fingers up to the system and to the family of the deceased yet still wants to use the same system to his advantage when it suits him.
Unsurprisingly, turns out the Daily Mail story doesn't have much of a connection to reality.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6451561/S...
Almost £100k and counting.
It's right that defendants who can't afford their own legal team at a criminal trial get legal aid however legal aid whilst on the run? How can anyone justify that. Sticks two fingers up to the system and to the family of the deceased yet still wants to use the same system to his advantage when it suits him.
These are the solicitors defending him - https://www.tuckerssolicitors.com/response-to-the-... .
They received £30k in legal aid, not nearly £100k and 95% of the work was done before he absconded. Including the grant of leave to appeal.
rscott said:
Unsurprisingly, turns out the Daily Mail story doesn't have much of a connection to reality.
These are the solicitors defending him - https://www.tuckerssolicitors.com/response-to-the-... .
They received £30k in legal aid, not nearly £100k and 95% of the work was done before he absconded. Including the grant of leave to appeal.
The two dont add up. These are the solicitors defending him - https://www.tuckerssolicitors.com/response-to-the-... .
They received £30k in legal aid, not nearly £100k and 95% of the work was done before he absconded. Including the grant of leave to appeal.
The solicitors claim they did not get 100k, but papers haven't actually said they did. Papers say a total for overall crown court costs so perhaps more than net fees for the brief? And then also a seperate barrister involved. Media claim they got figures from a freedom of information request, so imagine that was from the government legal aid and a total amount??
Papers said:
"A Freedom of Information request reveals he got £50,642 towards crown court solicitors’ fees, and £42,650 went to Stephen Vullo QC, who was in contact with Shepherd throughout the trial."
Tucker's is not even mentioned from what I can see. Is there another article also in the daily mail other than that one?
hyphen said:
rscott said:
Unsurprisingly, turns out the Daily Mail story doesn't have much of a connection to reality.
These are the solicitors defending him - https://www.tuckerssolicitors.com/response-to-the-... .
They received £30k in legal aid, not nearly £100k and 95% of the work was done before he absconded. Including the grant of leave to appeal.
The two dont add up. These are the solicitors defending him - https://www.tuckerssolicitors.com/response-to-the-... .
They received £30k in legal aid, not nearly £100k and 95% of the work was done before he absconded. Including the grant of leave to appeal.
The solicitors claim they did not get 100k, but papers haven't actually said they did. Papers say a total for overall crown court costs so perhaps more than net fees for the brief? And then also a seperate barrister involved. Media claim they got figures from a freedom of information request, so imagine that was from the government legal aid and a total amount??
Papers said:
"A Freedom of Information request reveals he got £50,642 towards crown court solicitors’ fees, and £42,650 went to Stephen Vullo QC, who was in contact with Shepherd throughout the trial."
Tucker's is not even mentioned from what I can see. Is there another article also in the daily mail other than that one?
JonChalk said:
beyond reasonable doubt.
that makes no sense, he could be arrested to identify who he is under a request, most countries have clear bilateral agreements, as well he has been convicted, so no doubt there.the met released this statement yesterday, 'The Metropolitan Police conceded they are not yet any closer to finding Shepherd despite an international manhunt.''
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