Man buys speedboat “to pull women”......
Discussion
Laurel Green said:
^^^Agree entirely, it's just not worth the risk.^^^
The bad news being; the judge allowed an appeal against Shepherd’s conviction for fleeing the country and committing a bail act offence, quashing an additional six month jail sentence.
The judge said a paperwork blunder, not seeking his extradition on that specific offence, meant he should not have been prosecuted and sentenced to extra time in prison.
He may not be out of that particular wood yet.The bad news being; the judge allowed an appeal against Shepherd’s conviction for fleeing the country and committing a bail act offence, quashing an additional six month jail sentence.
The judge said a paperwork blunder, not seeking his extradition on that specific offence, meant he should not have been prosecuted and sentenced to extra time in prison.
Grauniad said:
The court of appeal quashed his bail conviction and sentence on Thursday, but said he may face further proceedings in relation to his “egregious breach”.
Red Devil said:
He may not be out of that particular wood yet.
Thanks for that. Grauniad said:
The court of appeal quashed his bail conviction and sentence on Thursday, but said he may face further proceedings in relation to his “egregious breach”.
Let's hope the courts pursue it most vigorously.Fingers well and truely crossed.
jakesmith said:
JBM78 said:
yellowjack said:
I'm not with the court of public opinion on this one.
Yes, he was the boat's owner and "captain", and yes, he's a bit of a weaselly looking bloke. But he's been dragged through the court of public opinion and taken to pieces over his life choices, and they're not far off a lot of posters here, and on other online forums. Even the thread title is a bit of a dig at the bloke, as if it's the preserve of the sad loner to "buy a speedboat to pull women".
What difference is there really between "buying a speedboat to impress..." and "buying a nice 650S to impress and pull the laydeeez..." ???
He's been pulled apart for being on dating sites. Well so was his "victim". And she's not being taken to pieces for being so desperate for a shag that she'd put herself about online. If he'd died, and she'd been plucked alive and well from the Thames does anyone think she'd be getting criticised for making no effort to save him?
He's just done what thousands of people do on a typical Friday night in towns all over the country. Dressed himself up, equipped himself with an aspirational lifestyle accessory (the boat, in his case, but insert what you like here, an Evoque on PCP, a hired Lambo, etc) and gone all-out to impress his desired date by offering her something other potential suitors didn't have.
I'm not at all impressed by the bile that has been directed at him in the press. It's frankly ridiculous, and massively out of proportion with his "crime". He didn't set out to kill the poor girl. He was at as much risk as she was in the event of a capsize.
Where I'm not on his side is his absconding, though. He should have stood in the dock, and answered the charges. If he'd defended himself then he might have been found not guilty, or faced a less severe sentence. But what disturbs me most about the media coverage is the way they tear into him for his constant "smirking". In his defence, he's not trained in presenting a media image, and as far as I know he hasn't been coached by an image consultant or PR 'guru'. And given the way he's behaved, and can't accept responsibility for his actions, I think he may well have some form of mental ill health. So on the one hand those campaigning newspapers are all for better treatment for people with mental health issues, yet here they are shredding a guy who (and I speak as someone fighting mental ill-health myself) appears to be exhibiting behaviours and symptoms of a personality disorder of some kind.
The whole thing stinks, IMHO. Take the Daily Mail for one. They want Jack Shepherd hung, drawn, and quartered over this accidental death, but Alexander Blackman ought to have his sentence quashed and be free, despite a video existing that shows him firing a fatal shot into another human being. It smacks of hypocrisy, and wanting to have your cake and eat it.
It's also surprising that PHers, who have a reputation for "enjoying a hoon" now and then, should be queuing up to figuratively kick Jack Shepherd in the nuts when his prosecution and sentence could set a precedent for the prosecution of anyone keeping a nice toy in the garage/marina and using it for the purposes of "showing off" or "pulling". The Jack Shepherd case ought to serve as a warning to those supercar owners who indulge in "spirited driving" on public roads going to and from car meets for the sole benefit of Youtube onanists. Because if this case stands, then you lot could easily be the next ones on the end of a rude awakening at the hands of a jury. If you claim that this bloke belongs in prison for 6 years, be careful what you wish for...
I agree 100 % with all of this, great postYes, he was the boat's owner and "captain", and yes, he's a bit of a weaselly looking bloke. But he's been dragged through the court of public opinion and taken to pieces over his life choices, and they're not far off a lot of posters here, and on other online forums. Even the thread title is a bit of a dig at the bloke, as if it's the preserve of the sad loner to "buy a speedboat to pull women".
What difference is there really between "buying a speedboat to impress..." and "buying a nice 650S to impress and pull the laydeeez..." ???
He's been pulled apart for being on dating sites. Well so was his "victim". And she's not being taken to pieces for being so desperate for a shag that she'd put herself about online. If he'd died, and she'd been plucked alive and well from the Thames does anyone think she'd be getting criticised for making no effort to save him?
He's just done what thousands of people do on a typical Friday night in towns all over the country. Dressed himself up, equipped himself with an aspirational lifestyle accessory (the boat, in his case, but insert what you like here, an Evoque on PCP, a hired Lambo, etc) and gone all-out to impress his desired date by offering her something other potential suitors didn't have.
I'm not at all impressed by the bile that has been directed at him in the press. It's frankly ridiculous, and massively out of proportion with his "crime". He didn't set out to kill the poor girl. He was at as much risk as she was in the event of a capsize.
Where I'm not on his side is his absconding, though. He should have stood in the dock, and answered the charges. If he'd defended himself then he might have been found not guilty, or faced a less severe sentence. But what disturbs me most about the media coverage is the way they tear into him for his constant "smirking". In his defence, he's not trained in presenting a media image, and as far as I know he hasn't been coached by an image consultant or PR 'guru'. And given the way he's behaved, and can't accept responsibility for his actions, I think he may well have some form of mental ill health. So on the one hand those campaigning newspapers are all for better treatment for people with mental health issues, yet here they are shredding a guy who (and I speak as someone fighting mental ill-health myself) appears to be exhibiting behaviours and symptoms of a personality disorder of some kind.
The whole thing stinks, IMHO. Take the Daily Mail for one. They want Jack Shepherd hung, drawn, and quartered over this accidental death, but Alexander Blackman ought to have his sentence quashed and be free, despite a video existing that shows him firing a fatal shot into another human being. It smacks of hypocrisy, and wanting to have your cake and eat it.
It's also surprising that PHers, who have a reputation for "enjoying a hoon" now and then, should be queuing up to figuratively kick Jack Shepherd in the nuts when his prosecution and sentence could set a precedent for the prosecution of anyone keeping a nice toy in the garage/marina and using it for the purposes of "showing off" or "pulling". The Jack Shepherd case ought to serve as a warning to those supercar owners who indulge in "spirited driving" on public roads going to and from car meets for the sole benefit of Youtube onanists. Because if this case stands, then you lot could easily be the next ones on the end of a rude awakening at the hands of a jury. If you claim that this bloke belongs in prison for 6 years, be careful what you wish for...
I suppose him bottling a barman who happened to be a former servicemen trying to get over PTSD after fighting for his country, could have happened to anyone too?
Europa1 said:
Thesprucegoose said:
civil
What would they be claiming for?https://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/11/us/jury-decides...
Despite being found innocent of murder the civil case against OJ awarded the family $25m.
A little bit more if interested -
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/question-c...
Laurel Green said:
...The bad news being; the judge allowed an appeal against Shepherd’s conviction for fleeing the country and committing a bail act offence, quashing an additional six month jail sentence.
The judge said a paperwork blunder, not seeking his extradition on that specific offence, meant he should not have been prosecuted and sentenced to extra time in prison.
That isn't a "bad thing" though. That is not a judgement on the case, but on the following of proper legal procedures along the way to court. And if the police and the judiciary don't follow the rules, then appeals should be won.The judge said a paperwork blunder, not seeking his extradition on that specific offence, meant he should not have been prosecuted and sentenced to extra time in prison.
After all, it would be totally hypocritical for some wealthy toss-pot to go a-skipping and a-jumping out of court shouting "Woo-Hoo!" at the top of their lungs having had a speeding/careless/dangerous driving charge dismissed on a spurious legal technicality, and for the usual suspects on PH to come out in hero-worshipping sympathy for them "because sticking to 'The Man', dude - well played", while almost simultaneously posting on this thread that Shepherd deserves to have his head served on a plate instead of "getting off on a technicality". You can't dice the law up a different way based on what flavour the culprit is, as it is meant to be applied equally to all, without fear or favour. Or at least, that's the theory...
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