How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 4)
Discussion
loafer123 said:
The Dangerous Elk said:
loafer123 said:
fido said:
Looking forwards to their next article .. 'Things To Do in Venuzuela when you have one million percent inflation'!
"You won't believe number 7!"
fido said:
I would say that's realistic. When a country is left with a 289billion (interest-free .. or they won't pay it) Euro loan, 25% reduction in GDP and 20%+ unemployment - and the BBC can still make it into good news. Looking forwards to their next article .. 'Things To Do in Venuzuela when you have one million percent inflation'!
Eat zoo animals apparently. Someone’s barbecued one of their Tapirs.I saw a few minutes of BBC breakfast this morning, a programme that always oversimplifies things, I don’t think they were heralding a new age of prosperity for Greece and their article online highlights adequately that they’re not out of trouble yet. Their debt to GDP ratio is staggering!
In fairness to the Beeb I think they were just saying that Greece can now borrow again on the open market and that is a positive step for them, that they simplified the issue and sounded really happy about it was a function of dumbing down to suit their audience and their annoying chirpy presenters.
powerstroke said:
Remainers yes you !!! why not just wait until the next GE, once you get a LD government it will all be fine cushty, gravy and lots of lovely EU largess ... all the people want to overturn Brexit right ??? so its a sure thing !!!all hail Cable ......
This is the bit I don't get, all the talk of peoples vote and 2nd referendum when the most likely and best chance for remainers of overturning it would be to get behind the so called centrist party that is the lib dems who are openly saying they want to put a stop to the whole thing. There seems a reasonably high probability of GE sooner rather than later and if prior to that they sacked off Cable and put someone in with even a bit of charisma and a clue they might stand a (small) chance.
In that unlikely event I may actually be concerned about Brexit being overturned, but this is always assuming as the media would love us to believe, there are now so many people out there who have changed their mind and want it revoked...
Edited by Rocket. on Monday 20th August 16:03
djc206 said:
ImonsterXI said:
He still watches In the Night Garden at 5?! I'm sorry you have a disabled Grandson and wish him the best life possible 
Back on topic, it seems quite clear from the "f
k you" "nah fk you" "nah fk you" ad infinitum from the politicians down to us poor schmucks on a car forum that the matter has moved beyond Brexit to a matter of ego; both sides are now terrified that they will be on the the "losing" side at the end of all this which has hobbled all meaningful debate or action.
The next few months are going to be very interesting.
There’s really no need for that. I suggest you edit that first bit out of your post.Back on topic, it seems quite clear from the "f
k you" "nah fk you" "nah fk you" ad infinitum from the politicians down to us poor schmucks on a car forum that the matter has moved beyond Brexit to a matter of ego; both sides are now terrified that they will be on the the "losing" side at the end of all this which has hobbled all meaningful debate or action.The next few months are going to be very interesting.
t imonsterx, goes skiing, apparently. I have interrupted his thread and just mentioned that I hope he breaks both of his legs and arms whilst on his skiing holiday. Being nasty and vindictive is oh so easy from the comfort of an ipad! Correct me if I'm wrong, but once Article 50 was/is triggered, it's irreversible, i.e., we are brexiting whether we like it or not, deal or no deal?
In which case, what planet are these "people's vote" twits on? It's not as if they're going to vote "yes" to any deal, (and in any case what would be the earthly point of them doing that when their vote carries no mandate), so they apparently want the opportunity to veto any deal which may be made, which results in, er, a no-deal exit (because there sure as hell won't be time to go back and start again, not now).
So what does Mr Superdry hope to achieve with his magnanimous donation, apart from a bit of publicity which he doesn't really need now that he no longer runs a clothes shop anyway?
In which case, what planet are these "people's vote" twits on? It's not as if they're going to vote "yes" to any deal, (and in any case what would be the earthly point of them doing that when their vote carries no mandate), so they apparently want the opportunity to veto any deal which may be made, which results in, er, a no-deal exit (because there sure as hell won't be time to go back and start again, not now).
So what does Mr Superdry hope to achieve with his magnanimous donation, apart from a bit of publicity which he doesn't really need now that he no longer runs a clothes shop anyway?
djc206 said:
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I saw a few minutes of BBC breakfast this morning, a programme that always oversimplifies things, I don’t think they were heralding a new age of prosperity for Greece and their article online highlights adequately that they’re not out of trouble yet. Their debt to GDP ratio is staggering!
In fairness to the Beeb I think they were just saying that Greece can now borrow again on the open market and that is a positive step for them, that they simplified the issue and sounded really happy about it was a function of dumbing down to suit their audience and their annoying chirpy presenters.
It's the headlines that I think are a little..."optimistic":I saw a few minutes of BBC breakfast this morning, a programme that always oversimplifies things, I don’t think they were heralding a new age of prosperity for Greece and their article online highlights adequately that they’re not out of trouble yet. Their debt to GDP ratio is staggering!
In fairness to the Beeb I think they were just saying that Greece can now borrow again on the open market and that is a positive step for them, that they simplified the issue and sounded really happy about it was a function of dumbing down to suit their audience and their annoying chirpy presenters.
BBC said:
Greece emerges from eurozone bailout programme
The economy is still 25% smaller than eight years ago and nearly 1 in 5 are unemployed...
What they actually mean, I think, is that Greece has now had the last bail out loan it's going to get (at least until it needs another) and that it must now borrow at market rates, whilst still being deeply in the sThe economy is still 25% smaller than eight years ago and nearly 1 in 5 are unemployed...
t.I think most people will read that headline (and little else) and think that Greece are now OK, hasn't the situation been wonderfully handled as the last we heard is that they were going to fail etc.
Still, onwards and upwards. Is there a book running on whether Greece will get to 2060 without needing more? And perhaps what the headlines will then read??
The Dangerous Elk said:
MX5 , MX5.01, MX5.02 MX-A-nOther , just let me check if I may, which accounts are you going to be using today ?
hmmm https://itnproductions.com/news/video-peoples-vote...CAPP0 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but once Article 50 was/is triggered, it's irreversible, i.e., we are brexiting whether we like it or not, deal or no deal?
In which case, what planet are these "people's vote" twits on? It's not as if they're going to vote "yes" to any deal, (and in any case what would be the earthly point of them doing that when their vote carries no mandate), so they apparently want the opportunity to veto any deal which may be made, which results in, er, a no-deal exit (because there sure as hell won't be time to go back and start again, not now).
So what does Mr Superdry hope to achieve with his magnanimous donation, apart from a bit of publicity which he doesn't really need now that he no longer runs a clothes shop anyway?
Some people think we can unilaterally rescind our resignation.In which case, what planet are these "people's vote" twits on? It's not as if they're going to vote "yes" to any deal, (and in any case what would be the earthly point of them doing that when their vote carries no mandate), so they apparently want the opportunity to veto any deal which may be made, which results in, er, a no-deal exit (because there sure as hell won't be time to go back and start again, not now).
So what does Mr Superdry hope to achieve with his magnanimous donation, apart from a bit of publicity which he doesn't really need now that he no longer runs a clothes shop anyway?
I see Corbyn has thrown his hat into the remain ring, finally showing what a self serving hypocrite he actually is - risky strategy IMO
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/jeremy-corbyn-says-a...
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/jeremy-corbyn-says-a...
sidicks said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Some people think we can unilaterally rescind our resignation.
Some people think the EU would need to approve / agree.djc206 said:
sidicks said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Some people think we can unilaterally rescind our resignation.
Some people think the EU would need to approve / agree.It would be chaos to the point that it would be self-defeating.
sidicks said:
Helicopter123 said:
More grim news coming out of the financial services sector.
Standard Chartered this time.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45238457
Very worrying.
Is this another ocassion where you provide a link on a subject you don’t understand, without reading the article?Standard Chartered this time.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45238457
Very worrying.
Article said:
Europe and Americas boss Tracy Clarke says the relatively small size of the bank in the EU market means it would not "be moving hundreds of people".
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