Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 3)
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Another week another Labour anti-semtism story
They have had to suspend their west midlands regional coordinator after the Sunday Times provided evidence of past activity on social media. Which included the claim "all wars in the world" are due to Jewish people and posts referring to "holocaust propaganda"
They have had to suspend their west midlands regional coordinator after the Sunday Times provided evidence of past activity on social media. Which included the claim "all wars in the world" are due to Jewish people and posts referring to "holocaust propaganda"
The Dangerous Elk said:
Why would you not expect a WTF comment from Mac Donnell ?, every utterance from him is a jaw dropper.
Corbyn drops a few too.In 2013, Jeremy Corbyn said: "We salute Chavez and the people of Venezuela for turning the clock of history full circle... I look forward to the development of Venezuela, the efficiency of Venezuela, in providing good services and decency for all the people of that country."
Interesting piece by Nick Cohen.....
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec...
Why are Labour’s leaders so quiet on Europe? Maybe it’s the lure of disaster
“One explained that, whatever other qualities Corbyn possesses, he is not overburdened by the weight of his intellect. The brains behind the operation are John McDonnell, Milne and Murray. And “they absolutely believe that if Brexit brings chaos the voters will turn to the radical left”. To put it in Marxist language, a crisis in capitalism will allow the left intelligentsia to lead the proletariat to victory.”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec...
Why are Labour’s leaders so quiet on Europe? Maybe it’s the lure of disaster
“One explained that, whatever other qualities Corbyn possesses, he is not overburdened by the weight of his intellect. The brains behind the operation are John McDonnell, Milne and Murray. And “they absolutely believe that if Brexit brings chaos the voters will turn to the radical left”. To put it in Marxist language, a crisis in capitalism will allow the left intelligentsia to lead the proletariat to victory.”
Was just about to post that.
I thought this bit was interesting.
Lenin established the doctrine of revolutionary defeatism during the First World War. He had no time for “banal” socialists who were campaigning for peace. The true communist welcomed war and yearned for the defeat of his country. For a defeat, in Lenin’s case of Russia by Germany, would incite “hatred of one’s own government and one’s own bourgeoisie” and bring the revolution closer
I thought this bit was interesting.
Lenin established the doctrine of revolutionary defeatism during the First World War. He had no time for “banal” socialists who were campaigning for peace. The true communist welcomed war and yearned for the defeat of his country. For a defeat, in Lenin’s case of Russia by Germany, would incite “hatred of one’s own government and one’s own bourgeoisie” and bring the revolution closer
It's fairly obvious that their strongest campaigning position is from being the people to fix a problem rather than in trying to convince people to avoid it. As a strategy gaining power after some sort of chaos or disaster has worked a few times through history to let nutters get in.
Though this does assume there will actually be chaos of some sort. And it also assumes that Marxist intelligentsia with such a narrow and distorted view of the world will actually be smart and capable enough to take advantage. So far its all been student politics level stuff while proper elections take a little more.
Though this does assume there will actually be chaos of some sort. And it also assumes that Marxist intelligentsia with such a narrow and distorted view of the world will actually be smart and capable enough to take advantage. So far its all been student politics level stuff while proper elections take a little more.
Somewhat farcical vote of no confidence for just the PM.
Surely this achieves little to nothing in practice, keeps some of his supporters abated for a while perhaps.
Fit's the general template of the man's character if you ask me, lip service and posturing without any constructive ideas or actions.
Surely this achieves little to nothing in practice, keeps some of his supporters abated for a while perhaps.
Fit's the general template of the man's character if you ask me, lip service and posturing without any constructive ideas or actions.
urquattroGus said:
Somewhat farcical vote of no confidence for just the PM.
Surely this achieves little to nothing in practice, keeps some of his supporters abated for a while perhaps.
Fit's the general template of the man's character if you ask me, lip service and posturing without any constructive ideas or actions.
Does this mean he has confidence in another Tory being PM then? I thought a vote of no confidence was aimed at the current government not on its head or has Jezza hit on a new way of showing he means business knowing full well he'll never be held to account?Surely this achieves little to nothing in practice, keeps some of his supporters abated for a while perhaps.
Fit's the general template of the man's character if you ask me, lip service and posturing without any constructive ideas or actions.
Smollet said:
urquattroGus said:
Somewhat farcical vote of no confidence for just the PM.
Surely this achieves little to nothing in practice, keeps some of his supporters abated for a while perhaps.
Fit's the general template of the man's character if you ask me, lip service and posturing without any constructive ideas or actions.
Does this mean he has confidence in another Tory being PM then? I thought a vote of no confidence was aimed at the current government not on its head or has Jezza hit on a new way of showing he means business knowing full well he'll never be held to account?Surely this achieves little to nothing in practice, keeps some of his supporters abated for a while perhaps.
Fit's the general template of the man's character if you ask me, lip service and posturing without any constructive ideas or actions.
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