Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 3)
Discussion
Mothersruin said:
Anyone guessing how much Sterling will tank, inflation will grow & house prices will crash should McDonnell get the keys to No11?
5%, 8% & 10%
The Sterling has already done all the tanking it needs under the current shower of sh!t in charge. Everything was already priced in the market. Remember it's not Labour who put us in the current mess we're in. It was CMD and his ilk.5%, 8% & 10%
allnighter said:
Mothersruin said:
Anyone guessing how much Sterling will tank, inflation will grow & house prices will crash should McDonnell get the keys to No11?
5%, 8% & 10%
The Sterling has already done all the tanking it needs under the current shower of sh!t in charge. Everything was already priced in the market. Remember it's not Labour who put us in the current mess we're in. It was CMD and his ilk.5%, 8% & 10%
Mothersruin said:
allnighter said:
Mothersruin said:
Anyone guessing how much Sterling will tank, inflation will grow & house prices will crash should McDonnell get the keys to No11?
5%, 8% & 10%
The Sterling has already done all the tanking it needs under the current shower of sh!t in charge. Everything was already priced in the market. Remember it's not Labour who put us in the current mess we're in. It was CMD and his ilk.5%, 8% & 10%
amgmcqueen said:
Nope I just can’t see it. As I say above DUP don’t want the Irish Republicans’ best mate, Corbyn in power under circumstances and whilst they will vote against the deal it’s virtually certain they’d back the government in a confidence vote to prevent this (there’s the obvious political reasons but remember also Arlene Foster’s father was shot by the IRA, for her this is personal as well).Even if the unlikely happened and the government did lose a confidence vote Corbyn would need to be able to pull together a credible coalition to form a government without an election and the current parliamentary arithmetic makes this look pretty much impossible.
There’s also the point that Corbyn’s heart isn’t really in taking power right now. He knows very well if he does take power in the short term he has all the same issues that May has now to deal with and he’ll end up looking as bad as May does now (and given he’s a bit thick and thus likely to make even more of a mess probably he’ll look worse). The backstop issue doesn’t disappear just because the government changes and Labour are just as divided as the Tories, it’s just that divisions are less obvious when you’re in opposition. He knows his preferable strategy is to let the Tories finish Brexit so that all the resultant problems are clearly a Tory issue which will propel him to victory at the next general election giving him a majority rather than an unworkable coalition.
A Corbyn government would be a disaster. It’s not happening this week in my view or even soon. However next general election and he might have a chance, I pray not though.
allnighter said:
Mothersruin said:
allnighter said:
Mothersruin said:
Anyone guessing how much Sterling will tank, inflation will grow & house prices will crash should McDonnell get the keys to No11?
5%, 8% & 10%
The Sterling has already done all the tanking it needs under the current shower of sh!t in charge. Everything was already priced in the market. Remember it's not Labour who put us in the current mess we're in. It was CMD and his ilk.5%, 8% & 10%
The biggest risk facing everyone in the UK isn’t Brexit, it’s the current Labour front bench getting into power. I sincerely hope they never do.
NoddyonNitrous said:
How does the sum of a Labour / SNP coalition add up?
Perish the thought - SNP can't run Scotland effectively, let alone UK! But if Corbyn promises to allow an Independence Referendum as a reward.....
And Scotland once again votes No, which should bring the SNP crashing down for a very long time. Might be a plan.Perish the thought - SNP can't run Scotland effectively, let alone UK! But if Corbyn promises to allow an Independence Referendum as a reward.....
djohnson said:
Tory’s are a disaster zone I agree. However if you look at what Labour gave said they will do the economic damage would be way worse than Brexit and whilst I think the loss of Tuesday’s vote on the deal is priced in, no way is the impact of Corbyn’s stated policies priced in. It gets worse when you start looking at the long held beliefs if the Labour front bench and speculating that they’re currently pretending to be more moderate than actually they are and what their real agenda might be.....
The biggest risk facing everyone in the UK isn’t Brexit, it’s the current Labour front bench getting into power. I sincerely hope they never do.
I share your views exactly. Despite the probability that a second referendum would reverse the result and remove the impasse, I would prefer to move forward in whatever way avoids a labour government. The biggest risk facing everyone in the UK isn’t Brexit, it’s the current Labour front bench getting into power. I sincerely hope they never do.
For those who will no doubt challenge my statement about the result of a second referendum, yes I realise it depends on the question, but if it was a simple leave/remain question then the latest polls suggest remain is ahead. The telling statement in the link below is that leave only returned 40% whereas remain returned 52% and the rest were undecided or not willing to say.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bre...
GT119 said:
djohnson said:
Tory’s are a disaster zone I agree. However if you look at what Labour gave said they will do the economic damage would be way worse than Brexit and whilst I think the loss of Tuesday’s vote on the deal is priced in, no way is the impact of Corbyn’s stated policies priced in. It gets worse when you start looking at the long held beliefs if the Labour front bench and speculating that they’re currently pretending to be more moderate than actually they are and what their real agenda might be.....
The biggest risk facing everyone in the UK isn’t Brexit, it’s the current Labour front bench getting into power. I sincerely hope they never do.
I share your views exactly. Despite the probability that a second referendum would reverse the result and remove the impasse, I would prefer to move forward in whatever way avoids a labour government. The biggest risk facing everyone in the UK isn’t Brexit, it’s the current Labour front bench getting into power. I sincerely hope they never do.
For those who will no doubt challenge my statement about the result of a second referendum, yes I realise it depends on the question, but if it was a simple leave/remain question then the latest polls suggest remain is ahead. The telling statement in the link below is that leave only returned 40% whereas remain returned 52% and the rest were undecided or not willing to say.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bre...
I agree that a second referendum would likely get us through the current issues and resultant risk of a Labour government getting sprung into power due to a crisis. The longer term challenge might that a second referendum, called by the Tory’s, which results in remain will damage Tory support in the Northern ‘leave’ regions which is exactly where Corbyn needs to get more votes to win. That said a week is a long time in politics and if we hang on until 2022 a lot could have changed and I do think that absent a crisis election, in a normal well run election campaign with a better leader than May then the current Labour front bench won’t get elected (especially if the rightful boundary changes are through first). However the Marxist nutters have clearly got a grasp on Labour that isn’t going to get broken easily and hence I do think that the only way we’ll truly be rid of them at the forefront of Uk politics now is if they lose another election and hence it will have to be squeaky bum time at some point.
k up.Russian Troll Bot said:
As another bonus, they'll sort out our obesity crisis pretty quickly
Bummer I have just lost 15kg wish I had hung on to it now.Corbyn is a problem but I really worry about what McDonnel has got in store for anyone who has anything resembling a comfortable living
allnighter said:
Mothersruin said:
allnighter said:
Mothersruin said:
Anyone guessing how much Sterling will tank, inflation will grow & house prices will crash should McDonnell get the keys to No11?
5%, 8% & 10%
The Sterling has already done all the tanking it needs under the current shower of sh!t in charge. Everything was already priced in the market. Remember it's not Labour who put us in the current mess we're in. It was CMD and his ilk.5%, 8% & 10%
How about a run on the banks, and capital flight? Again something Labour are expecting to happen if they get into power.
TheGuardian said:
The Foreign Office minister, Alan Duncan, has ordered an investigation into reports the government provided funding to a Scottish-based company meant to counter online Russian propaganda, which also spread unfavourable views about Jeremy Corbyn.
The Institute for Statecraft, based in Fife, received hundreds of thousands of pounds in Foreign Office money.
According to the Sunday Mail, leaked documents show it tried to promote tweets calling the Labour leader a “useful idiot” who helped the Kremlin cause, and attacked members of his staff
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/10/f...The Institute for Statecraft, based in Fife, received hundreds of thousands of pounds in Foreign Office money.
According to the Sunday Mail, leaked documents show it tried to promote tweets calling the Labour leader a “useful idiot” who helped the Kremlin cause, and attacked members of his staff
And you gullible fools have lapped it all up. Dear oh dear.
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