Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 3)

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NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Friday 22nd February 2019
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johnxjsc1985 said:
Condi said:
Can anyone tell me why Corbyn has run to Brussels twice to discuss Brexit with the EU?

He's not negotiating on behalf of the UK, has no hope of becoming PM before Brexit date, and surely is wasting the EU's time and his own? What he's proposing would be unacceptable to most of those who voted Brexit anyway - a permanent customs union simply ties us into the EU rules until whatever time they want to let us out.

Tres confused.
Don't be confused you have to remember he sees himself as the saviour of the West.
They want an EU army, he is just sorting the price to sell them ours when he gets in office

RichB

51,597 posts

285 months

Friday 22nd February 2019
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NoNeed said:
They want an EU army, he is just sorting the price to sell them ours when he gets in office
Which he won't.

irocfan

40,538 posts

191 months

Friday 22nd February 2019
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Condi said:
Can anyone tell me why Corbyn has run to Brussels twice to discuss Brexit with the EU?

He's not negotiating on behalf of the UK, has no hope of becoming PM before Brexit date, and surely is wasting the EU's time and his own? What he's proposing would be unacceptable to most of those who voted Brexit anyway - a permanent customs union simply ties us into the EU rules until whatever time they want to let us out.

Tres confused.
actually he couldn't enact half of his plans if we were still part of the EU. Makes you think....

TheDonald

15,137 posts

201 months

Friday 22nd February 2019
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RichB said:
NoNeed said:
They want an EU army, he is just sorting the price to sell them ours when he gets in office
Which he won't.
oh yes he will


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/heres-what-j...


there are plenty of examples of his intentions

RichB

51,597 posts

285 months

Friday 22nd February 2019
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TheDonald said:
oh yes he will https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/heres-what-j... there are plenty of examples of his intentions
Not disputing his intentions. He will never get in office.

TheDonald

15,137 posts

201 months

Friday 22nd February 2019
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RichB said:
TheDonald said:
oh yes he will https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/heres-what-j... there are plenty of examples of his intentions
Not disputing his intentions. He will never get in office.
Lets hope you are right

motco

15,965 posts

247 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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TheDonald said:
RichB said:
TheDonald said:
oh yes he will https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/heres-what-j... there are plenty of examples of his intentions
Not disputing his intentions. He will never get in office.
Lets hope you are right


powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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RichB said:
ot disputing his intentions. He will never get in office.
Never say never!! lets hope joe still thinks the tories are the least worst option and get out and put the cross in the right box!!
there are plenty of other people stupid enough to vote Labour ...

Cobnapint

8,633 posts

152 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Condi said:
Can anyone tell me why Corbyn has run to Brussels twice to discuss Brexit with the EU?

He's not negotiating on behalf of the UK, has no hope of becoming PM before Brexit date, and surely is wasting the EU's time and his own? What he's proposing would be unacceptable to most of those who voted Brexit anyway - a permanent customs union simply ties us into the EU rules until whatever time they want to let us out.

Tres confused.
The first thing that came into my head when I saw him sat down with the EU and his remain 'Brexit' secretary next to him was what the fk is HE doing there? He's not in power, he has no right to be circumventing the negotiating stance of our elected government and anything he said to the EU would have probably damaged further our negotiating position (as if it wasn't bad enough already).

John145

2,449 posts

157 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Cobnapint said:
The first thing that came into my head when I saw him sat down with the EU and his remain 'Brexit' secretary next to him was what the fk is HE doing there? He's not in power, he has no right to be circumventing the negotiating stance of our elected government and anything he said to the EU would have probably damaged further our negotiating position (as if it wasn't bad enough already).
EU dirty tactics.

Piha

7,150 posts

93 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Cobnapint said:
The first thing that came into my head when I saw him sat down with the EU and his remain 'Brexit' secretary next to him was what the fk is HE doing there? He's not in power, he has no right to be circumventing the negotiating stance of our elected government and anything he said to the EU would have probably damaged further our negotiating position (as if it wasn't bad enough already).
A bit like the right wing ERG then.

Cobnapint

8,633 posts

152 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Piha said:
Cobnapint said:
The first thing that came into my head when I saw him sat down with the EU and his remain 'Brexit' secretary next to him was what the fk is HE doing there? He's not in power, he has no right to be circumventing the negotiating stance of our elected government and anything he said to the EU would have probably damaged further our negotiating position (as if it wasn't bad enough already).
A bit like the right wing ERG then.
Couple of things - the ERG aren't 'right wing' as you and many others like to call them, they just want the result of the ref carrying out without any deviation. And the ERG is made up of members of HM elected government that are legitimately involved in the negotiations.

djohnson

3,435 posts

224 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Piha said:
A bit like the right wing ERG then.
? The ERG are part of the elected government.

Henners

12,230 posts

195 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Cobnapint said:
The first thing that came into my head when I saw him sat down with the EU and his remain 'Brexit' secretary next to him was what the fk is HE doing there? He's not in power, he has no right to be circumventing the negotiating stance of our elected government and anything he said to the EU would have probably damaged further our negotiating position (as if it wasn't bad enough already).
I wonder if he’s told the EU what his plan is, maybe they could tell us.


Sway

26,310 posts

195 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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djohnson said:
Piha said:
A bit like the right wing ERG then.
? The ERG are part of the elected government.
They're also not going to Brussels for talks.

biggbn

23,429 posts

221 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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I will be 'stupid'enough to vote labour. I'm sure all of you who were 'bright' enough to vote for the current lot are turning cartwheels at their ability to run the country...

To be fair, Brexit was always going to be a career defining chalice of nettles and poison for whomever grasped it, to mix my metaphors, there is no 'how to enact brexit for dummies' handbook and a virtual 50/50 vote amongst those who could be arsed to vote was always going to make it hugely divisive. I can't help but feel that as much as i detest their politics, Farage or even Rees Mogg would have made a far better fist of negotiating, from a transpatently dynamic viewpoint, than this lot of timerous liars who inhabit a shady world balanced between maintaining one hand on the tiller and appeasing all with constant honeyed half truths

768

13,704 posts

97 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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They'd have said no deal nearly 2 years ago, if you can call that negotiating then fair enough.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Is it just me or does Corbyn have a thing for hugging and kissing women at every opportunity.

biggbn

23,429 posts

221 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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768 said:
They'd have said no deal nearly 2 years ago, if you can call that negotiating then fair enough.
I have no dog in the Brexit fight but May and co have presented Britain.Inc as weak, wavering and vulnerable at almost every opportunity. Had Europe known they were dealing with the real possibility of no deal from day one things may have unfolded differently?

Earthdweller

13,591 posts

127 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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biggbn said:
768 said:
They'd have said no deal nearly 2 years ago, if you can call that negotiating then fair enough.
I have no dog in the Brexit fight but May and co have presented Britain.Inc as weak, wavering and vulnerable at almost every opportunity. Had Europe known they were dealing with the real possibility of no deal from day one things may have unfolded differently?
I can’t help feeling you are right

If in 2016 the U.K. had said “ right lads we’re off it’s been a blast “

I’d imagine we’d have a deal by now on much more favourable terms
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