Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 3)

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768

13,705 posts

97 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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ORD said:
Anti-Blair hysteria partly explains why we no longer have a credible opposition. It’s that kind of unthinking bandwagon stuff that caused Labour to elect a dangerous moron.
As opposed to voting Labour regardless, because that wouldn't be unthinking bandwagon stuff.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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if Mr Blair hadn't gone along with Mr Bush and kept his distance whilst expressing sympathy perhaps things might be quite different.

Vaud

50,597 posts

156 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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techiedave said:
if Mr Blair hadn't gone along with Mr Bush and kept his distance whilst expressing sympathy perhaps things might be quite different.
Arguably he could have been supportive without doing what he did... allow use of UK bases in UK/Cyprus. Provide intelligence, etc... every thing short of boots on the ground. The outcome would have been the same, we would still have a "special relationship" and the British public would probably have accepted it more comfortably?

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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techiedave said:
if Mr Blair hadn't gone along with Mr Bush and kept his distance whilst expressing sympathy perhaps things might be quite different.
I’m not saying this is your point but it is often said that we painted a target on our backs to the Islamic terrorists by joining Dubyah in his money making scheme to invade Iraq. However the French have I believe suffered more attacks and more deaths through terrorism in the subsequent years to that foray, and they were dubbed the ‘cheese eating surrender monkeys’ at the time on account of their non-participation.

bitchstewie

51,371 posts

211 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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This is what it's come to, in The Guardian of all the papers.


ORD

18,120 posts

128 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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He’ll still get 30% or more in the next General Election, assuming he survives until then.

We still seem to have ignored all the evidence that a substantial minority of the public is utterly immune to facts.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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ORD said:
He’ll still get 30% or more in the next General Election, assuming he survives until then.

We still seem to have ignored all the evidence that a substantial minority of the public is utterly immune to facts.
He supposedly avoided Glastonbury this year due to falling support amongst the young, so who knows!

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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ORD said:
He’ll still get 30% or more in the next General Election, assuming he survives until then.

We still seem to have ignored all the evidence that a substantial minority of the public is utterly immune to facts.
My bet is he's gone by Xmas. I think 30% is very optimistic and there isn't a party who would work with them. Labour are screwed with him at the helm.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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Wonder if that bint that did the sham report will have her peerage stripped.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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Mothersruin said:
Wonder if that bint that did the sham report will have her peerage stripped.
She has gone awfully quiet hasn't she ?
Used to be a very vocal media fest politician. Very seldom heard now.

hidetheelephants

24,462 posts

194 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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jakesmith said:
techiedave said:
if Mr Blair hadn't gone along with Mr Bush and kept his distance whilst expressing sympathy perhaps things might be quite different.
I’m not saying this is your point but it is often said that we painted a target on our backs to the Islamic terrorists by joining Dubyah in his money making scheme to invade Iraq. However the French have I believe suffered more attacks and more deaths through terrorism in the subsequent years to that foray, and they were dubbed the ‘cheese eating surrender monkeys’ at the time on account of their non-participation.
The frenchies have spent the last decade or so fighting a series of ghastly bush wars in north africa against Boko Haram and like-minded travellers, they were balls-deep in CMD's Libya escapade, and they have long had involvement in Syria and Algeria; plenty of material for the islamo-bullstters to ginger up some grievance politics from.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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Burwood said:
ORD said:
He’ll still get 30% or more in the next General Election, assuming he survives until then.

We still seem to have ignored all the evidence that a substantial minority of the public is utterly immune to facts.
My bet is he's gone by Xmas. I think 30% is very optimistic and there isn't a party who would work with them. Labour are screwed with him at the helm.
I think the SNP would work with him - in exchange for allowing a second independence referendum. The Lib Dems might offer outside support too in exchange for increased public spending and reversing Brexit. They’d call it a “progressive alliance” and tell their supporters they’re doing it to keep the evil Tories out.

biggbn

23,429 posts

221 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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BlackLabel said:
I think the SNP would work with him - in exchange for allowing a second independence referendum. The Lib Dems might offer outside support too in exchange for increased public spending and reversing Brexit. They’d call it a “progressive alliance” and tell their supporters they’re doing it to keep the evil Tories out.
I think either of those options are necessary if Labour are too take power. Neither will happen with Captain Intransigent in charge...

Garvin

5,185 posts

178 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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biggbn said:
BlackLabel said:
I think the SNP would work with him - in exchange for allowing a second independence referendum. The Lib Dems might offer outside support too in exchange for increased public spending and reversing Brexit. They’d call it a “progressive alliance” and tell their supporters they’re doing it to keep the evil Tories out.
I think either of those options are necessary if Labour are too take power. Neither will happen with Captain Intransigent in charge...
Just as you thought the spectre of a Labour administration couldn’t get any worse, along comes a prospective coalition of Labour and SNP. . . . . . . .

biggbn

23,429 posts

221 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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Garvin said:
Just as you thought the spectre of a Labour administration couldn’t get any worse, along comes a prospective coalition of Labour and SNP. . . . . . . .
I would be delighted with such a partnership.

Garvin

5,185 posts

178 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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biggbn said:
Garvin said:
Just as you thought the spectre of a Labour administration couldn’t get any worse, along comes a prospective coalition of Labour and SNP. . . . . . . .
I would be delighted with such a partnership.
I see you are an anarchist wink

biggbn

23,429 posts

221 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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Garvin said:
biggbn said:
Garvin said:
Just as you thought the spectre of a Labour administration couldn’t get any worse, along comes a prospective coalition of Labour and SNP. . . . . . . .
I would be delighted with such a partnership.
I see you are an anarchist wink
I do sometimes wonder if traditional anarchists practiced the purest politics.

Pastor Of Muppets

3,269 posts

63 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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Labour in bed with the SNP...vomitnono , I know Politics is in a bad era just now but that stoops to new depths.

Isnt deceitful liars something we want to rid politics of rather than multiply them?

biggbn

23,429 posts

221 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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Pastor Of Muppets said:
Labour in bed with the SNP...vomitnono , I know Politics is in a bad era just now but that stoops to new depths.

Isnt deceitful liars something we want to rid politics of rather than multiply them?
Pedantry, but it wouldn't multiply them, merely combine them...

And, look around at the present crop of deceitful liars. We are about to elect one as pm!!

NoddyonNitrous

2,122 posts

233 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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biggbn said:
I would be delighted with such a partnership.
I would have been 20 years ago, but not in the IndyRef/marxist current era.

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