Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 3)
Discussion
Solocle said:
Just an everyday story of racist conspiracy-theorist Labour folk...
That local Labour apparatchiks hold such grim and ghastly views is of absolutely no surprise. Indeed you could say it is almost compulsory. There are literally thousands of these weird people, across the whole UK, filling functionary party positions and standing to be elected in minor local roles. Corbyn and his enablers have turned Labour into a turd-filled cesspit of a political party.
Zirconia said:
techiedave said:
Mr Corbyn wants to become a temporary PM,
This is the one bit that really stands out for me now. I think his advisors has said that no one wants him as a permanent PM and managed to think up another ploy. I reckon his shot at the title is to use this to get his feet under the table then stay. Len still wants his puppet there, the rest of the front bench are not really any more appealing, he will be in with his wrecking ball of policies before you can blink.El stovey said:
Zirconia said:
techiedave said:
Mr Corbyn wants to become a temporary PM,
This is the one bit that really stands out for me now. I think his advisors has said that no one wants him as a permanent PM and managed to think up another ploy. I reckon his shot at the title is to use this to get his feet under the table then stay. Len still wants his puppet there, the rest of the front bench are not really any more appealing, he will be in with his wrecking ball of policies before you can blink.SpeckledJim said:
If we thought some Tory MPs were in big trouble with their constituency associations for contradicting their electorates on Brexit, imagine the aggro they'd be signing-up for if they actively put Corbyn into No.10!
Surely supporting Corbyn over a no deal Brexit is grounds to be kicked out the partySpeckledJim said:
El stovey said:
Zirconia said:
techiedave said:
Mr Corbyn wants to become a temporary PM,
This is the one bit that really stands out for me now. I think his advisors has said that no one wants him as a permanent PM and managed to think up another ploy. I reckon his shot at the title is to use this to get his feet under the table then stay. Len still wants his puppet there, the rest of the front bench are not really any more appealing, he will be in with his wrecking ball of policies before you can blink.A Winner Is You said:
Surely supporting Corbyn over a no deal Brexit is grounds to be kicked out the party
Ha ha ha ...kicked out ?The way its going most of them will be to embaressed to admit they were ever a "Member" of the Torys...where is the outspoken Mr Bone who used to regularily barrack Cameron in the H/commons now...very muted indeed!
This is a Tory made problem & lies at their feet forever in history...it makes Thatchers Poll tax decision as asute lol....Sshh Jeremy is on BBC speaking
RAFsmoggy said:
A Winner Is You said:
Surely supporting Corbyn over a no deal Brexit is grounds to be kicked out the party
Ha ha ha ...kicked out ?The way its going most of them will be to embaressed to admit they were ever a "Member" of the Torys...where is the outspoken Mr Bone who used to regularily barrack Cameron in the H/commons now...very muted indeed!
This is a Tory made problem" & lies at their feet forever in history...it makes Thatchers Poll tax decision as asute lol
I mean, I realise most of you socialists hate the idea of letting the little people have a say on anything, and you're sure the towering intellects of your Dear Leaders know best in all circumstances. Obviously we will ignore the inconvenient fact that Labour voted in favour of holding the EU referendum and that Labour voted to enact Article 50 with leaving with No Deal as the default position. The Tories quite rightly trusted the people to decide. Whilst I think Dave was pretty naive to think he'd win the referendum, I cannot understand why you think letting the public decide was a bad thing?
Andy Zarse said:
By "Tory made problem", do you mean the party responding to the deep seated concerns of 17.4 million of the electorate about the way the nation was being sucked in further and further into the anti-democratic EU without let or hindrance?
TBF I voted leave and conservative and brexit has been a disaster for the conservatives and it’s pretty much all their fault. A referendum to shut up backbenchers was nothing to do with our concerns. We only got the referendum because Cameron high from winning the Scottish referendum thought he had it in the bag.
Now a vote of no confidence with conservatives helping to overthrow the government and Corbyn or Corbyn involved coalition government looks likely and we still haven’t left yet.
It’s definitely looks like a Tory made problem.
El stovey said:
Who exactly are these elites?
He’s all for working people but against elites. For the many not the few.
How do we know if we’re elites or the many or the few?
I don’t want to vote for him and then discover he’s actually going to be stoking up hate against me.
Simple:He’s all for working people but against elites. For the many not the few.
How do we know if we’re elites or the many or the few?
I don’t want to vote for him and then discover he’s actually going to be stoking up hate against me.
In all seriousness, that language is the sort of thing that should make any minority very nervous.
A governing party should govern for everyone, else tyrrany of the majority isn't far behind.
El stovey said:
Zirconia said:
techiedave said:
Mr Corbyn wants to become a temporary PM,
This is the one bit that really stands out for me now. I think his advisors has said that no one wants him as a permanent PM and managed to think up another ploy. I reckon his shot at the title is to use this to get his feet under the table then stay. Len still wants his puppet there, the rest of the front bench are not really any more appealing, he will be in with his wrecking ball of policies before you can blink.During one of the recent votes on something (Tory leadership I think) a reporter commented that one MP had given support to any candidate whose canvassers were asking who they supported. Mainly to keep their heads down and avoid the hard sell. Meaning I don't believe anything out of parliament at the moment when the actual ink is dry rather than what may happen.
However I don't believe for one minute he wants in for a few months and he is liar liar pants on fire with the temporary bit. Whether he has a chance or not.
RAFsmoggy said:
El stovey said:
Who exactly are these elites?
He’s all for working people but against elites. For the many not the few.
How do we know if we’re elites or the many or the few?
I don’t want to vote for him and then discover he’s actually going to be stoking up hate against me.
He’s all for working people but against elites. For the many not the few.
How do we know if we’re elites or the many or the few?
I don’t want to vote for him and then discover he’s actually going to be stoking up hate against me.
I tried to listen to what he had to say and it was all soundbites with no mention of how he would deliver what he's intending. But then, he is a politician of long standing - in 75 he was standing alongside Kinnock saying we must leave Europe (he meant the EEC).
What troubled me was the audience - sounded more like some of the ones I've stood next to at rock concerts - at Corby they were wooping and whistling when he said something they wanted to hear. Then at the end when the few press there were invited to ask Corbyn questions, the first press guy 'Andy' was drowned out by the yelling and whooping of the Lab 'supporters' in the room. They don't even know how to behave. Corbyn had to tell them to be quiet, he said 'I know Andy, he's a nice guy...'
I switched off then, thinking god help us!
Edited by Scrump on Monday 19th August 12:55
RAFsmoggy said:
El stovey said:
Who exactly are these elites?
He’s all for working people but against elites. For the many not the few.
How do we know if we’re elites or the many or the few?
I don’t want to vote for him and then discover he’s actually going to be stoking up hate against me.
He’s all for working people but against elites. For the many not the few.
How do we know if we’re elites or the many or the few?
I don’t want to vote for him and then discover he’s actually going to be stoking up hate against me.
I’m just saying, I’ve got a job so I’m “working people” but I want to know where elites start? He did say multi millionaires, which I’m not. I’m not Jewish either so maybe that helps.
Is he still against private schools because a lot of his MPs went to them including him and their kids still go there.
Your reply doesn’t really shed much light on my questions tbh.
Edited by Scrump on Monday 19th August 12:56
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