Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 3)

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irocfan

40,545 posts

191 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Smiler. said:
Justayellowbadge said:
Do I look like an anti-Semitist?
Nothing could be führer from the truth.
be careful, you'll make him Führerious

Murph7355

37,760 posts

257 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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alfabadass said:
Corbyn is playing a blinder.

Can't see Brexit happening now.
If people vote for him on the basis that he will keep us in the EU then it would seem it will be proven that Leave voters the last time aren't the thicko racists after all....

However it does seem that Labour are betting everything on a 2nd referendum being an election winner.

I suspect they are wrong, but who knows.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Murph7355 said:
However it does seem that Labour are betting everything on a 2nd referendum being an election winner.

I suspect they are wrong, but who knows.
THe tide might be with them, I guess how Maybot is handling things might aid them with this. I'm interested in it, but I like numbers and things. biggrin
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2018/07/27/first-time-mo...

probably time for another election, can't recall the last one

Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Labour decides it's policies on which way the winds blowing every morning.

Listening to various interviews at the conference this week has been fking hilarious.

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Cobnapint said:
Labour decides it's policies on which way the winds blowing every morning.

Listening to various interviews at the conference this week has been fking hilarious.
Given how they're doing in the polls and the st shower that is the Conservative Party at the moment, I found it fking scary.

motco

15,967 posts

247 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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I had cause to walk a footpath through the campus of the Bucks New University (Wycombe Poly as was) this afternoon. It is freshers' week and the Wycombe Labour Party were on site in force handing out propaganda to the new students. They are clearly going for what they see as a winning tactic of promising free money/goods etc., to the new crop of wet-behind-the-ears kids. Last year's crop might have wised up when no free stuff found its way to them, but the new intake are as gullible as they were then. If last GE is anything to go by these students will be double voting in significant numbers too. It's hard to see how the Conservatives can counter this - perhaps stalls outside OAP day centres?

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Smiler.

11,752 posts

231 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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motco said:
I had cause to walk a footpath through the campus of the Bucks New University (Wycombe Poly as was) this afternoon. It is freshers' week and the Wycombe Labour Party were on site in force handing out propaganda to the new students. They are clearly going for what they see as a winning tactic of promising free money/goods etc., to the new crop of wet-behind-the-ears kids. Last year's crop might have wised up when no free stuff found its way to them, but the new intake are as gullible as they were then. If last GE is anything to go by these students will be double voting in significant numbers too. It's hard to see how the Conservatives can counter this - perhaps stalls outside OAP day centres?
I listened with incredulity to the piece on R4's Today when Justin Lightweight was interviewing the Queen of the Union of Studentland about the recent ruling of Essay Mills.

The interviewee actually suggested, when asked if she thought their preclusion was a good thing, that the real question should be why students felt they needed to use them. The premise being that they were overworked & underpaid, yadda yadda yadda.

Nothing to do with said students being lazy, thick as st wastrels then.

FFS.

Russian Troll Bot

24,991 posts

228 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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His supporters are now trying to get #BoycottTheGuardian trending because of the mean things it said about our Dear Leader In Waiting. What will poor Owen Jones do now? rofl

https://twitter.com/TheCanaryUK/status/10453536242...

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

137 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Russian Troll Bot said:
His supporters are now trying to get #BoycottTheGuardian trending because of the mean things it said about our Dear Leader In Waiting. What will poor Owen Jones do now? rofl

https://twitter.com/TheCanaryUK/status/10453536242...
The Left spend so much time fighting each other you wonder how they manage to do anything else.

irocfan

40,545 posts

191 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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Russian Troll Bot said:
His supporters are now trying to get #BoycottTheGuardian trending because of the mean things it said about our Dear Leader In Waiting. What will poor Owen Jones do now? rofl

https://twitter.com/TheCanaryUK/status/10453536242...
lmao!


ETA - I just read some of the comments on there, there are some seriously weird/deluded people out there!!!

Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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Russian Troll Bot said:
His supporters are now trying to get #BoycottTheGuardian trending because of the mean things it said about our Dear Leader In Waiting. What will poor Owen Jones do now? rofl

https://twitter.com/TheCanaryUK/status/10453536242...
The whole Labour Party set up and the way it operates is starting to resemble a sinister dictatorship from the communist era.

His deselection of MPs that don't toe the party line, brainwashing the youth and accompanying pledge to lower the voting age, a desire to tame the freedoms of the British press, a threat to the wealthy that he's coming for them and the underhand activities of Momentum all add up to something quite scary.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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Cobnapint said:
The whole Labour Party set up and the way it operates is starting to resemble a sinister dictatorship from the communist era.

His deselection of MPs that don't toe the party line, brainwashing the youth and accompanying pledge to lower the voting age, a desire to tame the freedoms of the British press, a threat to the wealthy that he's coming for them and the underhand activities of Momentum all add up to something quite scary.
But you have to admire his commitment.

By all the definitions of Labour wealthy, he would be caught up in it hand over fist.

S11Steve

6,374 posts

185 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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Cobnapint said:
The whole Labour Party set up and the way it operates is starting to resemble a sinister dictatorship from the communist era.

His deselection of MPs that don't toe the party line, brainwashing the youth and accompanying pledge to lower the voting age, a desire to tame the freedoms of the British press, a threat to the wealthy that he's coming for them and the underhand activities of Momentum all add up to something quite scary.
There are so many quotes from 1984 that have been previously levelled at Trump and May, but they now seem far more appropriate to the current flavour of Corbyns vision for a Labour dictatorship.

0000

13,812 posts

192 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
By all the definitions of Labour wealthy, he would be caught up in it hand over fist.
Except that he dropped out of trade union studies at a poly and I'm not sure he's ever held a real job. So he's definitely a "working class" millionaire.

Besides which, he's clearly already far more equal than the other animals in his party, he has nothing to fear.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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I quite like the idea of the workforce owning 10% of companies. Businesses shouldn't be forced to sell shares to anyone, but my feeling is that if employees had more of a stake in the businesses they worked for they might put a bit more effort in. Having members of the workforce on the board would also be good because it should remove the "them and us" thing that seems to dog a lot of businesses. Businesses need staff and staff need somone to work for.

London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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Willy Nilly said:
I quite like the idea of the workforce owning 10% of companies. Businesses shouldn't be forced to sell shares to anyone, but my feeling is that if employees had more of a stake in the businesses they worked for they might put a bit more effort in. Having members of the workforce on the board would also be good because it should remove the "them and us" thing that seems to dog a lot of businesses. Businesses need staff and staff need somone to work for.
It's £500. That's motivating next to no-one.

All that plan is is a massive tax grab that will put off companies being located here.

As for employees on the board...what do you think happens to them? They often input nothing into the process, but quite like a fancy lunch every month/quarter.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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Willy Nilly said:
I quite like the idea of the workforce owning 10% of companies. Businesses shouldn't be forced to sell shares to anyone, but my feeling is that if employees had more of a stake in the businesses they worked for they might put a bit more effort in. Having members of the workforce on the board would also be good because it should remove the "them and us" thing that seems to dog a lot of businesses. Businesses need staff and staff need somone to work for.
a return to stakeholder capitalism?

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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London424 said:
Willy Nilly said:
I quite like the idea of the workforce owning 10% of companies. Businesses shouldn't be forced to sell shares to anyone, but my feeling is that if employees had more of a stake in the businesses they worked for they might put a bit more effort in. Having members of the workforce on the board would also be good because it should remove the "them and us" thing that seems to dog a lot of businesses. Businesses need staff and staff need somone to work for.
It's £500. That's motivating next to no-one.

All that plan is is a massive tax grab that will put off companies being located here.

As for employees on the board...what do you think happens to them? They often input nothing into the process, but quite like a fancy lunch every month/quarter.
I'm not suggesting that any Labour idea should be implemented, that would be crazy, but the UK has historically had poor labour relations. John Lewis seems to have a good relationship with the workforce, so is that a model that could be used more often in business? A lot of issues with staff are because they have less of an investment in the company they work for, it's just a job to a lot of people. So, maybe owning a little bit of the company and getting a few dividends would motivate people better.

Having employees on the board may give the workforce more insight into what the business is doing, rather than do this because we tell you to. It always seemed to me that the issue with the unions was that they were putting a large division between staff and management. Anything that helps everyone pull in the same direction must surely be a good thing. Most of it will be boring and st and it's not like the directors aren't on it for a free lunch and an afternoon off either.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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Something needs to change. Is the labour plan crazy?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/pilar-stella/stakeh...
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