Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 3)

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Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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jakesmith said:
Mothersruin said:
jakesmith said:
Mothersruin said:
changinged post. Ok, if true, I stand corrected. Not my experience before, but maybe the recent Governments have started to get a grip.

I still see far too many bingo-winged hippos with dadless feral kids.

Edited by Mothersruin on Wednesday 16th October 09:44
Maybe try harder & live in a better area then
True, retiring at 46 a few years ago and living in a nice village in one of the nations national parks is a bit st.

Life's been a disaster.

Sorry, I'll try harder to ignore stuff when I have to mix with the oiks.

And you can go fk yourself.
It can't be that nice if you keep coming into contact with dole scroungers and in your words their '(unt' children, what a delightful specimen you are!
I can't imagine from that kind of comment, that you're any more pleasant to live near TBH.
Rather a chav thand his noisy car / dog than someone who calls children '(unts' and uses the word 'oiks'
Excellent. I played nice standing corrected due to your new info.

You stay in your patch and we'll both be happy.

Edited by Mothersruin on Thursday 17th October 18:28

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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Mothersruin said:
Excellent.
Sorry forgot to say, thanks so much for the insight into your sucess and financial situation - sounds great!


jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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Mothersruin said:
Excellent. I played nice standing corrected due to your new info.

You stay in your patch and we'll both be happy.

Edited by Mothersruin on Thursday 17th October 18:28
Less is more old son, was better before the edit smile

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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All yours poppet.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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Mothersruin said:
All yours poppet.
Oh now I'm fuming! That showed me eh?

Agammemnon

1,628 posts

59 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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Guys- enough. It's getting boring.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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Agammemnon said:
Guys- enough. It's getting boring.
Sorry old hand

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

142 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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So I see JC has threatened anyone going against the 3 line whip will.be de-selected come election time. Standard vote down absolutely everything because it doesn't meet their impossible Brexit demands.

I wonder how many of labour MP's will be bold enough to vote for the deal, knowing full well that the electorate have sussed the labour stance on brexit and that most of their MP's in leave constituencies will be torn a new one anyways for betrayal.

I'd say Boris needs about 15 of them.


SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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dazwalsh said:
So I see JC has threatened anyone going against the 3 line whip will.be de-selected come election time. Standard vote down absolutely everything because it doesn't meet their impossible Brexit demands.

I wonder how many of labour MP's will be bold enough to vote for the deal, knowing full well that the electorate have sussed the labour stance on brexit and that most of their MP's in leave constituencies will be torn a new one anyways for betrayal.

I'd say Boris needs about 15 of them.
Yup. Over a hundred Leave constituency Labour MPs have the choice of being booted out temporarily by Jeremy Corbyn, who might not be around very long, or sacked properly by their constituency associations and electorates, who will be around forever.

I reckon 15 of them will find their way to telling JC to fk off.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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What about the DUP, Tory rebels, Independents etc they might vote against

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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jakesmith said:
What about the DUP, Tory rebels, Independents etc they might vote against
Approximately a dozen Labour rebels will tip the balance.

If a second £1bn brings the DUP back to heel then it’s a done deal.

Gareth Snell and Ruth Smeeth have staked their careers on it. Need 10 more.

Gargamel

15,022 posts

262 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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dazwalsh said:
So I see JC has threatened anyone going against the 3 line whip will.be de-selected come election time. Standard vote down absolutely everything because it doesn't meet their impossible Brexit demands.

I wonder how many of labour MP's will be bold enough to vote for the deal, knowing full well that the electorate have sussed the labour stance on brexit and that most of their MP's in leave constituencies will be torn a new one anyways for betrayal.

I'd say Boris needs about 15 of them.
This is exactly where JC’s own history of voting against his own leadership when he was a backbencher comes back to bite him.


Unbusy

934 posts

98 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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jakesmith said:
What about the DUP, Tory rebels, Independents etc they might vote against
Yes indeed. I’m wondering if enough Labour MPs vote against their whip and the deal goes through if JC will stand down? If not maybe the party will decide it’s time he went in order to start afresh, particularly wrt to the anti-Semitism issue. Interesting days ahead ...

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

142 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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jakesmith said:
What about the DUP, Tory rebels, Independents etc they might vote against
The DUP will be thrown a sweetener, independents will come onboard too I'd say and I reckon it's going to be very close Indeed. Minds will be focussed as the prospect of a second ref or revoke are fading away fast, leaving only deal or no deal, especially with Boris looking good in the forthcoming GE.

The EU should have categorically refused an extension on the back of this deal and this deal would have sailed through as half the commons st themselves at the prospect of being responsible for no deal brexit.

As much as I dislike Boris, i do wonder if he is about to produce an absolute blinder with brexit, in a zombie parliament no less, before walking a GE and following through with his generous domestic policy. This could be the end of JC and co I reckon.

Edited by dazwalsh on Thursday 17th October 22:38

paulw123

3,256 posts

191 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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dazwalsh said:
jakesmith said:
What about the DUP, Tory rebels, Independents etc they might vote against
The EU should have categorically refused an extension on the back of this deal and this deal would have sailed through as half the commons st themselves at the prospect of being responsible for no deal brexit.
Wish they had said as much though

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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paulw123 said:
dazwalsh said:
jakesmith said:
What about the DUP, Tory rebels, Independents etc they might vote against
The EU should have categorically refused an extension on the back of this deal and this deal would have sailed through as half the commons st themselves at the prospect of being responsible for no deal brexit.
Wish they had said as much though
Time for that tomorrow.

I expect the EU are watching the UK response this evening, and are ready to drop that on us tomorrow to rattle the hell out of half of Westminster.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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paulw123 said:
dazwalsh said:
jakesmith said:
What about the DUP, Tory rebels, Independents etc they might vote against
The EU should have categorically refused an extension on the back of this deal and this deal would have sailed through as half the commons st themselves at the prospect of being responsible for no deal brexit.
Wish they had said as much though
Can you blame them for wanting us to remain. Soft touch, deep pockets. Relatively civilised. If we leave Germany and France are stting themselves on FOM

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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Burwood said:
paulw123 said:
dazwalsh said:
jakesmith said:
What about the DUP, Tory rebels, Independents etc they might vote against
The EU should have categorically refused an extension on the back of this deal and this deal would have sailed through as half the commons st themselves at the prospect of being responsible for no deal brexit.
Wish they had said as much though
Can you blame them for wanting us to remain. Soft touch, deep pockets. Relatively civilised. If we leave Germany and France are stting themselves on FOM
Not at all. There’s no good news in this for the EU, except avoiding no deal.

If only for them their PR was true and that simply by leaving we would obviously, visibly founder.

Their reaction to the vote, and behaviour since shows they don’t believe that is true.

gazapc

1,321 posts

161 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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SpeckledJim said:
Time for that tomorrow.

I expect the EU are watching the UK response this evening, and are ready to drop that on us tomorrow to rattle the hell out of half of Westminster.
Unfortunately the EU loves can kicking and don't want to be seen 'responsible' for a no deal exit. So I don't think they will issue such a firm statement.

I think it's going to be close but I think yes to the deal might just snatch it on Sat. Even so, things are not over the line with two more weeks of legal and parliamentary antics to overcome.

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

142 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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SpeckledJim said:
Burwood said:
paulw123 said:
dazwalsh said:
jakesmith said:
What about the DUP, Tory rebels, Independents etc they might vote against
The EU should have categorically refused an extension on the back of this deal and this deal would have sailed through as half the commons st themselves at the prospect of being responsible for no deal brexit.
Wish they had said as much though
Can you blame them for wanting us to remain. Soft touch, deep pockets. Relatively civilised. If we leave Germany and France are stting themselves on FOM
Not at all. There’s no good news in this for the EU, except avoiding no deal.

If only for them their PR was true and that simply by leaving we would obviously, visibly founder.

Their reaction to the vote, and behaviour since shows they don’t believe that is true.
If only they'd have thrown Cameron a few more concessions we may have avoided all this, now they are staring down a financial black hole and the net contributors are going to be squeezed for more cash going forward. Coupled with germany teetering on recession it's not great timing for the EU this brexit lark.
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