Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 3)
Discussion
BigMon said:
technodup said:
nly if you assume we'll have another election in 4 years time. Which I wouldn't.
What's to stop them creating a situation where they need to extend their term? After being on the sidelines forever McDonnell and his ilk won't be giving up without a fight. There's plenty of regimes with a lack of, or rigged elections. Don't assume it couldn't happen here.
Because I think a lot of you are creating a pretty daft left-wing bogeyman and, if you think about it rationally, what you're fearing just won't happen.What's to stop them creating a situation where they need to extend their term? After being on the sidelines forever McDonnell and his ilk won't be giving up without a fight. There's plenty of regimes with a lack of, or rigged elections. Don't assume it couldn't happen here.
What's to say Boris won't do all this?
I just don't buy into it from either end of the spectrum. If you don tinfoil and are a leftie you could be wittering about Russian interference in Brexit\Boris, Dominic Cummings being some sinister Machiavellian presence, etc, etc and I don't buy into that either.
Don't get me wrong, if Corbyn got in I wouldn't be turning cartwheels. But that would be democracy. I didn't and don't agree with Brexit either, but the vote was won to leave so we have to leave. That was democracy.
Boris does seem to have been taking us in that direction but it does seem a bit "project fear 2" to me. Mark-C said:
technodup said:
BigMon said:
They honestly won't. And they'd be out again in 4 years if they went 'ultra left' so, as I say, don't panic.
Only if you assume we'll have another election in 4 years time. Which I wouldn't.What's to stop them creating a situation where they need to extend their term? After being on the sidelines forever McDonnell and his ilk won't be giving up without a fight. There's plenty of regimes with a lack of, or rigged elections. Don't assume it couldn't happen here.
Manna from heaven for a nutter like McDonnell (or Milne). It'd be for our own good though...
Mark-C said:
It's the current parliament (and, therefore, MPs from both sides) that have just circumvented the FTPA with a specific act of parliament ... nothing directly to do with Corbyn. Under the FTPA the next election after this will be Thursday 2nd May 2024 and it would take a massive rigging to extend beyond that. I get your paranoia but there aren't enough nutters in even the current Labour Party to get around that ...
The FTPA will be the first piece of legislation on the chopper in the next Parliament. 
Grindle said:
IMAGINE that moron Abbott in charge of national security. Vote for whoever you like but never Labour.
A million more migrants a year, a trashed economy and inflation back up, along with unemployment. I am no Tory lover but Corbyn and Abbott? Hell no.
Why do you feel the need to call anyone a moron. It was once a medical term for mental impairment.A million more migrants a year, a trashed economy and inflation back up, along with unemployment. I am no Tory lover but Corbyn and Abbott? Hell no.
I do not like DA but she studied History at Cambridge, she is therefore not unintelligent.
Surely it’s much better to criticise her views or policies.
Nickgnome said:
Why do you feel the need to call anyone a moron. It was once a medical term for mental impairment.
I do not like DA but she studied History at Cambridge, she is therefore not unintelligent.
Surely it’s much better to criticise her views or policies.
"Having been effortlessly top of her class at Harrow County, she now found herself struggling a little, emerging with only a 2:2 degree. ‘Maybe I peaked intellectually at 17,’ she reflected."I do not like DA but she studied History at Cambridge, she is therefore not unintelligent.
Surely it’s much better to criticise her views or policies.
From the Times - 28 March 1992
768c said:
Nickgnome said:
I do not like DA but she studied History at Cambridge, she is therefore not unintelligent.
If that's the case, why does she hide it? The intelligence, I mean..technodup said:
BigMon said:
They honestly won't. And they'd be out again in 4 years if they went 'ultra left' so, as I say, don't panic.
Only if you assume we'll have another election in 4 years time. Which I wouldn't.What's to stop them creating a situation where they need to extend their term? After being on the sidelines forever McDonnell and his ilk won't be giving up without a fight. There's plenty of regimes with a lack of, or rigged elections. Don't assume it couldn't happen here.
It took a week of rioting a few years ago to prove how close we were to the brink.
Imagine those riots, but with the support of the ones near No.10 - next door in fact.
Evanivitch said:
motco said:
The structural deficit has seriously reduced and employment has never been higher. Disaster, obviously.
And yet under-employment is higher than it has been since 2008. https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-underemployment...
But hey, the conservatives aren't fudging the figures are they?
Jobs Economist said:
John Philpott, the director of the Jobs Economist consultancy, said there was a near standstill in private sector job creation, accounting for only 2,000 of the 31,000 additional people in work over the three-month period. Public sector jobs, mostly in the NHS and education, were the prime source of continued market buoyancy.
Or...Jobs Economist said:
Jobs growth has been driven in recent years by rising numbers of women in work, as well as rapid increases in older workers staying in their roles longer. The ONS said changes in the state pension age for women had resulted in fewer retiring between the ages of 60 and 65.
So hire more state workers and force others to stay in work longer? Stronger economy my ass.In one breath it's under-investment in the NHS, the next it's too many new jobs in the NHS - Jeez. Thank God I'm not a politician, I'd have no hair left.
Nickgnome said:
Why do you feel the need to call anyone a moron. It was once a medical term for mental impairment.
I do not like DA but she studied History at Cambridge, she is therefore not unintelligent.
Surely it’s much better to criticise her views or policies.
Because she is a fI do not like DA but she studied History at Cambridge, she is therefore not unintelligent.
Surely it’s much better to criticise her views or policies.
king moron!CustardOnChips said:
Nickgnome said:
Why do you feel the need to call anyone a moron. It was once a medical term for mental impairment.
I do not like DA but she studied History at Cambridge, she is therefore not unintelligent.
Surely it’s much better to criticise her views or policies.
Because she is a fI do not like DA but she studied History at Cambridge, she is therefore not unintelligent.
Surely it’s much better to criticise her views or policies.
king moron!I agree, moron is not inaccurate.
Nickgnome said:
Why do you feel the need to call anyone a moron. It was once a medical term for mental impairment.
I do not like DA but she studied History at Cambridge, she is therefore not unintelligent.
Surely it’s much better to criticise her views or policies.
For someone who is on paper not unintelligent, she does a remarkable impression of a complete idiot every time she opens her mouth.I do not like DA but she studied History at Cambridge, she is therefore not unintelligent.
Surely it’s much better to criticise her views or policies.
fblm said:
Nickgnome said:
Why do you feel the need to call anyone a moron. It was once a medical term for mental impairment.
I do not like DA but she studied History at Cambridge, she is therefore not unintelligent.
Surely it’s much better to criticise her views or policies.
For someone who is on paper not unintelligent, she does a remarkable impression of a complete idiot every time she opens her mouth.I do not like DA but she studied History at Cambridge, she is therefore not unintelligent.
Surely it’s much better to criticise her views or policies.
She certainly wasn't stupid. There was a lot of speculation about her health after her performance in the last campaign.
She really doesn't come across as being sharp enough now to have had the life she has lived.
Nickgnome said:
I do not like DA but she studied History at Cambridge, she is therefore not unintelligent.
And yet she thinks Mao did a lot of good. Not much of a historian!https://youtu.be/uB4o5n2EGyA
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