Anti-vax conspiraloons actually killing people.
Discussion
I was called to my doctor due to my age to have a shingles vaccination. I asked why, as you do, and was told that shingles rates in older people are increasing/have increased over the last (10 possibly) years. When I asked if this was due to the MMR rejection rates, I was told, 'We can't comment'.
In the queue of old biddies there was no doubt. Some had grandchildren who had caught measles. There were others who had given their kids 'a strong talking to, but they won't listen' sort of thing.
There was a certain smugness that 'we' had had our kids vaccinated, but then that burk on the stand with the American clown hadn't published his rubbish by then.
In the queue of old biddies there was no doubt. Some had grandchildren who had caught measles. There were others who had given their kids 'a strong talking to, but they won't listen' sort of thing.
There was a certain smugness that 'we' had had our kids vaccinated, but then that burk on the stand with the American clown hadn't published his rubbish by then.
I wonder if part of the fear is the mistrust in the US pharmaceutical industry.
Their perceived lack of morality in running a a market of supply and demand propped up by IP law, and the lack of socialised healthcare, means that life saving drugs are sold to people who can ill-afford them, and withdrawn when they can't.
Given such a lack of trust in the morals/ethics of 'Big Pharma' It isn't a huge leap to jump from "they're only interested in money, not saving lives" to "they're making people ill to make money".
Their perceived lack of morality in running a a market of supply and demand propped up by IP law, and the lack of socialised healthcare, means that life saving drugs are sold to people who can ill-afford them, and withdrawn when they can't.
Given such a lack of trust in the morals/ethics of 'Big Pharma' It isn't a huge leap to jump from "they're only interested in money, not saving lives" to "they're making people ill to make money".
Vaud said:
RTB said:
Isn't Shingles due to reemergence of the chicken pox virus within the peripheral nervous system?
Yes. I've had it twice and it's bloody awful.LoonyTunes said:
I've had Chicken Pox twice (yes twice) despite being vaccinated for it, once as a child after which I was vaccinated and once as an adult. With the adult dose of it I had to have a Doctor called out at one point as I was in so much pain. He looked at me and said it was the worst case he'd ever seen. Chicken Pox as an adult is horrific and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
Yup. I had to use freezer packs (as in -18c) strapped around my midriff to give any relief from the pain, plus cocodomol. Derek Smith said:
I was called to my doctor due to my age to have a shingles vaccination. I asked why, as you do, and was told that shingles rates in older people are increasing/have increased over the last (10 possibly) years. When I asked if this was due to the MMR rejection rates, I was told, 'We can't comment'.
In the queue of old biddies there was no doubt. Some had grandchildren who had caught measles. There were others who had given their kids 'a strong talking to, but they won't listen' sort of thing.
There was a certain smugness that 'we' had had our kids vaccinated, but then that burk on the stand with the American clown hadn't published his rubbish by then.
Nothing to do with measles etc. It's the chickenpox virus. The Shingles vax programme has been going for some yrs now, offered free to anyone 70 or over. I'll get the offer soon.In the queue of old biddies there was no doubt. Some had grandchildren who had caught measles. There were others who had given their kids 'a strong talking to, but they won't listen' sort of thing.
There was a certain smugness that 'we' had had our kids vaccinated, but then that burk on the stand with the American clown hadn't published his rubbish by then.
I must be f unusual among my friends and people I meet daily - everyone is on meds of some sort. F that! Got a call again for the 'new' flu jab before Xmas. No thanks. Then got a bad cold. Immune system still working well, cold gone in a week (like it usually does.)
I read last year that almost 70 million anti-depressant prescriptions were issued. 1 year. 70 MILLION!
Now I realise they are of great help to some, but are we really that f depressed as a nation to require that amount dished out? Like sweets!
I was almost forced on beta blockers last year by a nurse (everyone's on them she told me, even her!), but knew there was f
k all wrong with my blood pressure - I stood my ground until my GP backed me. I just hate (wrong word) seeing Docs! ie I have WCS, have had most of my life. I even had a routine operation halted outside theatre in 2017 because my BP went so high, one nurse commented that by the reading I should be dead! I led there on the trolley and knew immediately something was amiss by the way the anaesthetist's jaw dropped open. 
dandarez said:
Nothing to do with measles etc. It's the chickenpox virus. The Shingles vax programme has been going for some yrs now, offered free to anyone 70 or over. I'll get the offer soon.
I must be f unusual among my friends and people I meet daily - everyone is on meds of some sort. F that! Got a call again for the 'new' flu jab before Xmas. No thanks. Then got a bad cold. Immune system still working well, cold gone in a week (like it usually does.)
I read last year that almost 70 million anti-depressant prescriptions were issued. 1 year. 70 MILLION!
Now I realise they are of great help to some, but are we really that f depressed as a nation to require that amount dished out? Like sweets!
I was almost forced on beta blockers last year by a nurse (everyone's on them she told me, even her!), but knew there was fk all wrong with my blood pressure - I stood my ground until my GP backed me. I just hate (wrong word) seeing Docs! ie I have WCS, have had most of my life. I even had a routine operation halted outside theatre in 2017 because my BP went so high, one nurse commented that by the reading I should be dead! I led there on the trolley and knew immediately something was amiss by the way the anaesthetist's jaw dropped open.
I have white coat syndrome too. I even get wound up by taking my own BP with my own instrument! If I take it more than once it steadily declines.I must be f unusual among my friends and people I meet daily - everyone is on meds of some sort. F that! Got a call again for the 'new' flu jab before Xmas. No thanks. Then got a bad cold. Immune system still working well, cold gone in a week (like it usually does.)
I read last year that almost 70 million anti-depressant prescriptions were issued. 1 year. 70 MILLION!
Now I realise they are of great help to some, but are we really that f depressed as a nation to require that amount dished out? Like sweets!
I was almost forced on beta blockers last year by a nurse (everyone's on them she told me, even her!), but knew there was f
k all wrong with my blood pressure - I stood my ground until my GP backed me. I just hate (wrong word) seeing Docs! ie I have WCS, have had most of my life. I even had a routine operation halted outside theatre in 2017 because my BP went so high, one nurse commented that by the reading I should be dead! I led there on the trolley and knew immediately something was amiss by the way the anaesthetist's jaw dropped open. The BP Stasi have been hounding me for decades as it seems that my relaxing BP is in the higher end of normal when it's being measured. My local GP surgery loaned me a 24h monitor and the results from that got them off my back for a couple of years. Obviously I'm incapable of consciously relaxing.
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