Teenager slapped by Policeman
Discussion
Sheets Tabuer said:
Well you definitely see it different to me, I saw a bloke a foot and a half taller than her holding her face, I doubt many would sit passively. Her hand was also on his left side the opposite to his taser, she was obviously defending herself. Lets be honest if his taser is getting in the way of restraining someone he should probably move it.
I'm not saying he was wrong but he loved giving her a dig in the face, lets admit it.
and how would you have handled her? Given her a lollipop whilst asking, if it's not too inconvenient, whether she'd mind awfully if she would please pop down to the station at some point that doesn't put her out?I'm not saying he was wrong but he loved giving her a dig in the face, lets admit it.
Sheets Tabuer said:
Greendubber said:
What makes you think he loved it, because it just sounds like you're talking b
ks to me.
That's what investigations are for, to find out what happened, not just to say fks to me.k it he's plod so it's ok which is what his CC is implying.South tdf said:
If she was my 14 year old daughter we would be sitting outside the police station until the officers came on duty and she would be making personal apologies to both.
Trouble is I see to many parents who have no control over their kids and think the sun shines out of their backsides.
Low cognitives make up the majority of the population.........Trouble is I see to many parents who have no control over their kids and think the sun shines out of their backsides.
Greendubber said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
Wait a minute, how come when I stopped a chav beating an old man with a walking stick I spent 24 hours in the cells while they "investigated" her accusations of assault despite 4 or 5 witness statements that I only held her down and the CC is saying it's ok for his officers to smack someone in the face because they are doing their job, had a bit of abuse earlier and you've never been in the situation?
Surely as she was no threat there should be an investigation of assault, you know like what I had?
I'm not saying she shouldn't have got a smack though.
I personally think the push came with the girl trying to bite the female officers arm. It came before grabbing the general taser pouch area, which I don’t think she was going for.
If someone is trying to bite, spit, headbutt, let me tell you it is more than reasonable to make contact. Officers are likely to deal with violent people, but it is not acceptable for them to be assaulted or see it as part of the job.
People seemingly shocked by this need to see a bit more policing reality.
Trying to restrain women, teens, children is always a mess. They get given a bit more allowance to be kind on them but that usually translates to a mess when all they want to do is actually fight. And when you do need to up the level of force people are outraged. You can’t win.
Usual rubbish also when there are 4-5 officers ‘restraining’ a violent person. Seen as excessive, but it takes numbers to restrain people who are being violent. It isn’t 4-5 people assaulting this person. There is a massive difference.
People don’t like to see the messy side of policing and suddenly become experts in the matter when something like this occurs.
Whether it is a push or right up to a gun shot, if it is necessary and reasonable force then sometimes it is required. That’s the way it is.
If someone is trying to bite, spit, headbutt, let me tell you it is more than reasonable to make contact. Officers are likely to deal with violent people, but it is not acceptable for them to be assaulted or see it as part of the job.
People seemingly shocked by this need to see a bit more policing reality.
Trying to restrain women, teens, children is always a mess. They get given a bit more allowance to be kind on them but that usually translates to a mess when all they want to do is actually fight. And when you do need to up the level of force people are outraged. You can’t win.
Usual rubbish also when there are 4-5 officers ‘restraining’ a violent person. Seen as excessive, but it takes numbers to restrain people who are being violent. It isn’t 4-5 people assaulting this person. There is a massive difference.
People don’t like to see the messy side of policing and suddenly become experts in the matter when something like this occurs.
Whether it is a push or right up to a gun shot, if it is necessary and reasonable force then sometimes it is required. That’s the way it is.
Glad the CC has their backs, it looks bad but when you consider she wasnt injured yet both officers requred medical attention i would call that reasonable force.
Huge respect for officers day in day out dealing with the dreggs of society. Its a thankless task, especially with some dhead with a camera in your face and having your actions scrutinised by morons on facebook.
Huge respect for officers day in day out dealing with the dreggs of society. Its a thankless task, especially with some d
head with a camera in your face and having your actions scrutinised by morons on facebook. Deserved what she got at least. Glad someone videoed it to show the police behaving with restraint against the feral kid.
Nobody should react against the police doing their job in that way unless they want to suffer the consequences. And a belated lesson from the non-parents might help too instead of blaming plod for doing their job with a lot of restraint.
Hope the officers’ injuries heal quickly and not too much time or money is wasted on looking into this.
Nobody should react against the police doing their job in that way unless they want to suffer the consequences. And a belated lesson from the non-parents might help too instead of blaming plod for doing their job with a lot of restraint.
Hope the officers’ injuries heal quickly and not too much time or money is wasted on looking into this.
pavarotti1980 said:
Are you suggesting preventing a successful army career like your own (allegedly).
which regiment were you in?
Show me where I said I was in the army. Please.which regiment were you in?
A hint- I didn't say I was in the army. Neither is it relevant to this thread, neither is it any of your business.
Rovinghawk said:
Show me where I said I was in the army. Please.
A hint- I didn't say I was in the army. Neither is it relevant to this thread, neither is it any of your business.
Apologies. Armed Forces.A hint- I didn't say I was in the army. Neither is it relevant to this thread, neither is it any of your business.
Dont post things if you arent comfortable with people asking questions. You made the comparison with the police and your military career plenty times in other threads, apparently putting yourself between danger and the public. Surely that would be relevant in this topic to. What would you have done using your vast experience of putting yourself between danger (teenage girl) and public?
pavarotti1980 said:
Apologies. Armed Forces.
Dont post things if you arent comfortable with people asking questions. You made the comparison with the police and your military career plenty times in other threads, apparently putting yourself between danger and the public. Surely that would be relevant in this topic to. What would you have done using your vast experience of putting yourself between danger (teenage girl) and public?
I was in Sang Bang, Dang Gong — I was all over that place…. I was Agent Orange, if that helps? . Dont post things if you arent comfortable with people asking questions. You made the comparison with the police and your military career plenty times in other threads, apparently putting yourself between danger and the public. Surely that would be relevant in this topic to. What would you have done using your vast experience of putting yourself between danger (teenage girl) and public?
pavarotti1980 said:
What would you have done ............?
There you go again, wanting to talk about what didn't happen rather than what did. In answer to your question, I have no idea as I wasn't there & don't know the details.Having seen the video I'd say it's brief & of incredibly poor quality (use landscape, guys!). It's hard to tell with certainty many of the details & either side can argue their case based on what they think happened.
The girl is almost certainly a bit scummy- whether the smack is acceptable is up for debate.
Rovinghawk said:
There you go again, wanting to talk about what didn't happen rather than what did. In answer to your question, I have no idea as I wasn't there & don't know the details.
Having seen the video I'd say it's brief & of incredibly poor quality (use landscape, guys!). It's hard to tell with certainty many of the details & either side can argue their case based on what they think happened.
The girl is almost certainly a bit scummy- whether the smack is acceptable is up for debate.
No simply asking in your experience of being in what you described previously (danger v public = rovinghawk to the rescue) what you would have done. Having seen the video I'd say it's brief & of incredibly poor quality (use landscape, guys!). It's hard to tell with certainty many of the details & either side can argue their case based on what they think happened.
The girl is almost certainly a bit scummy- whether the smack is acceptable is up for debate.
Your comments of whether it is acceptable seem to be at odds with legislation and the comment from the CC. Unless you think it is acceptable to bite a police officer...
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