Teenager slapped by Policeman
Discussion
Some stats (for anyone interested).
Govt figures suggest there are 23,000 assaults on police every year in E&W.
That means a police officer is assaulted every 20 minutes (ish) on average in E&W.
Surprised ? Shocked ? Don't be.
The Police Federation survey suggests the figure is actually 100 times higher than this and there are actually 2.4 million assaults on police every year.
Not everything gets recorded.
This video was just the tip of a very large iceberg.
Govt figures suggest there are 23,000 assaults on police every year in E&W.
That means a police officer is assaulted every 20 minutes (ish) on average in E&W.
Surprised ? Shocked ? Don't be.
The Police Federation survey suggests the figure is actually 100 times higher than this and there are actually 2.4 million assaults on police every year.
Not everything gets recorded.
This video was just the tip of a very large iceberg.
pavarotti1980 said:
No simply asking in your experience of being in what you described previously (danger v public = rovinghawk to the rescue)
What I actually said was that the ethos of the armed forces was not to run away & hide, leaving the public to face any danger.pavarotti1980 said:
what you would have done.
Could you please get it into your head that I see no point in speculating about what didn't happen?pavarotti1980 said:
Your comments of whether it is acceptable seem to be at odds with legislation and the comment from the CC.
There is plenty of history of CCs telling lies to exonerate policemen. Legislation involves necessity which is up for debate.pavarotti1980 said:
Unless you think it is acceptable to bite a police officer...
As a general rule no. I'm unsure as to why you would suggest I think it acceptable.edited for typo
Edited by Rovinghawk on Wednesday 22 August 13:49
Rovinghawk said:
What I actually said was that the ethos of the armed forces was not to run away & hide, leaving the public to face any danger.
And you stated you put yourself between the public and danger. Rovinghawk said:
There is plenty of history of CCs telling lies to exonerate policemen. Legislation involves [b]necessity[b\] which is up for debate..
Does it? All legislation?Please quote the relevant bits of Common Law, PACE, Criminal Law Act which state necessity around use of force
Rovinghawk said:
FRO & DYOR
FRO - NoDYOR - I dont need to i know the answer. none of them mentione necessity. i think you might be getting a little confused.
Rovinghawk said:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
No- best to go & hide until the trouble has gone. Pull a few motorists instead, maybe write a few reports.
As for Pavarotti's suggestion that I join the police
1) I'm above the age where most are retired & enjoying the pension
2) [b]I did a spell wearing a different uniform- one where we took the attitude that we had to get between the trouble & the public, not run away scared.[b\]
I await the next thread where you guys claim to be Ubermensch & I will quietly laugh at you to myself.
Now what was this trouble you mention above???No- best to go & hide until the trouble has gone. Pull a few motorists instead, maybe write a few reports.
As for Pavarotti's suggestion that I join the police
1) I'm above the age where most are retired & enjoying the pension
2) [b]I did a spell wearing a different uniform- one where we took the attitude that we had to get between the trouble & the public, not run away scared.[b\]
I await the next thread where you guys claim to be Ubermensch & I will quietly laugh at you to myself.
Rovinghawk said:
"A woman gives birth every 3 minutes in America. She should be caught & stopped."
Groucho Marx
And the inevitable irrelevant quote when you are floundering Groucho Marx
pavarotti1980 said:
FRO - No
A pity.pavarotti1980 said:
i know the answer. none of them mentione necessity. i think you might be getting a little confused.
I'm pretty certain that the law in this country only allows violence when necessary rather than on a whim. trust me.pavarotti1980 said:
Now what was this trouble you mention above???
Any generic trouble- take your pick.pavarotti1980 said:
Rovinghawk said:
"A woman gives birth every 3 minutes in America. She should be caught & stopped."
Groucho Marx
And the inevitable irrelevant quote when you are floundering Groucho Marx
Rovinghawk said:
I'm pretty certain that the law in this country only allows violence when necessary rather than on a whim. trust me.
You being certain is no guarantee of it being true though.Here is one example for you. treat it as a school day
Section 3 of the Criminal Law Act 1967 provides that:
(1) A person may use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances in the prevention of crime, or in effecting or assisting in the lawful arrest of offenders or suspected offenders or of persons unlawfully at large.
Rovinghawk said:
Any generic trouble- take your pick.
When you ran out of bacon at breakfast time? I bet the troops were annoyed thenRovinghawk said:
No, just amusing myself on a quiet day.
Shame you didnt use that quiet day to google relevant things which stop you looking daft Derek Smith said:
Is Jesus still crying?
Probably, if the idea still pervades that a pre-emptive attack 'just in case' is acceptable. I have this idea that there needs to be a clear & credible threat before violence is justified. You presumably feel otherwise.I accept that Harwood got away with it, as did de Menezes' killers but I still find it to be poor form.
(These are also cases where CCs have been proven to lie in support of their chaps, btw.)
pavarotti1980 said:
Rovinghawk said:
FRO & DYOR
FRO - NoDYOR - I dont need to i know the answer. none of them mentione necessity. i think you might be getting a little confused.
Rovinghawk said:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
No- best to go & hide until the trouble has gone. Pull a few motorists instead, maybe write a few reports.
As for Pavarotti's suggestion that I join the police
1) I'm above the age where most are retired & enjoying the pension
2) [b]I did a spell wearing a different uniform- one where we took the attitude that we had to get between the trouble & the public, not run away scared.[b\]
I await the next thread where you guys claim to be Ubermensch & I will quietly laugh at you to myself.
Now what was this trouble you mention above???No- best to go & hide until the trouble has gone. Pull a few motorists instead, maybe write a few reports.
As for Pavarotti's suggestion that I join the police
1) I'm above the age where most are retired & enjoying the pension
2) [b]I did a spell wearing a different uniform- one where we took the attitude that we had to get between the trouble & the public, not run away scared.[b\]
I await the next thread where you guys claim to be Ubermensch & I will quietly laugh at you to myself.
Rovinghawk said:
"A woman gives birth every 3 minutes in America. She should be caught & stopped."
Groucho Marx
And the inevitable irrelevant quote when you are floundering Groucho Marx
La Liga said:
How many bingo boxes has RH's simplistic, low-brow trolling ticked on this thread?
You forgot "I'm not anti-police, I'm anti-bad police. Please don't look at my posting history. It will not support my position."Public school education (obviously wasted).
I can write in Latin. It is meaningless but it is an attempt to show I am clever. Even if I'm not.
For balance, RH does appear to be making a Cobra replica.
Now don't get me wrong, he's still on my s
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