Traffic warden gets a kicking in Birmingham

Traffic warden gets a kicking in Birmingham

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tannhauser

1,773 posts

216 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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jcremonini said:
What those lads need is a good strong, god fearing, religion . One that teaches them right from wrong and keeps them on the straight and narrow.

Oh wait...
rofl Quite. Innit.

amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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rscott said:
Only 3rd? I can go back at least 8 before there's any foreign blood in there.. so I expect you to pull over should you ever be in front of me on the road.
Woe betide anybody who eschews queuing convention around you, eh? biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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tannhauser said:
jcremonini said:
What those lads need is a good strong, god fearing, religion . One that teaches them right from wrong and keeps them on the straight and narrow.

Oh wait...
rofl Quite. Innit.
Pretty sure that there is no religion that advocates or condones common street thuggery on innocent victims, so the 'oh wait' point about religion is a bit daft.

del mar

2,838 posts

200 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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rscott said:
del mar said:
I knew you would be able to find it.

It still makes no reference to being a contributor, and the NHS surcharge is modest. School costs me £3500 a term they don't appear to be factoring that in anywhere.

I am semi confident I am at least 3rd generation....
Only 3rd? I can go back at least 8 before there's any foreign blood in there.. so I expect you to pull over should you ever be in front of me on the road.
Bugger - based on this I will have to concede road position or research my family tree.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
TooMany2cvs said:
My ex-business partner was born in Germany. Would you call him a "first generation migrant", and extend your "second generation" strictures to his children?
tumbleweed
We're all waiting, y'know.

OK, let's try an easier one. Let's take an example of a woman in her 70s, born in India to a father born in what's now Pakistan, but who arrived here as a child and was educated here. "Migrant" to be refused everything, and children to be treated as second-class?

<drums fingers on desk impatiently>
C'mon, del mar... It's almost like you're trying to avoid answering these...

del mar

2,838 posts

200 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
del mar said:
TooMany2cvs said:
del mar said:
Surely immigration and Economic migration has to be of some fiscal benefit to the host country ?

To make these people pay or contribute to their health and educational costs can only be a good think for the host country
It's called "tax".
tax - you think are migrants actually pay more in tax than they take out of the system ??
So your beef is actually with people who "take out" more than they "pay in"? Now, does their (parents) place of birth make a big difference there?

TooMany2cvs said:
My ex-business partner was born in Germany. Would you call him a "first generation migrant", and extend your "second generation" strictures to his children?
tumbleweed
We're all waiting, y'know.

OK, let's try an easier one. Let's take an example of a woman in her 70s, born in India to a father born in what's now Pakistan, but who arrived here as a child and was educated here. "Migrant" to be refused everything, and children to be treated as second-class?

<drums fingers on desk impatiently>
Yes I believe your German business partner would be deemed 1st generation, and yes he should contribute for his children.

Yes your Indian / Pakistani lady is 1st generation and the same rules would apply to her children as your Herman friend.

That said I am prepared to consider relaxing the rules once the individual has been a net fiscal contributor for several years.

Or if the English spouse can demonstrate sufficient contribution to cover the costs of the migrant spouse and kids.

Ex pat medical schemes are not new nor are they that expensive.

I have had the opportunity to work in the us and middle / Far East.
They came with a medical plan, so I was no burden, the school option still exists in some territories.

Your German friend could easily have bought coverage for himself in Germany for a couple of grand. No problem.

All I want is for people coming to the UK not to be a drain on resources and make a financial contribution, not bothered by colour.

I find is astonishing that only I think this way and doing so makes me racist.

If you lot are so happy to be a **** load of tax to cover these people perhaps you would be happy paying my tax bill ?

Countdown

39,963 posts

197 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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del mar said:
I am semi confident I am at least 3rd generation....
...so not confident on the paternal side of your lineage, I’m guessing?

del mar

2,838 posts

200 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Countdown said:
del mar said:
I am semi confident I am at least 3rd generation....
...so not confident on the paternal side of your lineage, I’m guessing?
Would you believe that my mother’s maiden name was Haw.....



Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Ayahuasca said:
tannhauser said:
jcremonini said:
What those lads need is a good strong, god fearing, religion . One that teaches them right from wrong and keeps them on the straight and narrow.

Oh wait...
rofl Quite. Innit.
Pretty sure that there is no religion that advocates or condones common street thuggery on innocent victims, so the 'oh wait' point about religion is a bit daft.
Maybe, just maybe, these guys don’t actually adhere to any religion?

rscott

14,763 posts

192 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Of course, a lot of the immigrants who really annoying Del Mar come from India and Pakistan and have slightly unusual family trees.

Most will be able to go back a few generations and find relatives who were born in the days of the British Empire, when we ruled their countries. Surely then, they have a claim to be considerably more British than you'd like.


Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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rscott said:
Of course, a lot of the immigrants who really annoying Del Mar come from India and Pakistan and have slightly unusual family trees.

Most will be able to go back a few generations and find relatives who were born in the days of the British Empire, when we ruled their countries. Surely then, they have a claim to be considerably more British than you'd like.
It’s ok for us to rule over them. It’s not ok for them to migrate here and drain Del Boy’s tax contribution.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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del mar said:
Yes I believe your German business partner would be deemed 1st generation, and yes he should contribute for his children.
Does it make a difference if he was born there because his father was British military posted there?

del mar] said:
Yes your Indian / Pakistani lady is 1st generation and the same rules would apply to her children as your Herman friend.
Does it make a difference if Joanna Lumley's father was an officer in the British military, son of somebody born in Chelmsford who went out to work in the Empire?

How about Boris Johnson? Should his utterances be deprecated because he was born in the US and was a dual national until he got shot of the US nationality for tax reasons?

Do you have any particular views on the Royal Family...? After all, the Queen (herself hardly 100% British) married a Greek...

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
del mar said:
Yes I believe your German business partner would be deemed 1st generation, and yes he should contribute for his children.
Does it make a difference if he was born there because his father was British military posted there?

del mar] said:
Yes your Indian / Pakistani lady is 1st generation and the same rules would apply to her children as your Herman friend.
Does it make a difference if Joanna Lumley's father was an officer in the British military, son of somebody born in Chelmsford who went out to work in the Empire?

How about Boris Johnson? Should his utterances be deprecated because he was born in the US and was a dual national until he got shot of the US nationality for tax reasons?

Do you have any particular views on the Royal Family...? After all, the Queen (herself hardly 100% British) married a Greek...
What about the children and grandchildren of those who fought in wars for us?

rscott

14,763 posts

192 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
del mar said:
Yes I believe your German business partner would be deemed 1st generation, and yes he should contribute for his children.
Does it make a difference if he was born there because his father was British military posted there?

del mar] said:
Yes your Indian / Pakistani lady is 1st generation and the same rules would apply to her children as your Herman friend.
Does it make a difference if Joanna Lumley's father was an officer in the British military, son of somebody born in Chelmsford who went out to work in the Empire?

How about Boris Johnson? Should his utterances be deprecated because he was born in the US and was a dual national until he got shot of the US nationality for tax reasons?

Do you have any particular views on the Royal Family...? After all, the Queen (herself hardly 100% British) married a Greek...
Hang on - if it means we can shut Boris up, then I might have to agree with Del Mar.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Alpinestars said:
What about the children and grandchildren of those who fought in wars for us?
Well, La Lumley has been very passionate about the rights of ex-Gurkhas...

And let's not forget the son of a pair of Irish Immigrants, one Stephen-Tummy Rubbinson-Yaxley-Lennon. Or both Mrs Farridges, hence all the junior Farridges are mudbloods - sorry, mischlings.

Edited by TooMany2cvs on Monday 17th September 19:36

rscott

14,763 posts

192 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Alpinestars said:
What about the children and grandchildren of those who fought in wars for us?
Well, La Lumley has been very passionate about the rights of ex-Gurkhas...

And let's not forget the son of a pair of Irish Immigrants, one Stephen-Tummy Rubbinson-Yaxley-Lennon. Or both Mrs Farridges, hence all the junior Farridges are mudbloods - sorry, mischlings.

Edited by TooMany2cvs on Monday 17th September 19:36
Jayda Fransen, the pin up girl of Britain First, is also of Dutch origin. Her paternal grandparents are Dutch, so she's not that much more "British" than most of those she (and Del Mar) condemn so often.

del mar

2,838 posts

200 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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If those named above are a fiscal benefit, and or are In a position to support themselves with no recourse to nhs and education then I have no issue with that.


The royal family is a tricky one, I am not sure they are a benefit......



del mar

2,838 posts

200 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Alpinestars said:
It’s ok for us to rule over them. It’s not ok for them to migrate here and drain Del Boy’s tax contribution.
Correct.



del mar

2,838 posts

200 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Alpinestars said:
What about the children and grandchildren of those who fought in wars for us?
Because somebody fought on our side doesn’t mean we are financially repsonsible for his grandchildren.


Downward

3,607 posts

104 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Well that escalated quickly

Victim of a kicking but his Ex missus is a victim of him.

https://www.facebook.com/westmidlandspolice/photos...

“Unfortunately I didn't have the advantage of having a helmet on when the "victim" bashed me over the head while I was in a relationship with him... KARMA.
I have no sympathy for him

Hahaha &#128514;&#128055;"lucky to be alive"

I'm lucky to be alive after the physical and emotional abuse I received from him during our relationship, which I finally had the courage to leave last week.

Few wacks round the head and back/spine with a hair brush;
Spray in the face, eyes with air freshener;
Arm slammed in the door,
Black eye;
Pushed and shoved all over the flat;
Holes in doors from him trying to intimidate me;
Constant fat shaming And telling me I should stop eating
Locking me out the flat so I couldn't get ready for work

"Why don't you slit your wrist properly and die instead of attention seeking"
"None of your family want you or care about you"
Tried to kill myself twice and he said "why don't I do it properly for once"

Just a few of the things he did/said to me and I didn't have a helmet to protect me...

I'm sorry for the unpopular opinion but he DESERVED IT!”