Traffic warden gets a kicking in Birmingham
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TooMany2cvs said:
... about 1830 or so, I guess, when the last of the anti-Catholic laws were repealed, allowing a bit more religious freedom.
not quite the last, IIRC the monarch is still not allowed to be Catholic (though Hindu/Buddist/Muslim/etc is fine).jamoor said:
To be fair white people were responsible for the slave trade....
errrm not quite, the slave trade has been around as long as there have been people (still practised by some)rscott said:
One more error. Yes, Muslims are overrepresented in prison, but he conveniently ignores the fact that Christians are even more overrepresented.
Source? That doesn't seem to be the case -
From here
It seems they now group Anglican/Roman Catholic into just 'Christian'. In 2010, Roman Catholics did seem to be over-represented.
amusingduck said:
rscott said:
One more error. Yes, Muslims are overrepresented in prison, but he conveniently ignores the fact that Christians are even more overrepresented.
Source? That doesn't seem to be the case -From here
It seems they now group Anglican/Roman Catholic into just 'Christian'. In 2010, Roman Catholics did seem to be over-represented.
Some put it as low as 40%.
citizensm1th said:
I wonder who he defines as liberal, i doubt there are many of them on PH.
That's just what makes me laugh at the likes of colin-p. They think anyone who does not share their world view is a liberal, and use it as a term of abuse. I know plenty of Conservatives, party members and activists, councillors and an MP who definitely do not share his world view, and certainly not my centre left politics, but, hey, "liberals".....
Labradorofperception said:
They think anyone who does not share their world view is a liberal, and use it as a term of abuse.
What's abusive about "liberal"?https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/liber...
OED said:
Willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
- Favourable to or respectful of individual rights and freedoms.
- (in a political context) favouring individual liberty, free trade, and moderate political and social reform.
How does anybody manage to work that into an insult...? Seems like it can only be a compliment...- Favourable to or respectful of individual rights and freedoms.
- (in a political context) favouring individual liberty, free trade, and moderate political and social reform.
TooMany2cvs said:
How does anybody manage to work that into an insult...? Seems like it can only be a compliment...
I suspect most people would view themselves as liberal, it's only the alt-right and hangers on that see it as some sort of weakness and thus a term of abuse.They utter it like the dark characters in a Roald Dahl book, the ones that live in the shadows, their red beady eyes peering out and screeching "liberal" at the people who live up top, in the sunshine.
colin_p said:
Yes, but if only it stopped at a bit of street fighting...
Raping our school children en mass
Blowing our children up at pop concerts
Blowing us up on trains
Blowing us up on buses
Cutting the heads off our soldiers in broad daylight
Running us over and then getting out and going on a stab-fest.
And all the other low(er) level criminality that they seem to get away with because they are, and know they are, largely untouchable because everyone is scared wittless of being called a racist.
Take your pick, and the above are not just confined to the UK, but anywhere in the West that has been suitably enriched.
White working class scum, come nowhere close.
Here’s the latest example of exactly what you’ve highlighted. Prescience. Raping our school children en mass
Blowing our children up at pop concerts
Blowing us up on trains
Blowing us up on buses
Cutting the heads off our soldiers in broad daylight
Running us over and then getting out and going on a stab-fest.
And all the other low(er) level criminality that they seem to get away with because they are, and know they are, largely untouchable because everyone is scared wittless of being called a racist.
Take your pick, and the above are not just confined to the UK, but anywhere in the West that has been suitably enriched.
White working class scum, come nowhere close.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co....
Now, how about your definition of immigrants?
Alpinestars said:
Here’s the latest example of exactly what you’ve highlighted. Prescience.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co....
Now, how about your definition of immigrants?
They’re just so much better at it than the rest of us, nobody died !https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co....
Now, how about your definition of immigrants?
The car was damaged by Muslims before the driver accidentally lost control and collided with 3 people.
T0MMY said:
I'm reading that report now and it seems to suggest that while non-eu migrants were a net cost 1995-2001 they're a lower net cost than native brits. It also seems to suggest that migrants entering the country since 2001 are a net gain. The overall conclusion of the report seems to be that the fiscal impact of immigration both from the EU and from outside has been positive? Just scanning it so correct me if I'm wrong.
I don’t believe it does suggest that, there is a modest benefit from the Eu but the overall cost from non eu is huge.Edited by T0MMY on Tuesday 18th September 20:51
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/34...
The UK population figures are skewed by our old population - health h and pension. The migrant population has not reached the same percentage of elderly yet, unless we have been importing them !!
Edited by del mar on Wednesday 19th September 10:01
rscott said:
amusingduck said:
rscott said:
One more error. Yes, Muslims are overrepresented in prison, but he conveniently ignores the fact that Christians are even more overrepresented.
Source? That doesn't seem to be the case -From here
It seems they now group Anglican/Roman Catholic into just 'Christian'. In 2010, Roman Catholics did seem to be over-represented.
Some put it as low as 40%.
So Muslims are over represented. No matter which source you use they are always over represented.
del mar said:
Alpinestars said:
Here’s the latest example of exactly what you’ve highlighted. Prescience.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co....
Now, how about your definition of immigrants?
They’re just so much better at it than the rest of us, nobody died !https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co....
Now, how about your definition of immigrants?
The car was damaged by Muslims before the driver accidentally lost control and collided with 3 people.
irocfan said:
TooMany2cvs said:
... about 1830 or so, I guess, when the last of the anti-Catholic laws were repealed, allowing a bit more religious freedom.
not quite the last, IIRC the monarch is still not allowed to be Catholic (though Hindu/Buddist/Muslim/etc is fine).jamoor said:
To be fair white people were responsible for the slave trade....
errrm not quite, the slave trade has been around as long as there have been people (still practised by some)White people were responsible for the displacement of millions of Africans from their Homelands to Northern America, debatably their descendants are still paying the price.
Labradorofperception said:
citizensm1th said:
I wonder who he defines as liberal, i doubt there are many of them on PH.
That's just what makes me laugh at the likes of colin-p. They think anyone who does not share their world view is a liberal, and use it as a term of abuse. I know plenty of Conservatives, party members and activists, councillors and an MP who definitely do not share his world view, and certainly not my centre left politics, but, hey, "liberals".....
I prefer to use the term "Regressive progressive(s)". And yes that is a contradiction of itself, just like progressive thought and politics.
As for liberalism, traditional liberalism is a nobel place to be politically. The shame is that it has been massively hi-jacked by regressive proggos who are anything but liberal.
A regressive proggo would break up a fight between a normal child and the playground bully and give the bully the kids sweets anyway and then argue ad infinitum that it was the right thing to do and the normal kid didn't want or deserve his sweets.
tecolin_p said:
I prefer to use the term "Regressive progressive(s)". And yes that is a contradiction of itself, just like progressive thought and politics.
A regressive proggo would break up a fight between a normal child and the playground bully and give the bully the kids sweets anyway and then argue ad infinitum that it was the right thing to do and the normal kid didn't want or deserve his sweets.
I really am starting to think that you're actually a very subtle troll.A regressive proggo would break up a fight between a normal child and the playground bully and give the bully the kids sweets anyway and then argue ad infinitum that it was the right thing to do and the normal kid didn't want or deserve his sweets.
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